posted July 17, 2021 08:00 AM            

I was also quite surprised by our exact Draco Sun - Moon conjunction (in Draco his Moon - my Sun, in tropical we have a wider conjunction of his Sun - my Moon), with his Venus conjunct within 5* orb. This Draco Sun-Moon exact conjunction is also EXACTLY conjunct the tropical composite Moon and his tropical Sun-Moon midpoint.

Another quite amazing coincidence is that his Draco Dsc exactly conjuncts my tropical Asc.

I got converted into Draco and asteroids after I've discovered that my Draco name asteroid is exactly conjunct my tropical Asc and a tropical asteroid resembling a name of the city where I was born. So his Draco Dsc is also exactly conjunct my Draco name asteroid and my tropical Asc as well.

Apart from that, there are exact conjunctions:
his tropical Moon - my Draco Venus (and his tropical Venus within 5* orb)
his Draco Mars - my Draco MC
his Draco MC - my tropical Sun (and my tropical South Node within 4* orb)
his Draco RELOCATED Vertex - my Draco Sun
my Draco RELOCATED Vertex - his Draco Sun within 3* orb
my Draco Part of Fortune - his tropical Dsc - his Draco Sun & Vertex
his Draco Jupiter & Part if Fortune - my Draco Juno & Lilith

and a tight opposition of his Draco Pluto on my tropical Uranus with my Draco Moon, Jupiter, Saturn

As for PROGRESSED COMPOSITE, check it out for your relationship especially in relation to your natals and individual progressions. You might be amazed!!

I use midpoint progressed composites (i.e. midpoints between 2 progressed charts), and I can see that they are definitely sensitive to transits, together with a natal composite.

E.g., for our first (unexpected) kiss:
- transit Sun was exactly conjunct PROGRESSED composite Venus
- transit Neptune was exactly conjunct PROGRESSED composite Antivertex (with transit Vesta on its Vertex and Part if Fortune)
- transit North Node within 3* applying to the PROGRESSED composite IC
- transit Pluto & Moon exactly on our natal synastry conjunction of Amor-Valentine, trine to natal composite Moon
- transit Uranus 3* separated from natal composite IC and from the opposition to Venus
- transit South Node exactly conjunct his name asteroid in the natal composite

posted July 23, 2021 06:11 AM            

In all examples above the sensitive spots were PROGRESSED relocated angles, so the time AND the place.

posted January 12, 2022 08:04 AM            

I actually wonder about 2 questions:

1) synastry between prognostic charts matters only for significant years, like a start of a relationship, marriage? or in general if these overlaps are lacking for a year, people will drift away from each other?

2) what is the difference between Solar Return to Natal versus Solar Return to Solar Return?

posted January 12, 2022 12:28 PM            

My SR Ic conjunct his natal Dsc
My SR Asc conjunct his natal pluto
&
His SR Asc conjunct my natal IC

posted January 12, 2022 08:17 PM            

And how is your relationship going? Is it significant one for both of you?

posted January 12, 2022 08:55 PM            

his SR Asc at the degree of my natal Asc

his SR Vertex conjunct my natal Vertex

our SR Asc & Vertexes conjunct DW (about 1-3* orb)

our SR IC and MC swapped and conjunct DW

our SR Moons in the same signs

our SR Venuses on our natal MCs, repeating their natal position on MCs

my SR Moon at the degree of his SR Vertex (and conjunct my natal Vertex)

his SR Valentine conjunct my Moon, Jupiter, Saturn
his SR Amor conjunct my Sun
my SR Valentine conjunct his SR Asc
my SR Amor conjunct his North Node
(these are kind of indirect double-whammies)

his SR Jupiter, Pluto and Saturn conjunct my SR and natal Venus

his SR Juno exactly conjunct my natal Juno (at about 3* from his natal Dsc)

In my own Solar Return I had:
SR Vertex conjunct natal Vertex
SR Venus conjunct natal Venus
SR Amor loosely conjunct natal Amor (6*)
SR Asc conjunct SR and natal Vertex
SR Moon conjunct SR and natal Vertex
our SR name asteroids are in exact opposition

In his Solar Return:
my SR name asteroid conjunct his natal Sum & Vertex
his SR Venus & SR MC conjunct his natal Venus & Moon

posted January 12, 2022 09:19 PM            

But we do have a lot of overlaps in our Solar Returns. What do you think of these overlaps?

