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AlmaRegulus
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posted October 13, 2021 07:58 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for AlmaRegulus     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I was recently shocked by learning about Chris Watts who killed his pregnant wife and two kids. It's a horrendous horrendous case. Another fact which is shocking is that he was normal for his whole life, and only after 2 months of dating his mistress he turned into a monster.

So I wonder if anyone would like to discuss astrological factors.

What I've seen so far:

- the wife had her Saturn on his Asc, it looks like he was always under pressure/ control
- his Nessus tightly squares this Saturn of his wife; moreover, he has Nessus-Jupiter natal opposition square to his Nodes, and her Saturn is on his South Node, so together it's a grand cross
- her Mars & Pluto on his Pluto, but he doesn't have natal Mars-Pluto major aspects
- depends on wife's time of birth, but her Moon is probably conjunct either his Venus or Moon
- his Mars on her North Node opposite to her Venus & Uranus; Mars-Uranus opposition could bring sudden violence; strangely, his Dejanira is also in the mix, opposite his Mars, on her South Node, Venus and Uranus
- he has a wide Mars-Chiron natal conjunction
- her Chiron is on his Sun opposite his Saturn
- his Cupido on her Nessus
- his Lust on her Valentine
- his Nessus widely conjunct his MC (with slighly over 3,5* orb it seems quite functional, given the situation)

With the mistress:
- her Pluto on his Asc and widely on his South Node
- they have mirroring patterns: his Moon conjunct his BML Lilith; her Moon opposite her BML Lilith
- exact (his) Mars - (her) Venus conjunction
- his Pluto trine her Moon
- his Amor conjunct her Valentine and Sun
- Orcus-Cupido conjunctions DW
- although her Dejanira and his Nessus are a bit too far from each other, each if them conjuncts widely his MC, with MC at the midpoint
- her Aphrodite and Jupiter on his Sun opposite his Saturn and Valentine
- his Aphrodite widely conjunct her BML Lilith and opposite her Moon
- her Chiron and Union on his Vertex; her Saturn & Uranus on his Antivertex
- his Lust conjunct her Karma & Nessus on her South Node

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AlmaRegulus
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posted October 13, 2021 08:05 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for AlmaRegulus     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Overall I would say that Nessus does look significant, since the guy doesn't even have natal Mars-Pluto aspects. He does have natal Mars-Uranus opposition, but Mars in Gemini!

This Mars-Uranus opposition was activated both by his wife and his mistress, with wife's Venus & Uranus on his Uranus opposite his Mars, and mistress'es Venus exactly on his Mars.

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posted October 15, 2021 06:46 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for kani     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
" Another fact which is shocking is that he was normal for his whole life, and only after 2 months of dating his mistress he turned into a monster."

Was he though? Judging by how his parents come across in their interviews, I doubt he was "normal" before. A messed up upbringing is most likely a big contributor for the mess he became. When someone does an atrocity like this, they always had it in them.

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posted October 15, 2021 07:02 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for AlmaRegulus     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Yeah but how many people in the world with a messed up upbringing... It's rather a rarity to have a good upbringing. Even if he had it in him from start, it was fairly compensated, and then this meeting blew it up in just a couple of months.

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posted October 16, 2021 01:29 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for GalacticCoreExplosionV2     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Seems to me, he was born within the ASPD spectrum aka is a psychopath. Most psychopaths do not commit murder, violent crimes, etc. Most are well hidden, and only do that which they are pretty sure they can get away with. In his case, he just chose not to come out of the closet so to speak, until he wanted something enough to try to get rid of his old life (in his cold, dead eyes).

It doesn't have much to do with synastry or the like. He just lacks felt/affective empathy and conscience. In his case, not only does he have the narcissistic arrogance that is common among psychopaths, but he also is not the brightest bulb mentally/intellectually. He truly thought he and his b.s. story would get him out of it.

The more clever and/or self controlled psychopaths wouldn't do something like that, because there is too much of a chance of getting caught and going to prison. They often do unethical things, but within parameters of the legal system i.e. they often don't overtly break the law or they find loopholes. Hence you have a lot of psychopathic big business or high finance folks, lawyers, media, politicians/government, cops, religion (both mainstream or more niche, cults), etc. Basically, the more clever and/or self controlled psychopaths and sociopaths gravitate to positions of power, control, authority, extreme wealth, and/or status. Like flies to poop.

The less intelligent and/or self controlled types, typically end up engaging in petty crimes, and often end up in prison at some point. Prison population is estimated to have around 20% ASPD population on average, but it probably varies some from region to region.

Everything about Chris Watts says/implies psychopath. But again, the important point, is many psychopaths would not necessarily murder someone. Not that they would necessarily be against that from any ethical or empathy reason, but rather only if they had a really good reason and/or thought they could completely get away with it.

Media has done a real disservice to this topic to equate psychopathy over much with serial killers or the like. It's almost like a distraction from the everyday and more common psychopaths that surround us in society. They are just as dangerous and destructive as the rare ones who do murder people or the like, even though their actions are more subtle or less surface destructive.

One of the biggest problems of this world/of humanity is that while most humans are not psychopaths, we are overly gullible and naive, and allow psychopaths and sociopaths too much into positions of too much power and control. And the majority of us non ASPD folks, end up getting overly controlled/influenced/manipulated by the minority ASPD folks.

According to Edgar Cayce, this is a real big problem that goes way, way back, even to the earlier days of Atlantis when the ASPD (who his guidance referred to as the "sons of Belial") types got too much power and influence there and other places, and wreaked havoc on their nations, on the world, etc. There really is an unspoken, silent war going on between that of the Light and the severely lacking in Light, and so often, the latter seems to gain the upper hand materially.

Things are so bad now, and heading in such a dark future, that the Creative Forces will be intervening just to give humanity a fighting chance. And no one will like this intervention. But it's like a surgery to cut out a cancerous tumor in a body before it poisons/toxifies the entire body and kills it. There is not much choice in the matter at this point. Extreme times call for extreme measures.

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posted October 26, 2021 11:59 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Randall     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Bump!

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kani
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posted October 27, 2021 07:08 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for kani     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by AlmaRegulus:
Yeah but how many people in the world with a messed up upbringing... It's rather a rarity to have a good upbringing. Even if he had it in him from start, it was fairly compensated, and then this meeting blew it up in just a couple of months.

you need to watch the interview with his mum to know what I mean. And your first comment made it sound like the mistress is the one that made him do it. It's his own responsibility and only he should pay for it.

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posted October 27, 2021 07:59 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for teasel     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
He killed his babies, and his wife, because he fell in love with another woman. That isn't normal behaviour. The mistress isn't to blame.

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AlmaRegulus
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posted October 29, 2021 05:53 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for AlmaRegulus     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I certainly didn't mean to blame the mistress but clearly their relationship is an example of a turning point relationship which is interesting astrologically. Why her and not any other woman he'd met during the years of his marriage?

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