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livvywatermonkey
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posted April 02, 2021 07:25 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for livvywatermonkey     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hello friends,

I have gotten feedback on this connection before -


Stoika spoke about how there could be an unfulfilled dimension to this relationship & he could expect me to understand him intuitively, without words, & there could be issues with our communication ... him not being as confident as he can easily portray, our reverse nodal conjunction making this relationship feel fated, & my Neptune square his Saturn making me feel quite shy & inhibited around him

Todd highlighted the Mars/Mercury/Neptune conjunction square North Node-Jupiter conjunction, with Neptune/Mars possibly pointing to passive aggression & Neptune/Jupiter, to deception ... Saturn conjunct Sun-Venus & Uranus-Venus midpoint, possibly revealing underlying emotional tension

I was wondering how you would interpret composite Mercury/Mars/Jupiter conjunct his South Node & my North Node? Also grateful for any other insights from anyone who wants to take a look

I am drawn to intense & sometimes uncomfortable connections, connections that will grow & challenge me, but I also need to establish a level of safety, comfort & familiarity within that, & I don’t know if or how we will reach that stage - there is a sense of spiritual or otherworldly familiarity, but not of me at ease in my own body - I rather feel overstimulated & thus shut down/repress my fears of being humiliated for wanting something he may not desire in return (I know this is coming from my own triggers, but I am not triggered so viscerally by anyone else in the same way, so it becomes hard to separate from my experience of him as a person, he becomes associated in my mind with those triggers)

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posted April 03, 2021 12:28 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Randall     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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posted April 10, 2021 12:02 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Randall     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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posted April 12, 2021 02:50 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for sashavittoria     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hey livvy, I'm sorry it took me so long! I want to preface this by saying I am nowhere near Todd and Stoika's level but maybe I will just notice different things...

One is the DW Nessus aspects. Your Chiron on his Nessus, his Pluto on your Nessus with his Saturn nearby. It definitely looks like there was serious abuse between you in a past life.

His Jupiter trine your Sun/moon/IC/Juno(?) is such a wonderful aspect! He must really accept you for who you are. And then your Jupiters are sextile, how nice.

Your Neptune/Uranus near his moon must make him hard to read emotionally, no? Must be frustrating for a double Pisces! He has a lot to teach you on an emotional level. Pay attention to how he rationalizes and interprets his feelings. (My SN is in Cancer too, I think we are about the same age with the Neptune/Uranus conjunction! I have had a few people in my life with a Cap moon and their emotional maturity, especially in handling relationships and other people, has always been so impressive and illuminating for me. One in particular teaches me so much... This is assuming it is a mature Cap moon, but the immature ones can be helpful for what not to do!)

As far as your composite question about Mercury/Mars/Neptune... Let's first consider that conjunction. It's in the 12th house of all things hidden. Lots of confusion and just difficulty reading one another - HOWEVER, I would say that if you can find a way to access them then they can be very illuminating and deepen the relationship far beyond the average experience. With Sag on the 12th house cusp, optimism and teaching/learning (I mean from one another) may be difficult to access or at best subconscious. "There may be karmic issues with freedom or beliefs that need to be addressed, and preachiness or some arrogance may need to be let go of." The conjunction of these three planets can go either way... you can be open and communicative (Mercury) about normally hidden/secret and subconscious things, and be tremendously compassionate and understanding about what you reveal (Neptune). On the other hand, you may be driven (Mars) by subconscious motives and problems that are better worked through separately before coming together, and if there's not enough grounding (Cap) trust there you may end up keeping rather than sharing secrets (Mercury). Considering that these planets are all also in Capricorn but placed in the 12th house, I would guess that some authoritarianism or control issues, or perhaps more practical ways of communicating and relating, might create an obstacle to bonding physically, intellectually, and/or spiritually. My guess would be that you might get stuck communicating or acting on practical necessities of life without quite getting to the deeper, more psychological and spiritual topics that will really help you bond and understand one another.

In the composite, this conjunction is squared by Jupiter/North Node conjunction, magnifying any related benefits or issues (Jupiter) while making them inhibiting to the relationship's growth (NN). It is sextiled by Pluto in Scorpio, which seems to intensify it, but it should be beneficial since Pluto helps uncover some of those subconscious, buried things. Maybe leaning into Scorpio/10th house activities could help reveal some of the hidden 12th house topics?

Short version - I think you'll have to work really hard together and individually to become aware of and communicate about hidden or subconscious things impacting the relationship. The wonderful thing is that you have all the potential to do this and probably don't need to worry so much if you'll accept one another with compassion and understanding - that's a given with Neptune there. Plus, both of you seem to have pretty "selfless" placements natally.

Now let's consider the impact on your nodes...

I would think most of the subconscious issues impacting the relationship are coming from him, from his past - his childhood or past lives or family history. Helping him talk about and cope with subconscious burdens from his past is something you're likely able to do and help him work through. (Especially being such a watery, empathetic person!)

For you, with the conjunction falling on your North Node, helping him work through this and also working on how your own subconscious patterns affect the relationship, and essentially, taking responsibility (so Capricorn!) for your psychological baggage and any projections will help you grow enormously as a person. (With the same NN, I've found taking responsibility for my emotions and these exact things in relationships has been enormously important to the successes of both my relationships and myself as an individual.)

In my experience, reversed nodes are a wonderful thing. You can really help one another grow into more mature individuals if you look for the lessons and appreciate what one another has mastered. Again, pay attention to his moon (the ruler of your SN) in Cap (the sign of your NN). That's significant.

I hope this is helpful! Please let me know what, if anything, resonates and what doesn't.

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posted April 12, 2021 02:55 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for sashavittoria     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
P.S. Looking again and considering that the square from Jupiter/NN is in the 9th house, I wonder if intellectualizing could actually inhibit the kind of subconscious self-awareness the relationship needs? With him being Libra/Cap, and his Mercury in Libra too, I would think he intellectualizes and represses his emotions a bit too much and may therefore be very unaware of some things... But again it's something you can help him work through and through doing so, learn a lot yourself.

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posted April 12, 2021 03:05 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for sashavittoria     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I also really identify with what you said:

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there is a sense of spiritual or otherworldly familiarity

I had a ton of 12th house overlays with someone once and it was the most intense yet spiritual and actually nonsexual love I have ever even heard of... There is an innate "knowing" without knowing, and I'm telling you, trust it.

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but not of me at ease in my own body - I rather feel overstimulated & thus shut down/repress my fears of being humiliated for wanting something he may not desire in return (I know this is coming from my own triggers)

I think this also has to do with SN in Cancer, particularly yours being in the 7th house, you have a lot of karma to work through in terms of this hiding due to fear, especially with the discomfort of being embodied (which is what earth sign North Nodes largely deal with). I really identify with this and have found it important to move past the fear by accepting it. (My SN is in 12th house so I somewhat understand Pisces people as well - always such incredible friends!) What's helped me most is to realize that confidence is not the absence of self-doubt, but the acceptance of self-doubt and taking action anyway - just as courage is not the absence of fear, but accepting that fear is there and taking action anyway. In general I wonder if earth sign North Nodes are also about taking action in the world, in a pragmatic way, in spite of how we may feel about things. The irony, of course, is that courage and confidence come through experience gained by participating in the world - courage and confidence do not precede participation, but proceed from it. If that makes sense. lol

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posted April 12, 2021 07:47 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for livvywatermonkey     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hi sashavittoria, this makes a lot of sense & does resonate. Thank you for taking the time <3

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