posted October 23, 2021 10:16 AM            

Does Saturn conjunct DSC indicate a relationship would never happen between both people?

posted October 27, 2021 04:11 PM            

If someone's Venus falls in your 7th house, you are going to feel it if they're interested. I love this placement because I can be superficial at times. I love affections and gifts and going on nice dates and getting flowers and compliments (his Venus was not afflicted and trine Jupiter) so I received the positive energy he displayed. I feel valued and loved. Ofc it didn't work out because Pluto wanted more than that and my Venus/Moon was squaring his Venus - there was a clash - my way of love and accommodation wasn't his forte. I only have one experience to based off and another me being the Venus. I adore him and he's endearing to me. I want to hug and kiss him and cuddle. He says he feels spoiled by me (he loves massages, so yah). I pretty much compliment him. I'm not sure how he feels about all these Venusian energy because my Venus is in the sign of Aries and thankfully no squares. I can be overwhelming and passionate. Def want to check the composite too. Because both of the partners, we had Sun/Venus conjunction. I can't tell them apart. Btw these are the same people I spoke of in above paragraph. NGL, it can get stale at times too. I have my Venus trine Uranus, and sometimes I get an urge for excitement. Overall Saturn display a slow steady energy for me. They're also the only guys that considered me for marriage.

posted October 30, 2021 01:41 PM            

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Originally posted by lilithbabe:
I had experience with a man's Saturn conjunct my descendant, and he was super clingy and almost immediately wanted a committed relationship. I never gave him any indication that I wanted a relationship... but he expected so much from me even though we weren't officially "dating" (e.g. immediate texts back, always expecting me to be available on the days he asked to see me, etc.)

Not sure if relevant, but his Sun and Moon were also in my first house, and his Venus conjunct my Venus.

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posted October 30, 2021 01:48 PM            

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Originally posted by SimplyLuna:
Not necessarily. It's kind of like Pluto too. Not everyone's Saturn conjunct the DSC wants a commitment with the DSC. If it activates and other aspects are desirable to them, it shows a willingness to commit on their part through my own experiences. The Saturn sees me as an ideal person to be with. I think the trigger was when I was behaving carefree and dating around after our 2nd date. They urgently want me to be loyal - committed and monogamous (sounds like Saturn's fear acting out). It's sudden too, maybe because I have Uranus/Neptune involved too. Both the Saturn has some Cap/Saturn energy to their chart - cap stellium (I'm talking about 5 planets - every planets the same except one is Sun and other is Venus). So I understand their appeal for a commitment. One ironically was dating around until we met (however we have other planets aligned) so it helped. He said I smelled like commitment LOL and he couldn't take me for a fling so he backed away theeeen years later the tables turned - he freaked out.

If someone's Venus falls in your 7th house, you are going to feel it if they're interested. I love this placement because I can be superficial at times. I love affections and gifts and going on nice dates and getting flowers and compliments (his Venus was not afflicted and trine Jupiter) so I received the positive energy he displayed. I feel valued and loved. Ofc it didn't work out because Pluto wanted more than that and my Venus/Moon was squaring his Venus - there was a clash - my way of love and accommodation wasn't his forte. I only have one experience to based off and another me being the Venus. I adore him and he's endearing to me. I want to hug and kiss him and cuddle. He says he feels spoiled by me (he loves massages, so yah). I pretty much compliment him. I'm not sure how he feels about all these Venusian energy because my Venus is in the sign of Aries and thankfully no squares. I can be overwhelming and passionate. Def want to check the composite too. Because both of the partners, we had Sun/Venus conjunction. I can't tell them apart. Btw these are the same people I spoke of in above paragraph. NGL, it can get stale at times too. I have my Venus trine Uranus, and sometimes I get an urge for excitement. Overall Saturn display a slow steady energy for me. They're also the only guys that considered me for marriage.

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posted November 02, 2021 01:26 PM            

All planets have two sides, and the good side of Saturn is that it's a stable, mature, long-lasting and serious commitment planet. It's like a caring father, sometimes strict and even cold, but it does everything for our sake, to teach to us how to deal with the responsabilities of life.

Usually we get along better with Saturn after its first return.

I have a similar combination in Juno chart with the man of my interest (his Juno chart Saturn conj. my Juno chart DSC), and I only can think of him as a stable, mature, responsible and committed husband. And casually, it fits with with the image I have of him (in natal he has Mars in 10th, Capricorn house). My Juno chart Venus conj. his Juno chart DSC does the rest.

In natal, my Moon conj. his DSC and his Mars conj. my DSC (from 6th). Also, there's a double whammy between Moon-Mars (trine both of them), so surely boring won't be a problem between us.

posted November 02, 2021 07:01 PM            

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Originally posted by yungang_grotto:
Saturn on any angle in synastry is very serious business, for both parties. The Saturn person's insecurities are brought to the fore by the behaviour/ interactions/family life/career of the angle person... it's especially potent when it is a conjunction to the Asc-Desc axis, because jest their being themselves and interacting with Saturn it's enough to trigger all their Saturn issues, which differ by sign and house placement and natal aspect patterns of course.

