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Laylay
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posted May 06, 2021 06:57 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Laylay     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
This will be the last time I ever post on this relationship.

We haven't been together long, about 9 months now, but what a 9 months its been. I feel like we've had many lifetimes within this relationship.
It started off whirlwind before derailing shortly after, but we still stuck it out despite up and downs in the relationship.. we spent quite some time in a "grey area" before getting back together.
When we're together, we're not sure our relationship will work and doubts constantly crop up. When we're not together we start to panic and get back with each other. Kind of a "can't live with you cant live without you" kind of situation we laugh at often.
Very argumentative.. arguments are due to misunderstanding each other which is very clear in our synastry and composite. Theres some personality mismatch as well which I struggle to tolerate but learning to deal with.
We have some notable connections.. venus/mars DW, moon/mars DW, mars/mars conj, moon/moon conj, venus/venus opp.. some outer aspects too but not all that favourable..Composite is a nightmare but we have a nice little love stellium on the IC.. square to Mars in 1st * cries *

I know astrology is a guide, not law.. but cant get Liz Greenes reading out of my head. She said one of the biggest issues is that he'll probably cheat, because I activate some sort of warrior/hero archetype in him.
Thats really been causing problems for me in my head as he's of very open nature.. loves people, loves women, has ALOT of female friends and while theres nothing wrong with that it's like its activated my jealous nature, and now I get paranoid.

I have a daughter, she is 2 years old so I overthink things because it's not just a relationship with me but a relationship with her too.

I know we have free will, and it's up to me/us to decide how we work with this energy but is anyone's honest opinion that we can make it as a couple?

Thanks everyone who has commented on my previous posts about him / us before- I really appreciate it, any any comments to this thread as well.

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Stoika7
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posted May 06, 2021 04:34 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Stoika7     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hi, I had replied to you here: http://www.linda-goodman.com/ubb/Forum35/HTML/011023.html

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LunaIscariot
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posted May 06, 2021 05:35 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for LunaIscariot     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hey!

First off, I think he’s quite loyal and gets very emotionally attached in relationships which will activate the loyalty of his Taurus moon. He’s a guy who really values emotional connection/intimacy and commitment in his relationships. So he’s less likely to cheat than most men.
He has a Taurus moon in the 7th house (Taurus DSC), his 7th ruler Venus is in Cancer, plus Mars in Capricorn.
I wouldn’t worry too much about him being a hookup, one night stand, casual sex type guy. He had good control of his sexuality/desires and his emotions, so even if he was attracted to someone I highly doubt he would actually act on it. He’s not an impulsive guy, and just physical attraction/lust doesn’t do it for him. This guy has a lot of depth and seeks deep emotional connection, the kind that requires him to get to know someone first. So if he was going to cheat, it would be with someone from his past or that he already knows or has known for awhile, I can guarantee that. So hopefully that helps set your mind and fears at ease a bit
I see what you mean tho, he does have that flirty/magnetic/sexual magnetism thing going on with his scorpio rising conjunct Pluto and Venus-mars opposition, that’s why people and women are so drawn to him.
But ok now to the actual charts:

I love the tight moon conjunct moon in his 7th house.
This is a great compatibility aspect, one of the best and definitely is a good long-term success indicator. You two understand each other well, have a lot in common and basically need the same things, so it makes being together and especially spending a lot of time and sharing a living space easier.
The is further emphasized by your sun/mercury conjunct his IC, plus mercury and Venus in your 4th house too. I think you two are very comfortable and feel very at home and cozy with each other. Lots of intimacy, comfort and emotional attachment is shown.
You also have DW Venus-mars hard aspects, so lots of chemistry and sexual attraction/passion too.

The issue is actually that I think he’s not your type or the person you actually want long-term or as an ideal partner. For you there’s definitely something missing. I see why you say you don’t like some personality traits in him, it’s because he’s not what you really want or need in a partner. Your 7th house is either Virgo or Libra depending how exact your TOB is. But either way, he doesn’t match those energies/traits. A bit of its libra because your 7th ruler is Venus in cappy conjunct his Asc ruler mars in cappy, but it’s still a bit weak...
he also doesn’t match your 5th house either.
I’m assuming he pursed you first?

