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aj92
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posted April 10, 2021 02:32 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for aj92     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
does this work?
http://ibb.co/RHYmtCq http://ibb.co/cCYNMfY

Hi, this is the chart of a guy I am trying to make it work with. It's been in a halt for a year. Not sure if there's gonna be any progress. Any tips? How best to approach this?

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livvywatermonkey
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posted April 10, 2021 07:46 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for livvywatermonkey     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Links not available :) could you upload to https://imgbb.com/ or another similar website, then post the links without the “s” in “https” ?

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posted April 10, 2021 09:05 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for aj92     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Thanks! Does this work?

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Links not available could you upload to https://imgbb.com/ or another similar website, then post the links without the “s” in “https” ?

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posted April 11, 2021 12:45 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for livvywatermonkey     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Yes that works! It would be helpful if you could create a synastry chart here http://astro-charts.com/tools/new/synastry/ & upload it in the same way

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posted April 11, 2021 06:17 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for aj92     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Sure! Here it is! http://ibb.co/nCjQtjD

Thank you!

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Originally posted by livvywatermonkey:
Yes that works! It would be helpful if you could create a synastry chart here http://astro-charts.com/tools/new/synastry/ & upload it in the same way

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posted April 11, 2021 08:31 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for livvywatermonkey     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hi aj92, awesome that’s really helpful

I’m guessing you are the Saggitarius & he Leo? Working on this assumption, here are things I notice ...

If you input your data here, http://astrowin.org/scripts/prog_synastry_chart.php I think you will find these aspects come up for this time, from 2020 (it also gives interpretations):

Progressed Venus-progressed Mars square, becoming exact in 2023 (this can be an awkward energy as your desires & actions may be “out of sync” with each other

Progressed Venus-progressed Venus opposition (this can mean there is admiration or appreciation, but the spark of energy to get things moving in/into a relationship may be lacking)

I’m looking at your progressed charts via this page http://horoscopes.astro-seek.com/calculate-progressed-synastry-chart/ & notice these aspects:

your progressed South Node conjunct his Moon
your progressed Sun, Uranus & Neptune conjunct his Saturn

From these aspects, I am thinking he may feel very familiar to you, like you may feel you know intuitively how he can be nurtured ...

& he may feel a sense of responsibility towards you, but also find it difficult to “travel with you on higher planes”, he may feel outmatched by you on an intuitive level, & so retreat, or perhaps treat your insights as somehow “lesser than” or not practical enough

So, from all these things, I would say it could seem difficult for you two to establish & sustain a connection (of whatever kind) on a mutual level. Does this resonate?

I don’t know if this applies to you, but I have fallen in love with people because of a sense of being known by them, or of me knowing them innately, this sense of familiarity & innate connection or understanding, but now I think I need to be careful of putting them on a pedestal, & not valuing myself, & this has been the lesson of these kinds of connections for me :)

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posted April 11, 2021 09:18 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for aj92     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Thanks very much, livvywatermonkey!

Yes, I am the Sagittarius and he is the Leo.

You are right about how he feels very familiar to me. We just know each other intuitively and he always shows up in my dream state. I just instinctively care for him and want to nurture him and he does feel responsible towards me.

Can you elaborate on the part about "difficult to travel with you on higher planes"?

He is definitely a very logical person and doesn't really get feelings or emotions, but we were smitten with each other the moment we met.

Yes, it has been difficult to establish and sustain this connection. We dated for three months and I ended up having to move, and we broke up because it had to be long-distance. However, we kept in touch over the year and he might end up moving to where I am now and was thinking of reconnecting if that happens. But I am really scared if it's gonna last long term.

I understand. I have gone through those cycles. Are you saying that's not a good enough reason to fall in love? We are not putting each other on a pedestal right now, but trying to have an honest conversation and figure out if this could work long term.

Do you think it's possible to maintain a friendship at least?

The things you have said resonates a lot. Thanks very much!

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Originally posted by livvywatermonkey:
Hi aj92, awesome that’s really helpful

I’m guessing you are the Saggitarius & he Leo? Working on this assumption, here are things I notice ...

If you input your data here, http://astrowin.org/scripts/prog_synastry_chart.php I think you will find these aspects come up for this time, from 2020 (it also gives interpretations):

Progressed Venus-progressed Mars square, becoming exact in 2023 (this can be an awkward energy as your desires & actions may be “out of sync” with each other

Progressed Venus-progressed Venus opposition (this can mean there is admiration or appreciation, but the spark of energy to get things moving in/into a relationship may be lacking)

I’m looking at your progressed charts via this page http://horoscopes.astro-seek.com/calculate-progressed-synastry-chart/ & notice these aspects:

your progressed South Node conjunct his Moon
your progressed Sun, Uranus & Neptune conjunct his Saturn

From these aspects, I am thinking he may feel very familiar to you, like you may feel you know intuitively how he can be nurtured ...

& he may feel a sense of responsibility towards you, but also find it difficult to “travel with you on higher planes”, he may feel outmatched by you on an intuitive level, & so retreat, or perhaps treat your insights as somehow “lesser than” or not practical enough

So, from all these things, I would say it could seem difficult for you two to establish & sustain a connection (of whatever kind) on a mutual level. Does this resonate?

I don’t know if this applies to you, but I have fallen in love with people because of a sense of being known by them, or of me knowing them innately, this sense of familiarity & innate connection or understanding, but now I think I need to be careful of putting them on a pedestal, & not valuing myself, & this has been the lesson of these kinds of connections for me


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posted April 11, 2021 09:34 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for aj92     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Just wanted to add another note that I met him when Saturn was transiting my venus when the pandemic just started. And then we separated again when Saturn went back into Capricorn. We started talking about reconnecting when Saturn went back into Aquarius again transiting my venus.

