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CapriciousCapricorn
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posted July 11, 2021 05:28 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for CapriciousCapricorn     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hello everyone,

I would like to ask about Neptune transit today, specifically Neptune squaring natal Moon and/or Venus. Is this always a negative time? Everywhere I read it says the person tends to feel heavy and gloomy under this transit, not seeing things clearly as they are until the tarnsit is over. If this is true, why is this also often associated with cheating? Men leaving wives would be one old-fashioned example. Why dooes the person leave their spouse under this transit? Is it because they are dissatisfied with them, unhappy etc? Or is it because they fall in love with somebody else? If the latter, then don't they feel the opposite of what they describe in the transit descriptions - happy, rather than sad?

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posted July 11, 2021 10:44 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for AmberMoon     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by CapriciousCapricorn:
Hello everyone,

I would like to ask about Neptune transit today, specifically Neptune squaring natal Moon and/or Venus. Is this always a negative time? Everywhere I read it says the person tends to feel heavy and gloomy under this transit, not seeing things clearly as they are until the tarnsit is over. If this is true, why is this also often associated with cheating? Men leaving wives would be one old-fashioned example. Why dooes the person leave their spouse under this transit? Is it because they are dissatisfied with them, unhappy etc? Or is it because they fall in love with somebody else? If the latter, then don't they feel the opposite of what they describe in the transit descriptions - happy, rather than sad?


Wow, I am so glad you asked this. For me, it was transit Neptune square my natal Venus. This feels very negative when you're going through it definitely, but now that I'm mostly through it, and I've had the chance to reflect deeply, I am very thankful for this time. I will tell you my story. Starting in September 2018 as I was recovering from cancer, transit Neptune in 15 degrees Pisces (11th house) was exactly squaring my natal Venus in Sagittarius (7th house) - so this had a lot to do with my love and friend relationships. This really made me go deep within and reflect on my emotional state especially in regards to my marriage of 10 years. I felt as though I was battling cancer completely alone and that my husband had checked out emotionally and was not supportive. For the next almost 2 years until July 2020, I went back and forth constantly on whether I should leave him or not. I had plans to do it. I wanted to but felt stuck (his Saturn is exactly conjunct my Sun down to the minute so this felt impossible). I was isolating myself. I was disillusioned in my friendships too and felt all my friends had disappeared or spent all their time complaining to me about their petty problems and no time spent supporting me or asking me how I was doing. I cut out about 4 friends from my life. My progressed moon was also going through my 12th so even more Neptunian energy.

Anyway, in February 2020 with tNeptune still squaring my Venus, I met a man that I fell madly in love with. We have a lot of Neptune in our synastry and composite. I have never been in a Neptune heavy relationship before - well more of a situationship really as we are both married and nothing has happened between us. I truly believe he is the love of my life. I was thisclose to having an affair but I made the right decision to stay faithful. I held this secret in for a while and then told my twin sister about it finally. The secret got out to our mutual friends as my brother in law told them. I was so furious with him that I haven't barely spoken to either of them in months. I then FINALLY asked my husband for a separation in July 2020 after almost 2 years of going back and forth. I laid out all my complaints that I'd been accruing over the previous 12 years. I expected him to show me the door but instead he begged me not to leave and we ended up reconciling and going to counseling. Now that Neptune is further away from my Venus, I feel our marriage is getting much much better and I finally feel optimistic that it will last. We are building our dream home together. I am still deeply in love with this other man though and am told I will be for a while. I'm just trying to learn to live with it, sadly.

My advice is to take this time for yourself and reflect deeply within on your life, relationships, dreams, etc. Pay attention to what houses transit Neptune and your natal Venus/Moon are in. Looking back, this was the most confusing time in my life with a lot of anguish, disappointment, disillusionment - but if you are strong enough to make some changes and you stay focused and know that it will pass - you'll come out stronger and more resilient than ever. Another tip, keep your secrets a SECRET! My secrets ended up being broadcast and I am so lucky my husband never found out. And DON'T have that affair - it will not end well.

