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Sauerkraut
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posted September 25, 2021 05:24 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Sauerkraut     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
what would the influence be like in a composite with moon (12th) and pluto (9th) as the base, and sun conjunct mercury (5th) as the finger?

is this a positive, negative or neutral influence? is it similar to a regular yod?

i would theorize that it would generally be positive because quintiles and bi-quintiles symbolize creative talents in a natal chart, but not sure how it plays out in a composite chart.

sun conjunction mercury 0°48'
sun bi-quintile pluto 0°46'
sun bi-quintile moon 0°09'
mercury bi-quintile pluto 0°01'
mercury bi-quintile moon 0°38'
moon quintile pluto 0°37'

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posted September 27, 2021 01:22 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for HeavenlyLove     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I'm not a very experienced astrologer, but I was always interested in aspect-figures,
specially triangles, so I'll give it a try :

I guess it depends on the level of evolvement of each individual within the couple,
how they choose to use their free will,
how they influence eachother (other aspects) and work together.
Signs and houses can add some information ofcourse.

In the worst case they might use their talents and possibilities as a couple with the help of a disturbed, oversenstive Moon and a blind, self-protective, sneaky Pluto
to reach goals of unevolved, selfish Sun and deceiting, sarcastic Mercury ?

In the best case they could maybe use a warmhearted, caring, balanced, healthy Moon
and a deepgoing, passionate, daring, psychologically evolved and therapeutic Pluto
to reach goals of shining Devine light of the Sun on matters of open, honest, evolved communication, for the evolution of humanity,
for example ?

So far I have seen only the postive variations, but as I said, I'm not that experienced, please correct me in any point if necessary.

Here is an example of an unevolved use of golden yods :
http://chirotic.com/2008/07/10/hitler-and-the-golden-yod/

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posted September 30, 2021 04:17 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Sauerkraut     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
thanks heavenlylove. no correcting from me, just trying to understand more. you mentioned "for the evolution of humanity", is that interpreted from the symbolism of a yod in general? would you postulate the energy generated be utilized for humanity as a whole or could it also be for self-serving purposes within the partnership?

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posted October 01, 2021 05:51 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for HeavenlyLove     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I will have a look this weekend, I have this with somebody I know, maybe with others.
In my natal chart I have some different triangle-figures.
Look for an opposition-point and other aspects to the figure.
An opposition-point is a planet, angle, other point or asteroid at the opposite side of the point of the 'fingertip'.

That would be the source of the drive and ambition to reach the goal in the tip in any triangle-figure, according to what I saw clairvoyantly about them in general.

In my own natal I can percieve myself standing there at the opposition-points of some triangles, full of fire in my heart, to work for certain goals.
The bigger/more important the planets/points of the figure/opposition-points, the stronger the fire in my heart.
I guess I'm feeling specially Pluto right now (I have it at the bases and opposition-points of different triangles).
I must look up my other planets and points in triangles, and feel into them, they feel a bit different, but a triangle with opposition-point will always have that source of drive/ambition/goals somehow.

I can imagine, the golden yod could be used for the benefit of all there is, even beyond humanity, or for purposes within the relationship and everything inbetween.
If they are able to use their talents as a couple for the good of others, it will automatically help that couple as well, I guess.

But I am not a professional astrologer, have never seen charts of hundreds of clients.
And I could use also some more information about golden yods in general, the occult powers (positive and negative) of pentagon-figures and the meaning of
different sorts of interpersonal charts.
I mainly look at synastries and Davison charts yet.

Pluto as a part of the base of a triangle-figure can help the evolution of something/even whole humanity/existence, depending on free will, the goals, signs... and last not least the house-positions of the whole figure.
But even without much of such a goal - everything, that helps the evolution of just a tiny thing, will evolve everything as a whole, sometimes in unexpected ways/to unexpected degrees.
The intentions connect with spiritual powers/forces/beings, so they are very important for the result and everybody is responsible and will be held accountable for his/her choices.
Sorry for English mistakes and the warning Sag-finger ☝️😁

I will try to find out more about interpersonal golden yods at the weekend.


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posted October 01, 2021 09:24 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for HeavenlyLove     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I just realized, that I was not thinking thoroughly enough about what you really wanted to know.

The meaning of a yod in general is one point, with OR without opposition-point.
Which goals of which figures/yods are directed to which target group/area of life...

Then the definition of a yod is important, I was talking about different 'triangle-figures'.
There are many, specially if you work also with aspects/-figures, which are not used by all astrologers.

