posted June 22, 2021 06:36 AM            

Also, mars and north node is squaring the love stellium as well, could this still point to a heavily karmic relationship / unrequited love?

posted June 22, 2021 12:23 PM            

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Originally posted by zionkay:
Does anyone have any experiences with a composite love stellium all squared by pluto? Is this potentially a marker for unrequited love where one party is obsessed while the other doesnt feel anything at all?

Also, mars and north node is squaring the love stellium as well, could this still point to a heavily karmic relationship / unrequited love?

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Not sure about a 1-way obsession as both masculine and feminine are involved with Sun/Mercury/Venus, but maybe it could point to a heavily karmic and transformational relationship for the both of you. I thought I read somewhere that the composite Pluto is the karma (or the masculine's karma - I can't remember) brought forward from a past life? I have the love stellium (with addition of Valentine/Lust conjunct Venus) with an older male coworker and it's square the nodes as well. It is a relationship where there is mutual care, tenderness, love and laughter but it will remain unrequited as he is 19 years older than me, we're coworkers and I'm married. There's a sense of "if only."

posted June 23, 2021 04:24 AM            

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Originally posted by zionkay:
Does anyone have any experiences with a composite love stellium all squared by pluto? Is this potentially a marker for unrequited love where one party is obsessed while the other doesnt feel anything at all?

Also, mars and north node is squaring the love stellium as well, could this still point to a heavily karmic relationship / unrequited love?

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posted June 23, 2021 03:13 PM            

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Originally posted by AmberMoon:
Not sure about a 1-way obsession as both masculine and feminine are involved with Sun/Mercury/Venus, but maybe it could point to a heavily karmic and transformational relationship for the both of you. I thought I read somewhere that the composite Pluto is the karma (or the masculine's karma - I can't remember) brought forward from a past life? I have the love stellium (with addition of Valentine/Lust conjunct Venus) with an older male coworker and it's square the nodes as well. It is a relationship where there is mutual care, tenderness, love and laughter but it will remain unrequited as he is 19 years older than me, we're coworkers and I'm married. There's a sense of "if only."

How do you feel in the relationship? Are you the masculine or feminine?

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It's interesting how similar our cases are. She is significantly older than me (a bigger age gap than yours), we met through work, and she's married as well so there goes the possibility of something happening between us. But in our case, we're both women so the masculine-femme dynamic doesn't really apply to us (though we have the classic Sun-Moon conjunction in synastry). We have the venus-pluto double whammy in synastry as well, plus moon conjunct mars and venus square saturn.

It's indeed highly transformative because she is my gay awakening.

I tried therapy, and made drastic steps to better myself just to forget about her. I even tried dating other people, which ultimately didnt work out and only made my longing for her even worse. I thought with pluto types of dynamics, once you succumb and accept the need to transform, then the relationship will be over which will then help with the release. But why is it that I'm still I'm suffering from limerence for years now. I must have some heavy karmic debts to pay.

I don't know if she feels the same, or if she's obsessed towards me too. With whatever karma that I or we (?) have to pay, i dont know.

I've read some interpretations about pluto squaring the stellium that it could potentially mean abuse, but for us, whenever we're together, I could feel that sense of warmth and peace around her.

I've read that mars squaring the stellium could mean irritation and rubbing each other the wrong way, but at least in my part, it just added to that undeniable attraction.

posted June 23, 2021 03:35 PM            

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Originally posted by Laylay:
I am currently in a relationship with a man where in our composite the mars is square to love stellium and I will say it does cause a lot of arguments, competitiveness and bickering but it is more of an annoyance more than anything. I will say it gives us a lot energy though. It doesn't really alter the affinity between us however but we do wish we could just stop the arguments and misunderstandings which we are working on.
We dont have pluto square to love stellium however transit pluto is currently squaring it so I dont know how much that changes things but things between us are actually better than ever since this transit.. I am the more plutonian in our synastry so I have always been more obsessed with him I feel however since the pluto square love stellium transit in our composite we have become especially close and clingy with one another, like more equal in our obsession with one another and the relationship itself, trying our best to preserve it. I know squares point to a challenging energy however this transit has not manifested this way for us thus far.
As to karmic or unrequited I would want to look at the whole picture i.e house positions etc so sorry i cant be of more assistance there

