posted August 21, 2007 09:37 AM            

Tho, our asc's were in exact conj. so his stellium of Venus, Mars and his Cancer sun in his 8th fell as well in my 8th, so he projected his power and control issues onto me and the relationship.

Another, someone's Mars falling into your 12th....another one from experience, the guy just creeps me out, makes me uncomfortable. We have mutual Taurus moons and squared suns, the Mars thing just gives me the creeps, and I felt this before I did his chart, like something is lurking just beyond the surface, and it does not help his Mars is in Scorpio.

posted August 21, 2007 09:50 AM            

There isn't much communication or mutual understanding, because of the aggressive energy it produces. It gets nasty.
imo it beats any Pluto or Saturn squares/opps to personal planets. All of that can be easier to sort out than Sun/Mars.. I'm only referring to the square - The opposition doesn't come close in my experience.

Saturn square Mars - in composite

posted August 21, 2007 10:35 AM              

Sun Conjunct Saturn
Sun Opposite Saturn
Moon Quincunx Saturn
Moon Quincunx Pluto
Moons Mutually Oppose Neptune
Mercury Opposite Saturn
Sun Square Mars
Mercury Square Mars
Mercury Square Mercury
Venus Square Chiron
Venus Quincunx Pluto
Venus Opposite Neptune (26 mins)
Mars Square Uranus
Moon Quincunx Uranus
Saturn Square Chiron

In the composite:

Saturn in the 7th
Pluto in the 8th
Mars in the 6th

Sun Square Saturn
Sun Square Pluto
Mercury Square Saturn
Mercury Square Pluto
Venus Square Saturn
Venus Square Pluto
Moon Opposite Neptune
Mars Square Uranus
Saturn Conjunct Pluto

I'm in love.

His Moon conjuncts mine in the 12th. His Saturn is in my 5th. My Neptune in his 1st, my Uranus in his 12th, my Pluto in his 10th. His Pluto's in my 5th.

posted August 21, 2007 11:26 AM              

For example: Someone with a lot of Uranian vibes in their natal chart, could easily label a hard Pluto-square as red flag aspect.

Or like me: I love strong Pluto aspects (well, maybe not "love", but they are certainly no red flag to me), even the Mars-Pluto-square, not easy, but very passionate and fascinating, but then again I have Venus-Pluto square and an emphasis on the 2nd - 8th house axis, so I guess the Pluto energy is familiar to me in some way.

But what I don`t like too much are squares to my Moon, not even by soft Venus.
Interestingly the only challenging aspects my moon can deal with, seems to be Saturn. And Moon - Saturn is said to be a Red Flag aspect, but it has occured too often in close, very deep and meaningful relationships and friendships to be a coincidence.

Also regarding the Mars-SAturn conjunction, I know some couples, who have that, and they have been together for more than a decade, in the case of my parents, more than 30 years, and I think this aspect kept them going, even in hardships.
But then again, in those cases there were strong SAturnian natal aspects, too, so they could deal with that energy, I think.
I`m not so sure if I would like a Mars Saturn square or conjunction or opposition for myself. My My Mars is in Sagittarius in 12th house conjunct Neptune and ASC and square Jupiter. I think I can safely predict that a Mars-Saturn-aspect in synastry would at least be a challenge to me, even though my Venus in Capricorn would probably feel quite intrigued by the Mars-Saturn-energy.
Actually I have felt drawn to some men, who had Saturnian influence natally, mostly by Sun and Mars in Capricorn, but the challenging aspects could be a tad too much in the end.

Well, what I wanted to say is, that I strongly believe, that our red flag aspects depend on our individual natal charts.

posted August 21, 2007 09:39 PM            

I don't like someone with too many planets in my 6th house. Pisces is intercepted in my 6th and I seem to attract Pisceans and men with Piscean placements like moths to a flame, but... my ex-husband was a Sun/Venus & Mars Pisces... who also had his Saturn sitting exact on my ASC and that relationship just felt like WORK.

posted August 21, 2007 09:52 PM              

I was forced to break up because of emotional abuse. Wrote a very nice breakup letter and never even received an acknowledgement. Haven't seen nor heard from the other party in over a month.