I can only speak about some own experiences (I hope to contribute as much as I can and should to the benefit/evolution of humanity and beyond that, have clear goals.
Plus I could see in different interpersonl charts, that I have worked together with those people for those goals for the benefit of groups/peoples/humanity in past lives)

and some visions about triangle-figures in general (which some advanced/professional astrologers could agree on/liked),

but it's not an 'exact science' ofcourse, so hard to get perfect proof for anything about astrology in this earthly realm...

I'll dig/read into these questions as well...
I would like to contribute to make astrology as much an 'exact science' as possible.
But I know, I have too many goals, (triangles and Sag ♐-forces),
must reduce them to the most important ones...

So many yods/triangles, specially with opposition-points, even combined with ♐,
can mean too many goals.
So I'll better not promise to dig in those questions at the weekend 😁

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posted October 07, 2021 09:19 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for mercurialaries     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I would probably say that the golden yod indicates that as a couple you may have a specific creative mission. I say mission because like you mentioned, quintiles point to talent, so a golden yod is that same talent, but concentrated toward a specific area. Would definitely say this is a dynamic but positive configuration!

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posted October 17, 2021 05:48 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Randall     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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posted November 01, 2021 07:19 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Sauerkraut     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by HeavenlyLove:

So I'll better not promise to dig in those questions at the weekend 😁

haha i have a huge sag influence in my chart also. i understand this and everything else you wrote quite deeply. all information i didnt know i wanted to know, all valuable, nothing of waste.

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Originally posted by HeavenlyLove:

I can imagine, the golden yod could be used for the benefit of all there is, even beyond humanity, or for purposes within the relationship and everything inbetween.
If they are able to use their talents as a couple for the good of others, it will automatically help that couple as well, I guess.

at a quick glance with the golden yod in question, uranus is at the opposition point (2-3°). that finger is in exact conjunction to the chiron in the natal chart of one person, at 26° taurus where algol also resides. is this potential for the yod to go “bad”? how would algol play a part here? how would the yod influence the chiron person? ahhhh just more questions, astrology - the gift that keeps on giving..

p.s. sorry, i have been going through some stuff and have not had the energy to respond for awhile.. i appreciate the comments (and bumps).

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posted November 03, 2021 10:21 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for HeavenlyLove     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
You've come to the right person, babe

I'm the self declared Algol-touching-anything-specialist here.... 💀 👀 😱

😁 Have some placements myself and related memories about past lives.
May I ask if you are the one with the Chiron, because in that case I'd have to be much more careful, because of possibly hurtful (unconcious) memories.
Does any of you two recall anything about past lives together ?

But don't worry, you have always your free will and I feel it's something from the past, which you both are now able (creative talent) to solve together,
and maybe even let others benefit from your work on that issue,
let it shine (quintiles: pentagram, golden, number 5, Leo, Sun) in every direction.

May I ask about the houses of everything and exact degrees of Uranus in the composite, Chiron in that birth chart, Algol in both charts (it was not exactly were it is now, even fixed stars move) and aspects to it, Star Regulus, Saturns, south nodes, asteroids 3811 Karma, 157 Dejanira, 5457 Queens, 4227 Kaali, 149 Medusa, 2305 King, Regina, 1582 Martir, 9499 Excalibur. 69230 Hermes.
Best would be the whole charts ofcourse, also synastry and Davison.

I'm glad that I could help a bit in the last post, thanks for telling me 🙂, but I will have not that much time in the near future.
Anyway I'm not that experienced with astrology yet, except for some specific areas.
But in this case I guess I know what it could be...
The motivation in the golden yod of the composite seems to be change, something revolutionary, as a couple you are gifted to make it happen, but one of you ...oh, while typing this I got the idea, that there could even be something risky in this incarnation, depends how you choose to live the yod...just tell me as much as you feel comfortable with...

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posted November 03, 2021 11:22 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for HeavenlyLove     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I just realized, that I'm not really happy with my last post, I wasn't thorough enough because of a lack of time and my visual impairment, I loose the overview in long threads/texts sometimes...
And I don't even know all the possible areas of relevance and different possible effects of yods and composites yet...😁😚

But in this case I do have a guess at least.
I can tell you even without the additional info, but then just tell me if you are the one with the Chiron please....