I’m gonna be honest, I don’t see a marriage or long term lasting connection just because you both don’t match each other’s love houses strong enough, mainly on your side. It’s a bit better on his side, but still actually not that great.
I think once the initial passion of the Venus-mars wears off, you’ll lose the attraction that it was generating because personality wise, he’s not what you’re into.
Especially if you really do have a libra DSC, you want a guy who can compromise, who is balanced, fair, easy-going, friendly, good social skills etc. and this guy is VERY stubborn!!!! He’s not compromising lol he’s also more reserved/shy/awkward, uncomfortable around most people (lacks the social ease of libra) and can be very petty, spiteful, vengeful, the opposite of libra fairness. He can also be quite intense and you might not like that... you prefer someone more detached and easy going.
If it’s Virgo DSC, you want someone extremely intelligent, logical, pragmatic and down to earth. An intellectual through and through with the ruler in Aquarius/11th house to boot.,Someone not emotional at all, who is more head over heart and keeps their cool and is rational and maybe a bit quirky or rebellious too who you have a strong friendship and shared values with.

Again, the issue I’m seeing is that he’s not either of those archetypes.
He also wants someone very nurturing, motherly, affectionate, sensitive, emotional. I think you’re the more cool, calm, collected type. So he might not like that either. He might think you’re too cold or detached, lacking the emotional depth and sensitivity he’s seeking.

The composite of course as you mentioned has the afflicted love stellium with Mars beating it up...
arguments, conflict, annoyance, irritation is a given with hard mars aspects.
I don’t think he’s much of a talker....is that an issue for you two? I think his secretiveness, and lack of open communication is probably a big reason for the misunderstandings, but he’s not good with words I don’t think, that’s why, I don’t think it’s purposeful.
Mercury in cancer in the 8th lol...

You two also have very different love styles (Venus opp Venus). So maybe not feeling loved by the other is an issue too. You express your love differently, and in ways that the other might not always realize or appreciate. This can cause resentment if not dealt with, so keep it in mind. Make sure you’re meeting each other’s romantic needs and doing things in a way the other person feels loved, even if you have to compromise.


The Neptune squares let’s me know you might not be seeing this guy or the relationship clearly for what it really is, so don’t get this romantic idea or project fantasies or too high expectations on each other etc.,you might end up being very disappointed/disillusioned....

And lastly, I gotta say it.

With composite stellium in Aries, mars square it in the 1st, DW mars/Venus in synastry, plus you’re both Taurus moons...
Make sure this relationship isn’t based mainly on sex/the physical. Make sure there’s also a good mental, emotional and spiritual connection.
Ask yourself, if he got horrifically burned in a fire and didn’t look the same or could perform sexually the same anymore, would you still love him/want to be with him? If yes, then that’s a good sign and you guys COULD work on it and see where it goes.

But honestly I don’t think you like him as a person that much lol, because we like our 7th house, whether it’s as lovers or friends. It’s the people we get along with best, and just plain like, so it’s hard to have a lasting connection with someone who isn’t that. Something will always feels like it’s missing/lacking.

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Laylay
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posted May 06, 2021 11:45 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Laylay     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Stoika7:
Hi, I had replied to you here: http://www.linda-goodman.com/ubb/Forum35/HTML/011023.html

I just read this thankyou !
Looks like commitment and trust will be challenging- thanks for replying

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hypatia238
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posted May 07, 2021 12:53 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for hypatia238     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
The composite is not a nightmare, the ruler of the DC is the moon and falls in the 4th house and trines Juno conjunct Mars on the AC, note: Mars is the ruler of the IC.

So you two have the marriage asteroid Juno conjunct the IC ruler Mars on an angle (the AC) trine DC ruler Moon in the 4th house. That is promising.

This explains why you guys got involved in a committed relationship and shows potential for this to last but I cant say with certainty it will bc I can't guarantee that for anyone. Your synastry is lovely too. I can say the potential is there for this to last.

The Northnode in the 2H ruled by neptune conjunct saturn in the 12th house I think may be why you feel insecure in the relationship, the Northnode is the compass of the relationship and the ruler of it is neptune in the 12th conjunct saturn. Neptune conjunct saturn in the 12th may bring paranoia and subconscious fears to the surface or may make you feel like the relationship is a dream and not truly real and you are waiting to wake up from it.

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Laylay
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posted May 07, 2021 01:43 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Laylay     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Thankyou so much for your detailed reply, I really needed it!
You were almost spot on with everything and I definitely am Libra DSC my TOB is correct. I value an equal partnership more than anything.

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The issue is actually that I think he’s not your type or the person you actually want long-term or as an ideal partner. For you there’s definitely something missing.
I’m assuming he pursed you first?

You are 110% - I never really thought about it so simply like this.. as much as I love him, I just dont like most of his personality and that in itself is a red flag.
We met online and I messaged him first and organized the first meet- he originally pursued me more then then the tables turned and I've been pursuing him more since.

