posted August 03, 2021 03:56 AM            

I remember bout a year ago, or whenever these 2 got together, I had read an article where Megan fox called MGK her twin flame & naturally I took an interest. My 1st reaction was to roll my eyes but once I got past that moment of self hate or w/e & checked myself I did what anyone else would do and ran their charts.

I had never really believed there was a way to ID a twin flame relationship using astrology. I have somewhat learned throughout the years to ID karmic relationships vs soulmate relationships using astrology. But even then it's an educated guess at the end of the day. I was at a loss with TF relationships thouvb, I had no clue where to begin since they are far and few & I wasn't sure what indicators to look for. Especially since the nature is so bizarre. It is difficult if not impossible to put any type of relationship in a group as it is.

In the past I had done some research online on TF indicators in the charts every now and then but the sources I came across were...what is a good word? Shallow and uneducated I guess. It would be like "If your an aries your TF would be either a Sagittarius or a Leo. Your TF cant be a cancer, Capricorn or libra because you don't get along with those signs so be sure to avoid them! But if you are an aries ready to find your TF, then go and swipe right on those fire signs!" Just corny ass garbage you'd expect to find in cosmo or some gossip rag. Just a bunch of misinformation & cliche love aspects like mars and Venus conjunctions...only conjunctions though. You wouldn't believe how many sources focus almost entirely on that aspect alone. Which in my personal experience was quite overrated. The relationship lasted about a month..was incredibly intense initially. But burned out as quickly as it started. I considered it a karmic as it was a rebound. Not sure how much of that is relevant but to get back to my point. I ran into alot of nonsense so I really didn't expand on that search.

Anyways...about 2 years ago while on a completely unrelated topic I unintentionally stumbled across a website with something about twin flame synastry. I didn't expect much due to past reads but right away I knew this person's insight was well worth the read. For 1 you could tell she had invested more than a few hours studying astrology before recording her thoughts. & 2 she was very clearly in a TF relationship by the way she spoke. She had a firm grasp on what the true nature and reasoning for the union. She understood that the least important (although most desired) is the physical component. I see that is more or less a driving force.

She went into the importance of pluto & neptune & the role they play in a TF relationship. I met my TF in person the 1st week of 2016. It has taken pretty much that entire time to allow myself to fully accept what we are. Some prior scarring coupled with the overwhelming intensity between us terrified me to the core. Not including anything but planets/asc & chiron there are 14 pluto aspects in our synastry. & 11 neptune (12 with chiron) then my juno is exact my Neptune so I'm sure that can be tossed in the mix. Scorpio is the heart of our chart.

After having read what this lady had written on TF synastry I felt I had more of a foundation and proof in my own experience 1st hand. I conducted more thorough searches and found some more hidden gems. I ran a few synastry charts of famous twin flames (I cannot recall who's exactly. It was 2 years ago & some of the people I didn't even know) but I was more or less looking at their planets, I didn't care who they were very much at the time. Can't remember much about neptune but pluto was very active in all of the charts I ran. There was a mixture of hard and soft aspects but all had pluto square with personal planets, namely venus. All if not most had either a square or conjunction between those 2 planets.

For the record I am not a fan of placing labels on relationships as an indicator of the type of soul bond it is. Truth is as long as both people are happy it really doesn't matter. I don't go around telling people if I think they are with a karmic or whatever. Unless they were to ask but no one does that. I never see twins, karmic couples are everywhere. However in the somewhat rare event I am in the presence of soulmates I will sometimes give them a sweet compliment because it is nice energy to be around. I often learn a little being around them. But ultimately all love relationships are the same thing really. Same end game. We all just play a little different. But for entertainment & educational purposes it is fun to dissect the dynamics of relationships. And for the sake of my topic it is alot easier.