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posted November 03, 2021 08:20 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Sauerkraut     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
o wow. i am not the chiron person. ..will post more when i get on a computer.

i appreciate anything you share with me! the way you write really resonates with me and puts me in a good mood too. is your mercury in sag? its like you have given me a bunch of good ingredients for a delicious soup. even if you dont have time to help me with the recipe, i can still throw all the ingredients together and come up with something tasty enough. sorry i am hungry lol.

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posted November 04, 2021 04:36 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Sauerkraut     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
about past lives.. i do not consciously remember anything and im not sure if he does either. we dont talk about this kinda stuff in depth so i dont know. we are both too private about this side of life (easier online for me but still a work in progress).

when we first met, his energy was familiar to me while his earthly flesh self was foreign to me. when i connected to the higher realms, i saw our higher selves watching us in amusement like some old home movie - amused that we were a mess in the material world, like some sort of divine comedy - with this incarnation as the beginning of our journey. like we had future lives together but not past.. i dont see time in a linear way, so it could be the past i suppose.

composite:


dejanira 7°19 pisces - quintile venus, opposite mars

natal for chiron:
[X]
dejanira 14°26 pisces - quintile algol and chiron, square venus, trine sun and north node

synastry:
[X]

natal for me:
[X]
algol 25°52 rx - sextile mars, square saturn

davison (corrected):
[X]
regulus 29°33 rx

how have you dealt with your memories? if you dont mind sharing..

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posted November 04, 2021 09:07 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for HeavenlyLove     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Wow, I'm seeing so much, but don't how to type it all, lacking time and eyesight...
Are you working on something together, of which the contents or the results could be seen by others in the near future ?
And in case yes, could it be postponed a bit until the charts are completely analysed ?
Or is that not part of the relationship at the moment ?
Meanwhile you could maybe read the thread 'possible past life chart ?', just scroll down a bit here...there is something about Algol I wrote, but it's not always that dramatic...
I wanted to see King, Queen...because ....eyes need break...

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posted November 05, 2021 04:00 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for HeavenlyLove     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Do you happen to be awake ? We could exchange email adresses and then delete it again, I'll be here and look often if you're here...
These issues with Algol tend to be complicated and private, and with my eye sight problem talking would be better...

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posted November 05, 2021 09:07 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for HeavenlyLove     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Meanwhile here the link I also posted in the other thread about Algol in general :

http://astrologyking.com/algol-star/

Asteroid Medusa is named after the decapitated head of Medusa in the Perseus constellation, the star Algol is located there and also named after it.

They both seem to be able to tell the whole story about what happened in past lives of some people or could happen in the worst case.
Ofcourse in our time decapitation is not very likely to happen anymore in most countries, but it could also express itself in other ways - like always in astrology.
For example being fired (heads will be rolling symbolically), attacked in different ways, injuries/attacks to the neck or head maybe...just guessing...

In my chart and the one in the other thread the placements of Medusa and Algol in signs and houses and their aspects (there were more than I wrote about there) were telling/confirming everything.
The chart of that past life and what had happend there was already known for a fact by history and her and my perceptions/signs/synchronicity and then just confirmed by the placements.

In my case I had perceived my past life years ago and later learned about fixed stars and asteroids...
My own experience back then was not nearly as traumatic as hers (but still enough to leave some unconcious fears/trauma), even had some gallow humour in it on my side.
I was a court jester (lots of Sag here) who's joke was (intentionally for a good cause) going too far in the eyes of the king, who felt threatened by the truth, although I had hoped to even help him to develop, also wanted to help others (the court and the country) who suffered from him.
The joke was actually meant lovingly, but he was afraid of love and the truth, couldn't laugh about himself.
He was my best friend and I was also his advisor in that life and we had been happily married long before that in ancient India, 🙏🧞👳🌴🕌 where he was still very soft and compassionate, also a king...I met him in this life as well and he apologised, which was very healing for me.

I wanted to see the asteroids and Regulus related to royalty, because often only they could sentence somebody to death from decapitation, unless they became victims themselves.

There is one possible part of your both's story, specially of your friend, that might be too private for here...

Need break for eyes...

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posted November 05, 2021 07:55 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Sauerkraut     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
aww rest your eyes. care.. eyes are important. more eye breaks are good. my eyes have been really weird since may. thought i was going blind.. finally went to eye doc last week and found out it was just a little bit of astigmatism, eyes getting older but mostly it is eye strain/dry eyes (which can cause permanent damage if left untreated!). rest rest rest, good for your eyes.. computer glasses, artificial tears with no preservatives maybe can help too.

really no rush. we are not working on any projects together at the moment. i suspect we will in the future but not anytime soon. i am slowly learning how to code and program, while he already knows a lot. we are not showing our creativity with each other yet (painful process) - the 5th harmonic thing between us baffles me.

just read the past life thread.. very interesting. thanks. i have a bunch of errands to run today, maybe we can exchange emails later if you are around again..