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He’s not compromising lol he’s also more reserved/shy/awkward, uncomfortable around most people (lacks the social ease of libra) and can be very petty, spiteful, vengeful, the opposite of libra fairness. He can also be quite intense and you might not like that... you prefer someone more detached and easy going.

I definitely like intense people so he ticks that box, but you are correct about him being petty and spiteful/revengeful which I really hate. One thing though is that he doesnt lack social skills.. in fact he he is the biggest social butterfly I have ever met. He is charismatic and definitely knows how to talk to people. We make new friends everywhere we go because of his social abilities which I actually admire.


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I don’t think he’s much of a talker....is that an issue for you two?

This is an interesting one actually because it is the exact opposite- He TALKS NON STOP and some of the arguments stem from me not being able to get a word in because he dominates every conversation. Drives me nuts and he always apologises for talking alot, not just with me but with other people. Yap yap yaps haha


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The Neptune squares let’s me know you might not be seeing this guy or the relationship clearly for what it really is, so don’t get this romantic idea or project fantasies or too high expectations on each other etc.,you might end up being very disappointed/disillusioned....

Yes yes and yes. Neptune is a personal issue for me. I have it conjunct venus in natal. We have his venus opp my neptune in synastry and obviously the venus/nep square in composite. When we met I had transit Neptune sextile natal venus - this transit is still in effect. He also had transit neptune trine natal venus when we met however this transit for him finished a few months ago.
I know I might have too high an expectation in romance and that the Disney style love i so desperately want is not realistic so I am trying to work on that.

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Make sure this relationship isn’t based mainly on sex/the physical. Make sure there’s also a good mental, emotional and spiritual connection.
Ask yourself, if he got horrifically burned in a fire and didn’t look the same or could perform sexually the same anymore, would you still love him/want to be with him? If yes, then that’s a good sign and you guys COULD work on it and see where it goes.

The sexual aspect of this relationship is definitely something neither one of us has experienced before (in a good way) however I'd like to think we'd both stick by another should something like that ever happen.

Ughhhhhhh one thing I'll give him though is that I have a 10x better understanding of astrology because of how much research I've been doing to understand our relationship, though sometimes we just need other people's perspectives.

Thanks for taking the time I've been re-reading your reply and its resonating more and more

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Laylay
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posted May 07, 2021 01:56 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Laylay     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by hypatia238:
The composite is not a nightmare, the ruler of the DC is the moon and falls in the 4th house and trines Juno conjunct Mars on the AC, note: Mars is the ruler of the IC.

So you two have the marriage asteroid Juno conjunct the IC ruler Mars on an angle (the AC) trine DC ruler Moon in the 4th house. That is promising.

This explains why you guys got involved in a committed relationship and shows potential for this to last but I cant say with certainty it will bc I can't guarantee that for anyone. Your synastry is lovely too. I can say the potential is there for this to last.

The Northnode in the 2H ruled by neptune conjunct saturn in the 12th house I think may be why you feel insecure in the relationship, the Northnode is the compass of the relationship and the ruler of it is neptune in the 12th conjunct saturn. Neptune conjunct saturn in the 12th may bring paranoia and subconscious fears to the surface or may make you feel like the relationship is a dream and not truly real and you are waiting to wake up from it.


Wow thankyou I dont think anyone has ever put a positive light on this composite.

I have been struggling to understand the purpose of our relationship and I hope to figure that out with time but thanks for unveiling why we got into a relationship in the first place.

Do you think that with Saturn being the composite chart ruler and juno conjunct the mars/asc midpoint points to one of the reason we cant walk away from each other or adds some staying power?

Yes Neptune energy is one I personally struggle with, and I cant tell if my judgement is being clouded by the large fantasy component.

I've been in long term relationships before and I've been married before, but I've never been as in love with anyone than I have with this man before, and he says he is the same. I'm just so confused and I've never been this way before. I can make decisions and think rationally but this relationship has really changed me, sometimes for the worst and some times for the better.

Thanks for your reply you've given me alot to think about, but in a good way

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ToughPrincessa1997
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posted May 07, 2021 03:17 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for ToughPrincessa1997     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hello laylay I am in similar situatin in crisis in my relationship and you think so similar to me.. if you really love him i think you should try to make it work.. otherwise you would always question what if... he also diesnt fit my 5th or 7th house but I do truly love him, love is funny isnt it and sometimes even astrology cant explain it... I wish you the best

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