posted July 14, 2021 05:57 PM            

I was Pluto, he was Mars (oppose, less than 1°)

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Ok, I saw the thread and posts from Orange. It's nothing like that for us. In fact, I felt betrayed. His auntie disapprove of me and he took her side. Never trust him 100% since and I bounce back pretty quickly after we broke it off - because I knew this relationship metaphorically died a year before we split. I admit it was exceptionally hard but I made it out. I'm grateful for that.

A good friend and I had Mars/Pluto trine (less than 3°) didn't defend me. He took side with others while they tried to destroy me. Believe it or not, we have Venus/Pluto DW (Both less than 3°.

posted July 15, 2021 01:12 AM            

my mars square his pluto 2°07'
his mars conjunct my pluto 0°12'

we also have DW venus/pluto
my venus oppo his pluto 0°35'
his venus trine my pluto 1°45'

i have also had a wider DW mars/pluto with an ex (square 5°15'/conjunction 2°31') and it was violent and abusive. other aspects of not seeing eye to eye and not being able to communicate properly probably contributed a lot to the negative side of mars/pluto. the sex was not very good on my end. not exactly sexual tension either.. more about power, control and domination.

had a square 1°47' with another ex (also venus oppo pluto 0°15' and DW mars/venus) and not much sexual tension either. sex was almost abusive. the relationship itself was also violent/abusive and was about power and control.

posted July 15, 2021 10:38 PM            

It is a DW Mars/Pluto then. We have 5 years age gap.

He said that no one could tear us apart and called me as his soulmate. It ended up me reported him and it was the end of the relationship.

I met him at work, which later I found he already watched me during our quarantine before we officially put in our job desk. He chased me so hard but I rejected him numerous times because I didn't think about having a relationship. Until he started threatening my job which I guessed he knew it was my weak spot at time, so I accepted him.

My Moon conjunct his Sun and his Moon/Venus trine my Sun, I actually felt I found "him" because his sun energy was matched with my moon energy which I loved it. The beginning of our relationship was nice until his Mercury/Mars conjunction was too harsh for me and his Gemini moon was too everywhere, chatty/gossipy, and a very anxious energy to live with. The tension built up since I was popular around male coworkers at that time and I didn't give him the constant attention he wanted from me.

He started making a drama or maybe some would call it as "seeking attention" in an intense way whenever I asked for a break up. At first, he would crush his vehicles and acted like he injured to make me visit him so we didn't break up. Next, he wouldn't show up at work and texted other coworkers that he was sick and he need me, so I came to check him out and we didn't break up. The intense part was when I said I had enough of us, he called me to come for the last time to have some conversation about it, so I came and he locked himself at the bathroom while carrying a knife, he cried inside and told me he would kill himself if I kept asking for a break up and he acted like he already hurt himself inside to make me say "we won't break up". At that time I didn't know that he had already cheated on me.

We continued the relationship for the sake of he didn't harm himself anymore until I got weird dreams for weeks about him and the mysterious girl. I told him about it without any suspicious thought because I didn't believe "dream things" but it was so bizarre as it was a continues dream. Later when we were together, a message popped up in his phone, we both saw it and he couldn't hide it anymore. I offered him a clean break, that was the time I didn't saw it coming from him, the first physical abuse happened. I also found he was actually very jealous and possessive. He raped me to keep me because I was virgin at that time and wanted to keep it till marriage. He intimidated me at work whenever he felt ignored, following me when I went out from the room office. He started trying to control me like I need his permission. It was all too much for me and of course I refused to follow which triggered him.

Intense? What do you think? The physical abuse got worse each week and he started look like he enjoyed it as I didn't fight him back, not even crying or screaming at him. What I did just trying to escape through the door or windows or just covering my head if I couldn't find a way to escape. I knew he felt frustrated to keep me stay but we couldn't and shouldn't continue the relationship.

Sex? Hmm.. I can't say it was the best or the worst. I just can say the sexual attraction was there and it was him who was very attracted to me in a sexual way because I was into spiritual things at that time so...

Argument? Rare. Why? Because I had a tendency to avoid conflict the best I could. It was his Mercury/Mars conjunction who wanted to argue each time, which we can call it as "wanting stimulation" but in an aggressive way. I either annoyed him with refusing to join as I knew where it would go or if he pushed me too far he would smile admiring me or couldn't say anything anymore with my statement that ended the argument-he-wanted-to-be-last-long.

People know about it? No. I wasn't a type telling anyone about what was going on in my relationship if I was still in that relationship at that time (which then I have learned, if it becomes dangerous I need to tell someone). Some people would jealous of our relationship that looked like we were hot couple and fine. Our relationship was always the center of attention because I was popular at that time, like I got the most voted from male co-workers which was very embarrassing moment actually because I didn't realize it. To this days, none of my friends or co-workers knows our relationship dynamic, they only know we were breaking up in the past because he was cheating with our co-worker.

The relationship leave me some traumatic feeling because the story is actually longer than that.

3 years I didn't want to be in any relationship, I thought I would be single forever and was okay with it until I met my now husband (Gemini sun) who I have Mars/Pluto trine in synastry (he is the Mars) and the story continues almost the same...

I thought maybe I have karmic ties with Gemini energy and/or the universe wants me to learn something in a hard way as I had a tendency to avoid conflict the best I could, and had problem to open-up and to tell what I feel (prob this is Aqua influence).

My husband is threaten me to put me in "a coma", if I dare to sign divorce paper. He once told me that he wanted to tie me up and lock me in so I didn't go to anywhere. We also have Venus/Pluto trine (I'm the venus btw).

He threatened to murder me in the past where we were in a very intense situation: he got caught cheating with his ex and I tried to find her to know the truth because he kept lying to me to avoid breaking up with me.