I might even surmise that any hard Uranus aspects spell trouble and I am inclined to avoid them if possible, but as we all know life does not always give us an option.

posted August 21, 2007 10:14 PM            

Synastry - hard aspects to Neptune (still the worst case in my opinion!!), and incompatible Mercury/Mercury (hard to communicate and understand each other) and Venus/Venus (difference between tastes might clash).. Saturn can also put a big damper in a synastry..

posted August 22, 2007 03:51 AM              

synastrically my mom has aries sun conjunct moon at 6 ares. i have sun conjunct moon at 3 cancer. my mars squares my sun-moon at 9 libra. yup a T-SQUARE !!!

posted August 22, 2007 04:13 AM              

In composite, Mars conjunct ascendant in the first house, at the apex of a T-square was pretty awful. A lot of blow-ups, and in public too. Uranus square moon didn't help matters either.

Sun, Mercury and Venus all opposite Neptune in composite... all I can say about that one is that it was very romantic for a long time. The romantic illusions faded but I wouldn't call it 'disillusionment'.

In my opinion, the worst things have been related to transits rather than aspects in the synastry or composite... Uranus squaring composite Venus was DREADFUL, and in hindsight, terribly upsetting for both of us. Saturn has been conjuncting the composite DC for a while now and in all honesty, I prefer this Saturn transit to the Uranus square anyday. You feel like things are out of your control in the Uranus transit, but with Saturn you just do what you know is necessary.

posted August 22, 2007 04:59 AM              

My chiron conjunct her sun
Her chiron conjunct my moon

We have a lot of arguments that don't seem to make sense to me and I feel pressured a lot for just following my own path (nothing bad - she just doesn't think it's best for me). She's also having her second Saturn return right now and the Uranus square Uranus transit. Meanwhile, I'm having Pluto square Pluto, Pluto conjunct ascendant, and Saturn square ascendant.

posted August 22, 2007 07:26 AM              

as for Chiron it does figure heavily in relationships that help people evolve for the better , irrespective of how it ends.
however i should say chiron and pluto aspects do trigger our wounded areas that " dont heal " so in a way it is a red flag but for ther best

also i think asteroids with chiron, pluto are IMP.
get this i have a karma - pluto double whammy in synastry. as per IQ it reveals a transformative bond that has developed over lives , that will never break easily. it is not akin to a karma-venus or karma -moon, that implies emotional or love karma, it can be a simple debt being repaid , not necessarily the DEAL. but with Karma- Pluto use ur imagination....

also i would like anyone who has a Grand square in synastry to comment. i have experienced a T- Square with Mom. would like to know what can be worse

posted August 22, 2007 07:47 AM              

I never thought Uranus is that important in the chart, considering that it is "outer" planet. But...

I have a badly aspected Uranus-Venus with this one guy... both ways, and now it is making perfect sense to me:

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Electric attraction characterizes this pairing. However, both will have to deal with an inability to truly count on one another over time. The Uranus person may resent any hint that the Venus person wants more of a commitment from, or structure in, the relationship.

Affection may be inconstant, or the two may often be separated from one another at key moments. In order for this relationship to work, both parties need to expect the unexpected.

This relationship can be an emotional rollercoaster ride, particularly for the Venus person. When the Venus person is feeling especially romantic, the Uranus person may be just out of reach somehow, whether it is a physical reality or takes the form of mental or emotional distancing.

This relationship has an erratic, unstable, but exciting quality.

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posted August 22, 2007 09:50 AM              

thank you for your backing up.

Izo,

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coz the natal chart decides what type of partners and relationships we attract ~ either with a similar energy, or with a different one, so we can adapt.

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But, if I must select one aspect, it would be Saturn square/opposition Venus, both synastry and composite/Davison. NOT because it is frustrating, but because it can prevent two people from actually coming together.

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Venus de India,

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" we only attract what is inside us." PERIOD.

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on what DD said i think a person with atleast 1 Square in their natal can handle it better in synastry than one with a lot of trines and sextiles.

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posted June 04, 2021 07:39 PM            

Also Venus square Venus (I felt like he was very cold and I was very unhappy towards the end).