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posted November 05, 2021 08:58 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for HeavenlyLove     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I'm in 🇪🇺... falling 😴
But I'm up earlier therefore, but since there is no urgengy...we'll see when we are both here... 😴😴😴😴😴😴

Just looked this up for the 'star'-thread actually. Look at her Algol and what happened, but as I said, not always that dramatic :


http://www.astro.com/astro-databank/Diana,_Princess_of_Wales

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posted November 06, 2021 02:45 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Sauerkraut     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
oh okay. PST/GMT -8 here but sleep schedule is all over the place. i will try to be around when you are awake.. no urgency but very interested about algol and what you see, just not at the cost of health or stress. i looked at dianas chart and not sure how to tie algol in.. thought the death was largely due to her mars in 8th.

hmm could you give me more clues lol? were we bad people, good people? past life enemies or friends? how will the past affect this life? i am pretty comfortable with the dark side of life and am okay with you sharing what you see here - but if being here is affecting your eyes, i can wait until we connect.

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posted November 06, 2021 03:14 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for HeavenlyLove     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Good morning, are you there or 😴 ?

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posted November 06, 2021 03:46 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for HeavenlyLove     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Just saw you posting something in astrology 2.0, are you there

It's not about being good or bad, astrology can't see that, because no placement makes a person doomed to be bad, you have always free will and the opportunity to live everything on a highly evolved level, at least that is my experience and what I read so far.
Although some placements are much harder to live on higher levels than others.

Also you could be the 'bad guy' or the victim regarding a difficult placement.
Or it just expresses some obstacles or blind spots in conciousness/life, having nothing to do with moral questions.

That's why you always have to ask the chart owner a lot while analysing...

You can always see whole stories in charts, based on the statistical likelyhood of the levels, precise areas and ways of living each placement. And mostly I can combine that with some psychic perceptions.

Post is not finished, must correct last sentence and add later.

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posted November 06, 2021 12:56 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for HeavenlyLove     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Maybe my eyesight is not the only problem, but that I don't believe in myself, like discribed at the end of this description of the sesquiquadrate (135°, friction), which your friend has between his Neptune/Excalibur and his King/Martir.

I am perceiving something, seeing it also in the chart, but don't trust it.
I have asteroid (doubting) Thomas exactly on my Neptune (spirituality, clairvoyance...).

http://www.quora.com/What-is-the-sesquiquadrate-aspect-in-astrology

That sesquiquadrate has, if you look at the distance between King and Excalibur, an orb of 1°13'.
So it looks as if he was in some kind of martyr-position as a king, the orb between King and Martir is very tight.

I am seeing clairvoyantly some kind of conflict about his birth right to be a king...

He has his Excalibur (the chosen one, only the born king could draw the mighty sword out of the rock) exactly on Neptune,
like I have my Thomas exactly on my Neptune.
Must think, how to compare both situations to be able to understand his situation more.

I feel your friend is the most vulnerable concerning possible risks of the golden yod, I guess mainly/specially caused by people outside your relationship, so I'm starting there....

Distance from south node (past lives) to Regulus (king-star, royalty) is 133°46', that's also a 135° sesquiquadrate, orb 1°14'.
The other one was 136°13' with 1°13' orb, not knowing the seconds, it could be even closer, how special.

The distance between Excalibur and Martir is 136°27'.
Both Martir and King are also quite exactly between 135° and 137°30', the latter is a golden mean.

http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=SBNGHIwfFmA

Like explained in the video the golden mean is an expression of something absolutely naturally flowing, effortless because grown and belonging together like the inner pattern of something, for example hexagones to a honeycomb.

So he as the chosen one/king (Excalibur) has this golden mean slightly only
(orb should actually be not much wider than 1° I read) to King, but more to Martir.
For King the friction is stronger than the golden mean, for Martir the other way round.

need break, will continue in this post, read again after I wrote that it's finished.

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posted November 07, 2021 04:08 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for HeavenlyLove     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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posted November 07, 2021 04:41 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Sauerkraut     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
hi i am here.. going to sleep soon, pretty tired. i will leave my email here for 10 min if you are still around. if not, we will try again -_-

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