HIM - ME (conjunctions)

SR Amor - Dsc DW
Asc - SR Amor DW

SR Moon - Pluto (6*orb) DW
Pluto - SR Moon DW

SR Vertex - SR Asc DW
SR Asc - SR Vertex (9*orb) DW

SR Asc - SNode DW
SNode - SR Asc DW

SR MC - SR IC
SR IC - SR MC

SR Asc & Saturn - SR Sun & Sun DWindir
Moon - SR Asc DWindir

SR Venus & SR Valentine - Uranus, SR SNode & opposite SR NNode & SR Ceres

SR NNode - SR MC

SR Moon - SR Moon in the same sign (9*orb)

MIRROR PATTERNS

His SR:
SR Moon - Dsc DW
SR Vertex - Moon DW
SR Vertex - SNode
our SR name asteroids trine in the same degree

posted January 12, 2022 09:34 PM            

Earlier last year, I did do the SR charts for my boyfriend and I and saw interesting parallels and wondered if other people had discussed this but did not find any topics about it.

I am glad you brought this up. What do you think is the cause behind these conjunctions?

So, my bf and I met in 2018. For our SR in 2018.

His SR descendent conjunct my natal ascendent in taurus.
His SR neptune conjunct my jupiter in pisces.

My SR mercury conjunct his natal uranus in aquarius.

SR for 2021.

His SR jupiter conjunct my mars in aquarius.
His SR uranus conjunct my natal ascendent in taurus.
His SR MC conjunct my moon in taurus.
His SR DSC conjunct my mars in aquarius.

My SR mercury conjunct his natal asc exact in scorpio.
My SR sun conjunct his natal saturn in scorpio.
My SR uranus conjunct his true node in taurus.
My SR MC conjunct his moon in cancer.

Both our SR MCs are conjuncting each other's natal moon. What do you think this means?

posted January 12, 2022 09:46 PM            

Can you also look up the years inbetween? to try to answer a question whether a relationship continues if there are no significant overlaps. Did it occur to you to NOT have significant overlaps while you continued being together?

As for your current Moon-MC double-whammy, do you consider moving in together or getting married or getting a baby? It does seem very homey.

posted January 13, 2022 04:01 AM            

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Originally posted by AlmaRegulus:
Angryant, thank you!

And how is your relationship going? Is it significant one for both of you?

IC involvement means you moved in together?

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It became serious for both of us pretty early on--we aren't honeymoon phase crazy either. We are looking towards marriage and children have not moved in together but do spend just about every night together. He has said I feel like home to him, even though we have no 4h overlays.. Though in synastry my NN is conjunct his IC.

posted January 13, 2022 06:00 AM            

This is quite impressive. Basically with those SR IC & Asc you have double-whammies.

posted January 13, 2022 06:10 AM            

SR Asc - SNode DW
SNode - SR Asc DW

SR Asc & Saturn - SR Sun & Sun

SR Venus & SR Valentine - Uranus, SR SNode & opposite SR NNode & SR Ceres

Uranus on Venus and Valentine is never good I guess. But on top of that, my SR South Node is there as well. Isn't South Node supposed to diminish the principle of a planet where it is falling?

And interestingly, my own SR North Node is conjunct SR Ceres. Can it signify a pregnancy or a desire to get pregnant? which would lead to a breakup with the guy?

At the same time, his SR Saturn is on my Sun, not sure if it's good or bad. Well at least some antidote to Uranus I guess?

Weirdly, his SR Saturn is on his SR Asc, and my SR Saturn is on my SR Vertex.

posted January 13, 2022 07:53 AM            

As for Uranus on venus/valentine, it may just signify some excitement or change? (I am not sure if I like the asteroid valentine and obviously there are other factors in play, but I know a couple with the male asteroid closely conjunct 3 of the woman's planets, and he is the one who had multiple affairs after having 3 children with her.)

I also have read some people got married when SN was on their IC, so I think the SN is not always a bringer of bad news.

posted January 13, 2022 08:37 AM            

The NN-MC double whammy is pretty cool, we help each others careers or we both change the way we appear to the public?

Our draco:
My dr Sun same sign as his dr Sun
My dr Moon same sign+conjunct his dr Moon
My dr Moon conjunct his karma
My dr MC conjunct his dr PoF
My dr karma conjunct his dr DSC (3 deg orb)
His karma conjunct my dr DSC (3 deg orb)

The karma-DSC is interesting as well because in our composite: karma 1'13, dsc 1'15.

