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Topic: a friendship ended because of negative synastry comments made by me
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sis
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posted May 16, 2021 07:22 AM
  
A friend of mine asked me to do synastry chart with a girl 20 years younger than him a while ago... They met through online dating app and as soon as they started seeing eachother they went on a holiday... After they came back, he told me it was a mistake and portraid the girl as a Nymphomaniac ***** ... thats when I accepted to do the chart... (Prior, I kept refusing)Her Saturn is opposing his Sun, Venus, squaring his Mars... Her pluto is squaring his Sun and Venus... Her Mars squaring his Moon So, I commented negatively...( He is not a saturn person at all, nor plutonic ) No contact between Sun-Moon-Venus apart from her Venus sextiles his Sun which is in his second house ( he has good looks and the money ) But the girl managed to lure him... In 2 months time, she moved into his house. Now, it has been 9 months they are living together.. Several times, he asked her to leave but she did not and at the end she convinced him that she is in love with him... ( My friend lost his beloved wife 4 years ago to Cancer and he is a very lonely man suffering manic-depressive episodes..) One minute he is high seeming to be in love and calling her champion in bed, the next minute he calls her a ***** ... complains about she is secretive and caught her lies one to many times... but still he got hooked on her... Unfortunately, recently he blamed me for giving negative synastry comment about the relationship which according to him made him suspicious about her... I got hurt and I ended my friendship with him... They do have good aspects such as Moon receiving Neptune-Pluto trines-sextiles and they do have Venus conjuct Mars - out of sign ( she is the Mars ) but this conjunction receives harsh aspects. and his Mercury making a lot of good aspects to her planets but her Mercury receiving negative aspects... the composite does not look good either Neptune squaring Moon and Venus... Anyways, I still feel bad and keep questioning myself wheather if it was a mistake to negatively comment... What do you think ? Was it wrong to comment negatively - disregarding the good aspects, focusing too much on Saturn and Pluto...
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Stoika7
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posted May 16, 2021 06:16 PM
No, I don't think it was wrong, you were honestly helping him to look at potential issues in their synastry. If it made him suspicious about her it's likely 'cause he had other reasons to be suspicious which he wasn't completely aware of and these likely matched with your reading. If he had no reason to be suspicious, your reading wouldn't become such an issue. IP: Logged |
LunaIscariot
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posted May 16, 2021 07:37 PM
I’m just curious now to see the charts lol crazy story. But I’m sure he will try come back around once it ends and you were right. I wouldn’t stress too much. People in love act irrational and usually don’t see reason or want to think about or see their relationship clearly, it’s in one ear, out the other. It’s like he’s developed a new cocaine addiction (that’s what being in love is like, literally lol it’s been scientifically proven/studied to be the closest equivalent). She’s the drug. Can you post both Synastry and composite charts? And do you have both accurate birthtimes? IP: Logged |
sis
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posted May 17, 2021 02:24 PM
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Originally posted by Stoika7:
No, I don't think it was wrong, you were honestly helping him to look at potential issues in their synastry. If it made him suspicious about her it's likely 'cause he had other reasons to be suspicious which he wasn't completely aware of and these likely matched with your reading. If he had no reason to be suspicious, your reading wouldn't become such an issue.
As a matter of fact first he shared negative info about her then I did the synastry... Thats why I believe him blaming me is so wrong. Thank you Stoika for commenting. I truly appreciate it.
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sis
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posted May 17, 2021 02:33 PM
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Originally posted by LunaIscariot:
I’m just curious now to see the charts lol crazy story. But I’m sure he will try come back around once it ends and you were right. I wouldn’t stress too much. People in love act irrational and usually don’t see reason or want to think about or see their relationship clearly, it’s in one ear, out the other. It’s like he’s developed a new cocaine addiction (that’s what being in love is like, literally lol it’s been scientifically proven/studied to be the closest equivalent). She’s the drug. Can you post both Synastry and composite charts? And do you have both accurate birthtimes?
She is the drug thats so true. Literaly and figuratively... As a matter of fact since he started seeing her he has started consuming too much alcohol and other substances... I dont blame her for the party mood as she is only 26. But I worry about him because he is 46... It has been a very long time since I uploaded any charts on the forum. As far as I can see Photobucket no longer alouds to copy URL.. The synastry and the composite link is below. I hope you can access them. https://app.photobucket.com/u/ECEMI/p/5f829588-9ca5-4782-9b61-60c8f274de69 IP: Logged |
sis
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posted May 17, 2021 02:34 PM
I forgot to tell, yes the birth times correct. IP: Logged |
Hikaru29
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posted May 18, 2021 12:01 AM
I don't know what exactly you said to him but if they corroborated to his experience then why is he blaming you? I suspect he's just trying to pin it on you because his relationship isn't going well. People tend to forget that their real-life experience triumphs and they have free will. Don't just blindly rely on astrology.You link isn't working btw. IP: Logged |
sis
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posted May 18, 2021 03:23 AM
I read interprations on the net about Saturn aspects... also made my own comments and I was a bit fatalistic... those Saturn oppositions, Pluto squares might cause her to be cruel to him at the end... I said things like this... I rechecked the link and realised it was close to public view. I changed it. Hope it works now... IP: Logged |
maleja.rangel
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posted May 18, 2021 09:29 AM
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Originally posted by sis:
I read interprations on the net about Saturn aspects... also made my own comments and I was a bit fatalistic... those Saturn oppositions, Pluto squares might cause her to be cruel to him at the end... I said things like this... I rechecked the link and realised it was close to public view. I changed it. Hope it works now...