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We've never had arguments so far, but that probably hasn't showed up yet because we were never in an official relationship anyway (with her being married, and being older than me, and us being both women). If anything, i guess mars squaring the love stellium just added to the intensity of my attraction towards her up to the point where I'm starting to loathe myself for being under her spell.

I'm a plutonian as well so I guess that's why I'm obsessed towards her.

In synastry we have the classic venus-pluto double whammy (my pluto conjuncting her venus and her pluto opposite my venus), the sun-moon conjunction and moon conjunct mars, her moon and mars in my 8th house, my draconic sun is conjunct her natal venus plus my draconic venus is conjunct her sun. I'd like to believe that the feelings are mutual but I'm not really sure how she feels about me, and where I stand (her saturn squaring my venus in synastry).

It's interesting how you pointed out transit pluto squaring your stellium. In a few years, pluto will be conjuncting our love stellium. Part of me wants some release from this karmic debt with her but at the same time I am living for it. I wonder if pluto activating that love stellium will further intensify whatever we have, or if it leads to an ending.

posted June 23, 2021 08:45 PM            

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Originally posted by zionkay:
It's interesting how similar our cases are. She is significantly older than me (a bigger age gap than yours), we met through work, and she's married as well so there goes the possibility of something happening between us. But in our case, we're both women so the masculine-femme dynamic doesn't really apply to us (though we have the classic Sun-Moon conjunction in synastry). We have the venus-pluto double whammy in synastry as well, plus moon conjunct mars and venus square saturn.

It's indeed highly transformative because she is my gay awakening.

I tried therapy, and made drastic steps to better myself just to forget about her. I even tried dating other people, which ultimately didnt work out and only made my longing for her even worse. I thought with pluto types of dynamics, once you succumb and accept the need to transform, then the relationship will be over which will then help with the release. But why is it that I'm still I'm suffering from limerence for years now. I must have some heavy karmic debts to pay.

I don't know if she feels the same, or if she's obsessed towards me too. With whatever karma that I or we (?) have to pay, i dont know.

I've read some interpretations about pluto squaring the stellium that it could potentially mean abuse, but for us, whenever we're together, I could feel that sense of warmth and peace around her.

I've read that mars squaring the stellium could mean irritation and rubbing each other the wrong way, but at least in my part, it just added to that undeniable attraction.

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Ugh, my heart just breaks for you. I can feel the anguish coming through even though we are (probably) miles apart. I am listing to sad Lord Huron songs and drinking too much beer right now and really channeling your energy LOL. I have to say, I had a strange knowing that you were both females. That's why I threw out the "masculine/feminine." Although you are both females, there is always one who embodies the masculine and one who takes on the feminine. It is only human nature.

My example is not nearly as painful as yours sounds because it is only square the nodes, and I can't really peek in his mind to know exactly what he's feeling. I love him dearly but in a platonic way. But yours is squaring Pluto, Mars and the nodes? Wow, I don't blame you at all for having to go to therapy. Personally, I would highly recommend you spend the money and get an Akashic records session done by a reputable reader focusing on your relationship with this woman. I had this done with the man I have been deeply obsessed and in love with for the last 18 months (not my husband or this coworker, haha) and it was very revealing and healing. He actually owes me an enormous debt from past life treatment which he is running away from currently and it will need to be settled before I can fully move on.

posted June 25, 2021 04:23 PM            

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Originally posted by AmberMoon:
Ugh, my heart just breaks for you. I can feel the anguish coming through even though we are (probably) miles apart. I am listing to sad Lord Huron songs and drinking too much beer right now and really channeling your energy LOL. I have to say, I had a strange knowing that you were both females. That's why I threw out the "masculine/feminine." Although you are both females, there is always one who embodies the masculine and one who takes on the feminine. It is only human nature.