The first place I looked at in Megan & MGK synastry was pluto & he is definitely up to something. Neptune isn't shy either. Their synastry backs up the intensity the two of them have each separately commented on at sometime or another. The attraction isn't a mystery. It seems rather rough to me. Like the aspects seem somewhat unstable if that makes sense. It's understandable they feel a strong connection but messy is the word I think I am looking for.

With pluto, there are 3 double whammys. Both trine the others Jupiter, they are in opposition to each other's sun & both have an easy aspect to mars. Fox's pluto appears to be the stronger one of the 2 though. His makes me think if under the right circumstances could cause the most destruction. His Pluto also squares her moon & opposes her mercury while sextiling her ascendant. Pluto can make the best of us feel jealous and possessive given the chance. The moon square I can't even imagine how it is going to play out with these two. IMO that is where the heart of this relationship is located. A TF must be willing to confront their shadow & this aspect is one that will make sure of it. I think it all depends on how the person is capable of handling its intensity. Idk MGK other than the limited articles I have read regarding him & fox. But from what I have gathered is that he is a supposedly recovered or recovering addict. Having struggled with addiction more than half of my life I can tell you what any therapist/psychiatrist will tell you and that is addiction, more specifically addicts that began as a teenager end up stunting their emotional growth which kind of stays at that age (lets say 16) until that person is willing to address it. That part of the brain/psyche is still developing up until I want to say 24 or 25. So this guy is likely stuck somewhere in his late teens emotionally. I recently clicked on some article about her complaining that people gave her **** for their 4 year age difference. She made a comment somewhere in there about him living like he is 19 all of his life. Not in a derogatory way, she just kind of said it as a response or something. But either way with a strong pluto plus having his harshly aspecting her mercury (miscommunications) & moon he very well may reveal an uglier side of himself. Especially if he no longer feels like he has any control in the relationship. Like if she ever decides to leave the relationship he would probably be less than happy about it. On top of it her moon also squares his mercury.

Idk...there is alot going on in their synastry. I haven't analyzed it all but from what I have seen so far it seems like he might be the one feeling the true intensity of a TF more so than her IMO. I have no idea what his opinions are of a TF relationship but I am using the term TF more so referring to the intensity of it. Idk him or how he might understand or react to it.

I didn't really check out the composite chart yet but I'd be interested to hear thoughts on both.

Synastry:
http://imgur.com/a/6ZPCzqM

Composite:
http://imgur.com/a/3B7J752

posted August 04, 2021 09:32 AM              

I only know a few couples that I'm more certain than not are twin soul connections.

There doesn't seem to be "one aspect" that correlates to this, but rather an overall larger pattern.

Usually opposite Signs (especially), and same Signs show up between the different and most highlighted symbols in their chart. Particularly two that seem to show more (so far), are Sun being the opposite Sign of the others Rising, and/or the Sun being the opposite Sign of the others Moon. (But Sun being the same Sign as the other's Rising or Moon seems common too).

But the entire synastric charts are filled up with these opposite and same Signs between different symbols, with either the personal symbols or the most highlighted ones.

It makes sense, because twin souls tend to be both very different in some ways, and yet in a core way, very similar (like similar deeper ideals, and deeper similar wavelength).

But just because two people may have such a pattern in their chart, doesn't necessarily mean they are twin souls. Particularly close relationships in general, tend to share this pattern to some extent.

It just seems more numerous and intense in twin soul connections.

It's a common misconception that we only ever have one twin soul connection. Our Expanded self level, the part of us that creates us individual Souls, can and often lately does project multiple parts of itself (i.e. us/our Souls) into the same space/time cycle.

So if your Expanded self, and your companionate twin flame Expanded self, both do this, there is a possibility/potential to meet more than one twin soul in that life. For example, my partner who is definitely my twin soul, has met at least another twin soul besides me.

In fact, well after they parted ways (years later), I said to her one day out of the blue, "I think David and I might be part of the same Expanded self." She didn't think so, and was skeptical. But then awhile later, she had a guidance dream confirming that what I said was true, David and I came from the same Expanded self. And interestingly, he was one of the few guys that she had a crush on, that I felt very little in the way of jealously or insecurity, and more so, he was one of the few guys that I actually approved of.