well, she is quite young to handle Saturn and Pluto hard aspects. I have this with my partner and its been really hard for us because he can be a harsh person with me but isn't like he do it in an intentional way. This is the problem with Saturn or Pluto, you don't realize you are acting in certain way that can hurt the other. (my perspective), same for Neptune. The thing sometimes is being fatalistic, Astrologers shouldnt be fatalistic, if he is living that situation with her is because he wants and probably wants to live a relationship with her for whatever reason. I think a person should tell you "look, this square can make you like this or this", so you can try and work it "like this". I have seen really bad synastries working out with lots of work and effort and also good synastries that needs lots of work and effort, why? no idea, i guess human beings are very complex. But of course, she also needs to be there. If he is in a serious relationship with her, he should talk with her, and pointing what is going on and how should they work it. Of course, your work is to tell him what you see, but not in a fatalistic way because it cause a big impact in the other but he shouldnt be mad at you because of that anyways. IP: Logged |
sis
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posted May 18, 2021 02:33 PM
I agree with the fatalistic interprations and I dont do it. As a matter of fact I do not read charts for anyone. I consider myself as an astro researcher, and it has been nearly 20 years I have been observing charts and whenever a friend is in need and asks me to check whats going on, I try to help them by providing astro insight...With this one, somehow I slipped. But as I said first, he gave me the - very - negative info... She is 26 but at the age of 13 she became 'lovers' to a man 14 years older than her and dated him for 7 years.. So, she is not a new kid on the block. Other than that, she is highly Plutonic - Venus in Scorpio, Mars squares Pluto on her natal chart - So, I believe she can handle Pluto aspects better than my friend. See, my friend lives abroad. His family, his close friends - none of us are there. He was feeling extremely lonely and when Covid started spreading he was terrified. There was no one to look after him if something happened. Thats what he told to me. So, he became a serial dater via dating app. And got hooked on to this girl because she was a perfect geisha and a champion in bed - his words - ....
Love is a mystery... Synstary can not tell if there will be a romantic involvement or not. But once it starts, I believe by looking at the synastry and the natals it is possible to say if the relationship will be a happy one or not...
I have studied so many charts over the years. I have seen many troublesome aspects in long term married couples. However, all of those harsh aspects were modified by other excellent aspects and the natal charts were compatible with the harsh aspects. But still those harsh aspects even though break ups - divorce did not happen caused so much distress and emotional pain. Therefore, I would not want someone I care for getting deep into a relationship where his Neptunian (square) Venus ( ruler of his emotions - Taurus Moon )receives opposition from Saturn, square from Pluto. with no easy Jupiter aspects around. His Taurus Moon receiving square from Mars is not good either ( She hits him when she is angry - see he is a Sun square Mars guy - he can easily hit back. and then ? ) ( They have too many harsh Mars aspects ) So I guess what I am trying to say is even though we do not openly express it, it is possible to make an accurate assesment on how a relationship will proceed by looking at charts. Anyways, thank you so much for commenting
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Hikaru29
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posted May 18, 2021 02:41 PM
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Originally posted by sis:
I read interprations on the net about Saturn aspects... also made my own comments and I was a bit fatalistic... those Saturn oppositions, Pluto squares might cause her to be cruel to him at the end... I said things like this... I rechecked the link and realised it was close to public view. I changed it. Hope it works now...
You’re right the Pluto/Saturn square/opposite look tough but I don’t think it necessarily means cruelty. Her Sun/Mercury opp his Mars will create arguments but Moon conjunct DSC and Sun/Venus conjunct ASC are strong attraction aspects. Also her Neptune/Uranus complete a grand trine with his Moon/Mercury, her Venus sextile his Venus/Sun and they have nice house overlays so there’s a reason why they feel attracted despite the negatives and he just has to live it as he chose. What other aspects do they have in their composite besides Moon/Venus square Neptune and what are their orbs? The tighter orbs will be felt more strongly than the wide ones. IP: Logged |
sis
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posted May 18, 2021 02:51 PM
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Originally posted by Hikaru29:
What other aspects do they have in their composite besides Moon/Venus square Neptune and what are their orbs? The tighter orbs will be felt more strongly than the wide ones.
The tighest aspects :
Moon square Neptune ( 1s )
Mars sextile Saturn ( 1s )
Mars trine NN ( 1a )
Moon semisquare Saturn ( 1a )
Sun sextile Ascendant ( 2a )
Moon opposite Venus ( 3a )
Saturn opposite NN ( 3a )
Venus square Neptun ( 4a )
Mercury sextile Neptun ( 4s ) * Sun square Mars ( 6s ) IP: Logged |
Hikaru29
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posted May 19, 2021 12:15 AM
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Originally posted by sis:
The tighest aspects :
Moon square Neptune ( 1s )
Mars sextile Saturn ( 1s )
Mars trine NN ( 1a )
Moon semisquare Saturn ( 1a )
Sun sextile Ascendant ( 2a )
Moon opposite Venus ( 3a )
Saturn opposite NN ( 3a )
Venus square Neptun ( 4a )
Mercury sextile Neptun ( 4s )* Sun square Mars ( 6s )
It will be easier to see a chart but from here I see that Mars-Saturn-NN formed a wedge which can be binding. Neptune squares can be a serious problem if one or both are Neptunian. IP: Logged |
sis
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posted May 19, 2021 02:10 PM
He is Sun-Venus square Neptune opposite Mars..I wish him the best. Thank you all for commenting. IP: Logged |
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