My example is not nearly as painful as yours sounds because it is only square the nodes, and I can't really peek in his mind to know exactly what he's feeling. I love him dearly but in a platonic way. But yours is squaring Pluto, Mars and the nodes? Wow, I don't blame you at all for having to go to therapy. Personally, I would highly recommend you spend the money and get an Akashic records session done by a reputable reader focusing on your relationship with this woman. I had this done with the man I have been deeply obsessed and in love with for the last 18 months (not my husband or this coworker, haha) and it was very revealing and healing. He actually owes me an enormous debt from past life treatment which he is running away from currently and it will need to be settled before I can fully move on.

Anyway, highly karmic, transformational and painful I would imagine. I feel for you. Maybe a deep dive into the records would be worth it for you. If you want, I can give you the name of the psychic I worked with. Hang in there, hun!

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posted June 25, 2021 04:28 PM            

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Originally posted by AmberMoon:
Ugh, my heart just breaks for you. I can feel the anguish coming through even though we are (probably) miles apart. I am listing to sad Lord Huron songs and drinking too much beer right now and really channeling your energy LOL. I have to say, I had a strange knowing that you were both females. That's why I threw out the "masculine/feminine." Although you are both females, there is always one who embodies the masculine and one who takes on the feminine. It is only human nature.

My example is not nearly as painful as yours sounds because it is only square the nodes, and I can't really peek in his mind to know exactly what he's feeling. I love him dearly but in a platonic way. But yours is squaring Pluto, Mars and the nodes? Wow, I don't blame you at all for having to go to therapy. Personally, I would highly recommend you spend the money and get an Akashic records session done by a reputable reader focusing on your relationship with this woman. I had this done with the man I have been deeply obsessed and in love with for the last 18 months (not my husband or this coworker, haha) and it was very revealing and healing. He actually owes me an enormous debt from past life treatment which he is running away from currently and it will need to be settled before I can fully move on.

Anyway, highly karmic, transformational and painful I would imagine. I feel for you. Maybe a deep dive into the records would be worth it for you. If you want, I can give you the name of the psychic I worked with. Hang in there, hun!

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I am caught between thinking that I'll probably never meet someone like her again in my life vs thinking that this is only an irrational obsession. I don't know if I should permanently cut her out of my life (which I did several times before, but I failed) or if doing so would be a huge mistake.

This is the first time that I've heard of Akashic records, but I'm curious. I'm interested in the psychic you worked with, please let me know. Thank you!

posted July 05, 2021 09:58 AM            

Initially I was afraid because the feeling was so strong. The sexual attraction was even stronger. He approached me with such intensity it made me run... but after he kissed me, I couldn't get him out of my mind. Damn. I was obsessed with him and I didn't hide it. He was obsessed with me too but he hid his feelings, behaving like he didn't care. This caused a lot of resentment and mind games between us in the first year. (note: this is where you've to be careful of the negative manifestations of Pluto). We were both afraid of being hurt so we hurt each other instead and when we saw the other person hurt by our behaviour, we didn't believe it. We thought they might be pretending. There was a lot of suspicion and overprotection of our own feelings.

It led to an ugly breakup and I thought we were over... but a month+ later we reconciled. Perhaps we had unresolved karma. A lot of emotions came out during the talk. We agreed we won't play games or do the push/pull thing that hurt each other anymore. Change wasn't immediate. Took us another 2 months to get on the same page.

posted July 05, 2021 03:18 PM            

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Originally posted by zionkay:
I am caught between thinking that I'll probably never meet someone like her again in my life vs thinking that this is only an irrational obsession. I don't know if I should permanently cut her out of my life (which I did several times before, but I failed) or if doing so would be a huge mistake.

This is the first time that I've heard of Akashic records, but I'm curious. I'm interested in the psychic you worked with, please let me know. Thank you!