And Expanded selves can have a number of it's Soul selves incarnated in this same space/time cycle. It seems to be happening more lately because Expanded selves are trying to maximize experience while there are so many bodies available and because in the near to nearish future, there will be many less bodies available.

posted August 04, 2021 10:46 AM            

I’ve always felt that my guy is a male version of me though we have very few conjunctions/oppositions in Synastry other than our ASC-DSC/IC-MC oppositions, Sun-Mars opposition, Saturn-Mars conjunction, Chiron-Sun conjunction and an almost out of orb Moon-Pluto conjunction. These will normally not be considered TF potential. Most of what we have between planets are trines & sextiles. We have lotsa asteroids oppositions though, it’s weird (Junos opposite, Valentines opposite, Karmas opposite, Destinns opposite etc) and mirroring natal aspects and draconic-tropical signs.

Still, I feel that he understands and gets me more than the guy I’ve a Sun-Moon conjunction with and definitely much better than my ex whose Sun conjunct my DSC/NN. Go figure. What I’m trying to say is it’s sometimes hard to explain feelings and connection using astrology.

posted February 13, 2023 10:06 AM            

He seems mushy and soft, emotional and angsty. She looks stoic and kind of superficial (maybe due to her cap rising and leo moon).

Too much moisture and too much fire are never meant to last. sigh. but who knows, maybe they'll get back together.

posted February 13, 2023 08:15 PM            

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Originally posted by girlwiththerainysoul:
Even though both are Taurus suns, their characters always looked like total opposites to me.

He seems mushy and soft, emotional and angsty. She looks stoic and kind of superficial (maybe due to her cap rising and leo moon).

Too much moisture and too much fire are never meant to last. sigh. but who knows, maybe they'll get back together.

Edit: I accidentally put a thumbs up and am unable to edit it

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posted February 14, 2023 11:25 AM            

If twin flames exist, they are two very evolved, mature souls. I’m sure Megan and MGK are lovely people, but they don’t exactly scream “mature, spiritual souls wanting to serve their community and God.”

Their actions were not those of twin flames. The entire thing about a studded engagement ring, or mixing their blood, seemed very obsessive and unhealthy. Passion and intensity does not equal love, passion and intensity do not equal twin flames.

I disagree about the importance of Neptune and Pluto in Twin Flame charts. Maybe some is necessary, but if there is a lot of them, believe what you see. It’s not a twin flame relationship, it’s a heavy neptune/Pluto relationship. I think there’s a very large issue online with people deep in obsessive relationships trying to convince themself they are a twin flame. You’re not, it’s Pluto.

That being said, they had good connections- Moon conjunct SN and Sun conjunct NN, conjunct Mercuries, Venus conjunct Jupiter.

If their ascendants are correct, Vertex conjuncts Pluto too.

Also composite vertex conjuncts descendant. Composite 8H Pluto makes a huge opposition to their (Nice) 2H stellium.

posted February 15, 2023 01:30 PM            

If there is a strong Pluto, the intensity is caused by Pluto! Yes, twin flames cause each other to transform, but there's no obsession or periods of deep, relentless longing. THAT'S ALL PLUTO. Twin Flames feel a connection, but without the "cannot focus on anything else" part.

You can have a deep, soulful bond with someone that causes your spirituality to blossom. That isn't reserved for twin flames.
I had my Pluto moment, rock bottom, when I was obsessed with someone unavailable that I thought was perfect for me. NN/Vertex DW. It didn't work out but I promise you that encounter transformed me to my core and caused my entire relationship with God to grow, blossom, flourish in ways it would never had that not happened. This person is not my Twin Flame.

For something so rare, its wild so many people online claim to be one. I truly believe most people are in plutonic relationships, and that Pluto is an indication of Pluto.