Draco + When we met SR2021/22:
My SR ASC/DSC in same sign as his SR ASC/DSC and (off by 4 deg) Dr ASC/DSC (off by 10 deg)
My SR PoF conjunct his dr ASC
My SR Saturn conjunct his dr IC
His SR DSC conjunct my dr Sun
His SR Mars conjunct my dr Venus
His SR Moon conjunct my dr Karma
His SR IC conjunct my dr Jupiter
His SR MC&PoF conjunct my dr Aphrodite (lol my beauty gives him fortune?)
His SR Karma conjunct my dr Ceres

posted January 13, 2022 09:17 AM            

Thank you for looking up all the details! It's prescious! This Draco stuff is strong. Either way, you are not random people in each other's lives.

As for MC, it can also reflect a change of status like marriage. With North Node on MC, South Node is on IC, so it would also involve changes of home or family.

Definitely try for a baby if you are in the mood. As for us, we are not at the stage of agreeing to have a baby together. Unless it happens accidentally or with someone else I meet.

posted January 13, 2022 01:26 PM            

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Originally posted by AlmaRegulus:
Chocogold, I'm on the same page as you! I don't even rely on Solar Returns in general. The creepier I find these overlaps, and exact to a degree!

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Another problem with them is that for some people, the events reflected in the SR chart take place in the next SR chart. For example, a 2022 SR chart might indicate moving but it is not until 2023 that the event (moving) takes place. So, this makes SR charts sort of unreliable.

quote:

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Can you also look up the years inbetween? to try to answer a question whether a relationship continues if there are no significant overlaps. Did it occur to you to NOT have significant overlaps while you continued being together?

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I only checked for the year we met and this year because....I have a feeling we will be getting married this year or in early 2022. Take a look at this link: https://www.astariasol.com/post/how-to-see-marriage-in-the-solar-return-chart

Based on the article above, my 2021 SR chart has the following:
Ascendant in Libra
Mercury conjunct mars

Yet, the pluto in first shows for my 2022 SR chart.
I have a feeling this might be a situation in which the wedding will take place after my 2021 SR so in 2022.

I wish she had posted an article for men's SR charts.

Now, as to the rest.

2019

My SR sun conjunct his natal saturn in scorpio (but this will always be present anyways) so I do not think this counts.
My SR venus conjunct his natal uranus in sag.

His SR neptune conjunct my natal jupiter in pisces.
His SR MC conjunct my natal sun in scorpio.

2020

My SR mercury conjunct his pluto in scorpio.
His SR uranus conjunct my moon/asc in taurus.
His SR neptune conjunct my jupiter in pisces.

Are you only taking conjunctions into consideration? Because I have noticed exact oppositions and trines too.

quote:

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As for your current Moon-MC double-whammy, do you consider moving in together or getting married or getting a baby? It does seem very homey.

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You called it. I did not want to say anything about it because of bias/influence but, if all goes well, we will be getting engaged soon and marry sometime later this year or early next year. And, then moving in together so yes.

quote:

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What I am not sure about is Uranus, and I have it prominent too for this year. Anything Uranian in your relationship?

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Hmm....this is the one that concerns me. Uranus will be transiting his 7th house, which I have read in the negative yet, I have also read that uranus could also indicate change and not necessarily breakup.

As an aside, I remember reading that uranus transits on women's natal charts (especially asc/desc) could mean a change such as marriage.

Regardless, he will be going through uranus square venus and uranus opposing his asc. I will have uranus conjuncting my asc and moon. I do not know if the uranus in the SR chart have to do with our individual natals?
When it comes to synastry and composite, we have some uranus connections but I think this has to do with us being from different cultures/backgrounds. At least, that is how I interpret our uranus connections.

posted January 13, 2022 10:50 PM            

I would like to show you something really interesting. I uploaded the synastry charts between solar return charts and natal charts, since there are so many connections that it would be a long list in words.

The main theme I see is angle conjunctions in both charts. You can judge for yourself since I don't really know what is important and what not.
Can't tell you how long it will last. All new to me. What I can tell you is that we met through work, we are colleagues, he left his girlfriend to be with me, we are already taking about living together, having a family, etc.

I hope I will help in your survey!

I was born in 1986, he was born in 1990.

Solar 2021 - Natal

Solar 2022 - Natal

If you think there is something important here, I would like to know!