We have some physical abuse moment too but less intense than with the ex, but, yeah, I usually the one who want to end things, it triggers the whole ugly things.

Mars/Pluto story. I know, because the anger energy, actions, and the feeling around it, is different.

posted July 15, 2021 11:10 PM            

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Originally posted by plutonianmenace:
I am thinking squares are what lead to the bad sex

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maybe. i can kinda see how the energies would clash sexually. not sure if the exes actually thought it was good or bad. they wanted it all the time though and were especially turned on after conflict (which was probably all the time). they got off, i didnt. i didnt want it so i would try to deny them and they wanted it more. it became their only focus and they would try to get it through manipulation or force.

posted July 20, 2021 05:40 AM            

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Originally posted by Sauerkraut:
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they wanted it all the time though and were especially turned on after conflict (which was probably all the time). they got off, i didnt. i didnt want it so i would try to deny them and they wanted it more. it became their only focus and they would try to get it through manipulation or force.

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Yes to Mars/Pluto synastry of my experience too.

If you like that dynamic, you might enjoy that relationship, which for me, I don't (maybe because my focus on spiritual relationship).

posted July 21, 2021 11:49 AM            

There's definitely a lack of inhibitions on both sides that's very unique to this aspect and the sex is pretty fantastic most of the time, so I don't think squares always lead to tension in a bad way. We have such a strong mutual desire for each other that we've pulled a 'Let's scrap our plans and stay in bed for the afternoon' before. Lol

posted August 03, 2021 08:05 PM            

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Originally posted by Spearmintrhino:
I have this with my guy, I'm Pluto conjunct his mars at 0 degrees.
We love hard and fight even harder, then makeup even harder than ever before. It's intense, full-on, addictive, seductive, and obsessive.
We are both natally heavy pluto so we are intense anyway. His natal Venus square pluto rears its ugly head every now and then and we can have some power issues where neither of us back down but we have learnt to talk it out now, but it took some time. Communication is key as there is nowhere to hide with this aspect you're forced to be honest and upfront about everything.
It's very raw and animalistic like two lions that can just sense everything about each other.
The sex is insane, it's very violent and crazy but it's what we like. I actually really love this aspect in a romantic sexual relationship.

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posted August 04, 2021 01:49 AM            

My guy and I have Pluto square Mars (1deg) and Pluto quincunx Mars (0deg) DW.

He says he has the best sex with me and I feel the same. It’s addictive and possessive therefore jealousy is a possibility. It doesn’t mean it’s just sex between us. This is just ONE out of the many Synastry aspects we share. We don’t engage in rough sex. It’s always intensely emotionally and honest between us, maybe because we’re both water Mars who don’t like sex without emotions and Pluto just makes it deeper Iike we wanna possess each other in all kinds of ways. It feels very clingy due to this.

We’re never violent with each other, not even with his natal Pluto square Mars. People say this indicates an abuser but he has been the sweetest (and most present) to me compared to all my exes.

posted August 04, 2021 05:07 AM            

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Originally posted by Hikaru29:
My experience is similar to oceansofstars’.

My guy and I have Pluto square Mars (1deg) and Pluto quincunx Mars (0deg) DW.

He says he has the best sex with me and I feel the same. It’s addictive and possessive therefore jealousy is a possibility. It doesn’t mean it’s just sex between us. This is just ONE out of the many Synastry aspects we share. We don’t engage in rough sex. It’s always intensely emotionally and honest between us, maybe because we’re both water Mars who don’t like sex without emotions and Pluto just makes it deeper Iike we wanna possess each other in all kinds of ways. It feels very clingy due to this.

We’re never violent with each other, not even with his natal Pluto square Mars. People say this indicates an abuser but he has been the sweetest (and most present) to me compared to all my exes.

This aspect can be a problem if you get into stupid jealousy games because it’s so intense that loyalty is expected. If one partner is childish and selfish, it can turn ugly because any sign of betraying the relationship will be magnified. If you have this aspect with someone, make sure both your hearts are coming from good places.

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Yes, that's so true I feel if you arent in a secure place in the relationship the worst aspects of Pluto will be seen.

I find the whole pluto square mars being connected to being violent is like saying all people sexually abused will go on to be abusers. Personally, knowing many that have gone through that type of trauma it is the furthest thing from the truth.

posted August 04, 2021 09:04 AM            

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Originally posted by Spearmintrhino:
Yes, that's so true I feel if you arent in a secure place in the relationship the worst aspects of Pluto will be seen.

I find the whole pluto square mars being connected to being violent is like saying all people sexually abused will go on to be abusers. Personally, knowing many that have gone through that type of trauma it is the furthest thing from the truth.

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We need to have already faced our own demons or we will project it onto our partners because it’s so tempting.

You said ”We love hard and fight even harder, then makeup even harder than ever before.” and I relate much to this. Everytime after a fight we became closer, not that we love to fight… I think Pluto triggers the dark feelings in us (sensitive, jealous, possessive). I wasn’t like this before, neither was he with his exes. Like you said, there’s a need to talk it out. On the flip side, the possessiveness also triggers protectiveness and we’re very much so with each other.

The criticism on natal Pluto square Mars individuals honestly surprised me. I’m close to several people with this aspect (my guy, my childhood friend, my aunt, a friend I’ve known for 20yrs, another friend I’ve known for 3yrs…). I’ve never witnessed violence from them, not even close. My aunt was in fact physically and mentally abused by her sister when young, made her suicidal and forced her to leave the family. The experience haunted her for life but she was never abusive to us kids. In fact, she hates it when she witnesses bullying.

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Personally, I have noticed in my own private life guys I've known with Pluto squaring Venus have lost their power somehow in childhood. Possibly died a violent death in a past life and they bring those power issues and struggles into this life. That seems to be a major theme with men I date anyway.

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