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Sorry this took me so long. Her name is Sam and she's on Etsy. She's the sweetest person alive.

www.etsy.com/shop/findmeinthestars?ref=search_shop_redirect

posted July 07, 2021 03:17 PM            

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Originally posted by Hikaru29:
My relationship has composite love stellium square Pluto. It was instant attraction and strongly felt both ways. There is no abuse (nothing intentional). It may have been karmic because I dreamt of him before we met.

Initially I was afraid because the feeling was so strong. The sexual attraction was even stronger. He approached me with such intensity it made me run... but after he kissed me, I couldn't get him out of my mind. Damn. I was obsessed with him and I didn't hide it. He was obsessed with me too but he hid his feelings, behaving like he didn't care. This caused a lot of resentment and mind games between us in the first year. (note: this is where you've to be careful of the negative manifestations of Pluto). We were both afraid of being hurt so we hurt each other instead and when we saw the other person hurt by our behaviour, we didn't believe it. We thought they might be pretending. There was a lot of suspicion and overprotection of our own feelings.

It led to an ugly breakup and I thought we were over... but a month+ later we reconciled. Perhaps we had unresolved karma. A lot of emotions came out during the talk. We agreed we won't play games or do the push/pull thing that hurt each other anymore. Change wasn't immediate. Took us another 2 months to get on the same page.

Your cMars also square the stellium so does it all form a t-square?

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posted July 07, 2021 03:34 PM            

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Originally posted by Hikaru29:
My relationship has composite love stellium square Pluto. It was instant attraction and strongly felt both ways. There is no abuse (nothing intentional). It may have been karmic because I dreamt of him before we met.

Initially I was afraid because the feeling was so strong. The sexual attraction was even stronger. He approached me with such intensity it made me run... but after he kissed me, I couldn't get him out of my mind. Damn. I was obsessed with him and I didn't hide it. He was obsessed with me too but he hid his feelings, behaving like he didn't care. This caused a lot of resentment and mind games between us in the first year. (note: this is where you've to be careful of the negative manifestations of Pluto). We were both afraid of being hurt so we hurt each other instead and when we saw the other person hurt by our behaviour, we didn't believe it. We thought they might be pretending. There was a lot of suspicion and overprotection of our own feelings.

It led to an ugly breakup and I thought we were over... but a month+ later we reconciled. Perhaps we had unresolved karma. A lot of emotions came out during the talk. We agreed we won't play games or do the push/pull thing that hurt each other anymore. Change wasn't immediate. Took us another 2 months to get on the same page.

Your cMars also square the stellium so does it all form a t-square?

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That palpable intensity, that overwhelming sexual attraction, the obsession, that urge to be with that person- everything you said resonates with what I'm going through. Well, except that I dont know if she's feeling the same intensity and obsession as I do.

It's been years and I still couldnt get her out of my mind.

We never really interacted much at first though we knew each other for a long time. But all of a sudden, as if I was hit by a lightning (it's corny i know), i magically fell HARD for her. And because of the intensity of the feelings, I amped up each interaction with her and I thought I was coming on too strong.

Part of me thinks it's unfair if I'm the only one experiencing this agony, and this resulted in resentment because she did seem nonchalant initially. Then she started noticing me at work and we had deep and personal conversations about things that we wouldnt have otherwise told other people. Nothing physical ever happened, because she's married.

She's one of the kindest souls I've ever met but the thing is, she'd be excited to see me one day, and the next, it's like she's ignoring me. I hate this feeling over being under her control.

Yes. Composite Mars squares the love stellium and opposite that is Pluto. It does form an ugly grand cross because the stellium consists of sun and venus being opposite each other

posted July 07, 2021 03:36 PM            

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Originally posted by AmberMoon:
Sorry this took me so long. Her name is Sam and she's on Etsy. She's the sweetest person alive.

www.etsy.com/shop/findmeinthestars?ref=search_shop_redirect

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Thank you so much!