Also, I was born close to a total lunar eclipse and he was born close to a partial lunar eclipse I think. I wonder if the eclipse energy connects us.

I tried my best to keep away from him for a year. The more I tried to keep away, the more he showed up in my dreams and my mind wouldn't shut up. The dreams stopped the moment I decided to go see him and give this another shot. But I am not convinced if this is gonna work long term. I was advised. the possibility of progress is really low with my venus and Saturn conjunct his north node and the universe has this blocked for some reason.

But I would like to have him in my life.

Just found this whole thing interesting.

And he is the first guy with whom I have set intentions and boundaries clearly.

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posted April 12, 2021 05:33 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for livvywatermonkey     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
That sounds really healthy aj92 :) I don’t see any reason why you shouldn’t remain in each other’s lives if you both want to, regardless of whatever happens romantically, it sounds like you both care for each other & have healthy communication :D

I think I saw your progressed Mercury conjunct his progressed Uranus in your progressed synastry, & he is a Leo, so even if he is more of a “structured” person it sounds like he probably relates well to your creative side, I think I was projecting some of my own experience into that aspect of his progressed Saturn conjunct your progressed Sun, & imagining he might try & contain or stifle your intuitive side ... it sounds like maybe it could manifest more as him being a grounding influence to you?

I don’t see astrology as deterministic, but can help us make better chances through hopefully increasing understanding ... I personally would not say that your relationship is blocked because of your Venus & Saturn near his North Node, I believe nodal aspects could manifest more strongly within 2 degrees, though not sure

I think you’re at least one step ahead of me relationship wise in terms of setting healthy boundaries & communicating clearly :), me putting others on a pedestal makes me shut down & not see my own boundaries or experience as valid, but thankfully I haven’t gotten into a relationship in that state, but I think it can just open us up to mistreatment when we do get into a relationship in that state, if that makes sense?

In your natal synastry, his Moon is on cusp of Aries & Taurus, and your Venus on cusp of Capricorn & Aquarius - I wonder if there is not enough harmony or “safety” indicated for your natal Moons, which could be interpreted as what you need to feel safe & secure in your relationship with each other, but this could also depend on how comfortable you are with change & working through discomfort through communicating, & it seems like your typically “outgoing”, fire sign Suns in Saggitarius & Leo, plus his Mercury trine your Neptune & your Mercury trine his Venus could help there with understanding & compassion/making room for one another’s experience or insecurities ...

Hope this helps, & I’m happy to keep the conversation going!

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posted April 17, 2021 11:37 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for aj92     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Thanks livvywatermonkey!

Well, we are working on our communication skills right now. It's been really hard.

He is definitely very logical. I'm glad you picked up on that. He is indeed rather a prescriptive and logical person as compared to intuitive or emotional. We are like the exact opposite of each other. I don't even know how we ended up liking each other. It's a mystery.

That's interesting that you had this experience with relationships. That's exactly how I was until I went through a traumatic heartbreak.

And you are right about the moon part! He does make me feel insecure sometimes. I think this is a relationship that could help both of us grow tremendously, but it requires him to be open to it too. We might end up talking towards the end of May and see if we want to take it further. Fingers crossed!

Also, how does his moon being on the cus of Aries and Taurus, and my venus on the cusp of Capricorn and Aquarius work?


What's the difference between looking at natal synastry vs progressed charts? I am curious to know what your experience has been.

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aj92
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posted April 17, 2021 11:41 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for aj92     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Also, just as a general question - when looking at synastries, I have noticed that I might have great synastry with someone, but it doesn't really translate in real life.

What do you think about natal synastry? What according to you causes two people to come together?

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posted April 18, 2021 08:17 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for livvywatermonkey     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hi aj92,

The Moons-Venus aspect I described that way because though they are in square aspect, I didn’t want to express it in a way that sounded fatalistic or deterministic to the relationship :)

if we were all acting 100% unconsciously, maybe astrology could be interpreted only in one way, all the time, but I do not believe that is true, we do have a choice to act in accordance with our understanding of situations, & our understandings can be more or less reflective of what is really going on, so this means the same aspect could play out many different ways, healthy or unhealthy, productive or unproductive <3

I think supplementing natal with progressed synastry can give more of a 3D or time sensitive perspective on what is going on for people in relationship

I think people are looking for different things in relationship, in general & at different times, & this should reflect in their natal or progressed astrology, so perhaps what brings one couple together could drive another apart ...

In general though I think what binds people together in sustainable, healthy, close relationship, is when you voluntarily fulfil compatible needs in one another.

For example, I may want to build attraction or intimacy slowly with a caring & protective partner, but it’s unlikely I’ll stick together with someone unless the need I fulfil in them is compatible with my need. If the main need they bring is companionship & looking for a long term partner, even if they may want sex straightaway, it could work, but if the main need they consciously bring is quick intimacy, we simply won’t “stick”, because I cannot fulfil their need & they cannot fulfil mine :) neither is better or worse but it’s a matter of whether your needs & desire to fulfil one another’s needs “gel” with each other, hope this makes sense

That is where you can take a look at natal and/or progressed synastry to better make sense of what each person needs in relationship/is looking for, whether those needs are compatible, & if both people could desire/be able to to fulfil that need in one another :)

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posted April 25, 2021 07:03 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for aj92     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Thank you, livvywatermonkey.

Also, can you explain the progressed mars squaring venus aspect? I thought we had a venus conjunct mars natal aspect.

Also, won't aspects between progressions change all the time in that case? How do you then determine which one is significant or not?

I appreciate your time and for explaining things to me. I am just a novice to astrology and has a lot of questions. haha

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