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posted July 11, 2021 02:31 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for CapriciousCapricorn     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
AmberMoon,

Thank you for sharing such a personal experience with me. It really is such a good description of Neptune transit at work.

I asked because my ex will have this transit, not me. We had over 10 years of history together, after divorce, years later I gave him another chance, was ready to start a family with him. And then I found out he's married (back in his country) and his wife is 7 months pregnant. I never suspected a thing, trusted him compeletely. He assured me that marriage was a mistake and it's me he wants. When the child was born he left me and never came back.

I had ptsd after that, my health got worse, I never had children and now don't think I will be able to have one because my health is ruined, no friends because I spent all my time with him for all these years. I look at astrology, see those trasits and paint a horrible picture where he will potentially come back and then leave me once the transit is over, like I'm a mistake. I keep hoping for some justice, wishing he'll maybe feel sorry one day for leaving me for some woman. That she's a mistake, not me who's been there for him for years. I read your story and I feel happy for your husband, that you didn't leave him, that he had your loyalty and was treasured despite everything that happened throuhgout your relationship with him. I expected from my ex loyalty like that instead of cold betrayal.

His transits are Neptune squaring his natal Moon and Venus simultaneously (Moon in opposition to Venus in his natal chart).

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posted July 12, 2021 11:29 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Hikaru29     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I went through this transit 2-3yrs ago. Tr Neptune was squaring my 1H Venus and 7H Moon. I agree with AmberMoon that it’s a period of disillusionment and disappointment, also of love.

I fell in love when Tr Neptune was 2deg square my Venus. We were both Neptunian and had lotsa Neptune DW contacts in Synastry. There were disappointments in the beginning. I felt he wasn’t honest and his affection towards me was on/off… but I was madly attracted. I also got into some conflicts with other gals (because of him) and I felt betrayed because he didn’t stand up for me. When tr Neptune was 1deg square my Moon, we had a fight and broke up… but a month later we patched back, he changed and became committed… one thing he did to prove his commitment to me was he distanced those gals. We’re still together today.

I also met someone who pretended to be my friend. She appeared friendly but was secretly badmouthing me to everyone. When I found out I cut her off. The irony is she was the one who introduced me to my guy so he felt grateful to her even now.

My bestie’s boyfriend also mysteriously started attacking me for reasons unknown. I don’t care about him actually, just felt that the aggression and the ridiculous accusations he threw at me was uncalled for as I hardly even met him. What hurt and disappointed me was that my bestie tried to lie and cover up for him. This happened during the time I was having issues with my guy so it felt like I was betrayed by everyone close to me.

Then there was also this long-time friend who borrowed money from me and refused to pay back. I cut him off.

All in all I experienced a lot of lying, betrayal, disappointments.

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posted July 12, 2021 04:49 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for AmberMoon     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by CapriciousCapricorn:
AmberMoon,

Thank you for sharing such a personal experience with me. It really is such a good description of Neptune transit at work.

I asked because my ex will have this transit, not me. We had over 10 years of history together, after divorce, years later I gave him another chance, was ready to start a family with him. And then I found out he's married (back in his country) and his wife is 7 months pregnant. I never suspected a thing, trusted him compeletely. He assured me that marriage was a mistake and it's me he wants. When the child was born he left me and never came back.

I had ptsd after that, my health got worse, I never had children and now don't think I will be able to have one because my health is ruined, no friends because I spent all my time with him for all these years. I look at astrology, see those trasits and paint a horrible picture where he will potentially come back and then leave me once the transit is over, like I'm a mistake. I keep hoping for some justice, wishing he'll maybe feel sorry one day for leaving me for some woman. That she's a mistake, not me who's been there for him for years. I read your story and I feel happy for your husband, that you didn't leave him, that he had your loyalty and was treasured despite everything that happened throuhgout your relationship with him. I expected from my ex loyalty like that instead of cold betrayal.

His transits are Neptune squaring his natal Moon and Venus simultaneously (Moon in opposition to Venus in his natal chart).


Oh man, my heart breaks for you. That's really crappy, I don't blame you for having PTSD after that. It's so hard for me to tell you to get over that loser because I know that's A LOT easier said than done and I've been there. He sounds like he's going to be going through a REALLY rough transit for a few years with Neptune squaring his Moon AND Venus. I have a really bad feeling about it. In all honesty, I don't want you anywhere near him when he's going through it. I'm dead serious. I didn't know my a$$ from a whole in the ground when I was in the middle of this transit. I was so delusional about everything and soooo confused and over emotional. Please please don't get mixed up in that. You deserve better after all you've been through. He certainly will get his justice, please don't worry about that. This may very well be his karmic moment for hurting you and you should just let it all play out while you watch from a distance - with your bag of popcorn LOL. I worry about him developing an addiction to drugs or alcohol. Does he have any hard Neptune aspects in his natal?

With my husband and our relationship, I too am so glad I didn't act foolishly. I do have a good head on my shoulders and no hard Neptune aspects in my natal so I was able to eventually cut through the confusion and fantasy. I also don't have addiction tendencies but I can see how this transit would make you want to indulge in mind altering substances! I also had the added bonus of transit Uranus opposing all my 4 Scorpio planets - I can't believe I made it out alive haha! We have very strong synastry aspects that pretty much glue us together, and he actually turned from cold, distant and grumpy to a very tender and affectionate partner through all this. I had to speak up and demand better treatment though. Interestingly, transit Neptune was right on his Ascendant in Pisces during this so I believe this helped him evolve in a good way encompassing all the good Neptune qualities. That's why I now believe we will make it after all the instability we endured over the last few years - it has drawn us closer. Now I just have to get this stupid other guy out of my head!

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posted July 13, 2021 01:49 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for CapriciousCapricorn     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
AmberMoon,

Does he have a heavy Neptune? I guess. This is his chart.

http://imgur.com/a/o7EDmMe

I shouldn't want anything to do with him after what he's done to me but unfortunately I'm not at that stage yet, I'm still felling like a victim with broken self-esteem, faith and confidence. I hope one day I will be ok, at peace. Free of him in my head and free of ptsd. But for now verything just triggers me, especially when I see children, they remind me I won't have one and him talking to me for years he wants a child with me then dumping me as soon as he had one born with I don't even know who, proabbly happy playing with his child now.

I definitely don't want anything to do with him under Neptune transit, that's certain. I only have a hope I won't want him after that transit either. This whole thing happened to me with Neptune approaching the square to his Moon and Venus at 5 degrees orb in 2019. It will be exact from this year and active until spring 2023. So I was doing all these calculations to figure out whether he did what he did under Neptune influence or not. I'm under no illusion that he's just a bad person to put it mildly and that's the answer but when you have astrology for a hobby for good 20 years, you are bound to look for answers there too.

2022
tr. Neptune square n. Moon and Venus
tr. Saturn opposition n. Mercury

2023
tr. Neptune square n. Moon and Venus
tr. Saturn opposition n. Mercury
Saturn conjuncts Asc
tr. Uranus square n. Mercury
tr. Uranus opposition n. Saturn
Pluto enters 12th house
tr. Pluto opposition n. Mars

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posted July 13, 2021 01:56 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for CapriciousCapricorn     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hikaru29,

Thank you for sharing your story with us too. I appreciate it! Neptune does that, makes people fall in love. What's interesting is that I have met this person that I talk about under Neptune transit as well, 14 years ago. I guess I got duped. Neptune conjunct n. Moon, then n. Mars.

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posted July 13, 2021 02:26 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Hikaru29     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hey, I also have Moon conjunct Neptune opposite Venus in the same Sagittarius-Gemini axis.

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posted July 17, 2021 05:11 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for CapriciousCapricorn     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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