Saturn will often try to compensate for the significant triggering going on by compelling (or bullying) the angle person to conform to what they imagine (with their reptilian Saturn brain ) would give a feeling of correctness and security. The angle person, ironically, already more or less innately knows how to do this thing, though maybe they could use a few tune ups and prods in the absolutely most fastidious possible direction... especially when a conjunction is being made to the descendant, they are learning to moderate their response to the other through Saturn... but often it is the angle person, in fact, who is very much showing Saturn how to manage their fears and become the fully fledged responsible being they need to be, one who has faced those fears and their darkness... thanks to that angle person, who forces Saturn to see it very clearly and without pretense, because they are Living it (the sign energy and degree where we find Saturn in the other chart, that is) in a more essential way.. and Saturn actually comes out that much wiser and more grounded and committed. They are ultimately comforted by choose contacts to the angles and luminaries, because what they feel all awkward and cold and hard about is being expressed more warmly usually by the other party. So it helps Saturn relax.

This is why you see Saturn aspecting the angles and luminaries, at least this is part of the reason Saturn acts as such formidable relationship "glue"; the transformations wrought in the concrete actions and beingness of both parties, over the course of time spent together, become an irrevocable and usually quite valuable (if hard won) thread between them, which is sustained and bolstered and built upon the longer they knew each other. Once you've begun this work with somebody it often makes little sense to just leave off and find another person and start all over with the insecurities etc again... if the initial phase of the relationship shows there to be truly enough love and compassion and tenderness (a must for a romantic relationship with many hard Saturn combinations to be happy, in my.opinion) in between and shot through those stark phases of cold hard Reality, then the relationship deepens and widens and the boundaries of each person begin to take a more definite--and more responsible!-- shape and form.

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i found this description to be particularly true in my case. i am saturn. the dsc person has been a huge catalyst to the evolution and transformation of my saturn just by being himself. i wanted a commitment early on even though originally we were just hooking up and i was a commitment-phobe. lots of uranian and plutonian flavor to our connection though so we will probably always blow hot and cold but we have this closeness like weve been through a lot together.

we both have matured a lot more because of each other, especially with stuff like respecting boundaries. my natal saturn is retrograde in the 9th and he triggered those issues early on. he made me see how immature i was in regards to my lack of discipline with 9th house stuff. when i told him how embarrassed i was in hindsight, he understood on a personal level and that made me feel less awkward.

i think basically the way the dsc person relates to others greatly inspires saturn to be a better person. its not like the dsc person doesnt struggle with those issues, more-so dsc has a better grip on them. even in the struggle, saturn is still inspired. it makes sense saturn would want a commitment.

posted November 03, 2021 12:43 AM            

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Originally posted by saracarab80:
I don't know why Saturn has the 'fame' of being responsible ONLY and ONLY of rejections, 'not-to-be', jailer and that kind of things.

All planets have two sides, and the good side of Saturn is that it's a stable, mature, long-lasting and serious commitment planet. It's like a caring father, sometimes strict and even cold, but it does everything for our sake, to teach to us how to deal with the responsabilities of life.

Usually we get along better with Saturn after its first return.

I have a similar combination in Juno chart with the man of my interest (his Juno chart Saturn conj. my Juno chart DSC), and I only can think of him as a stable, mature, responsible and committed husband. And casually, it fits with with the image I have of him (in natal he has Mars in 10th, Capricorn house). My Juno chart Venus conj. his Juno chart DSC does the rest.

In natal, my Moon conj. his DSC and his Mars conj. my DSC (from 6th). Also, there's a double whammy between Moon-Mars (trine both of them), so surely boring won't be a problem between us.

One aspect is never a breaking-ruler, you must focus in the entire chart.

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posted November 03, 2021 01:07 AM            

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Originally posted by Sauerkraut:
[QUOTE]Originally posted by yungang_grotto:
[b]Saturn on any angle in synastry is very serious business, for both parties. The Saturn person's insecurities are brought to the fore by the behaviour/ interactions/family life/career of the angle person... it's especially potent when it is a conjunction to the Asc-Desc axis, because jest their being themselves and interacting with Saturn it's enough to trigger all their Saturn issues, which differ by sign and house placement and natal aspect patterns of course.

Saturn will often try to compensate for the significant triggering going on by compelling (or bullying) the angle person to conform to what they imagine (with their reptilian Saturn brain ) would give a feeling of correctness and security. The angle person, ironically, already more or less innately knows how to do this thing, though maybe they could use a few tune ups and prods in the absolutely most fastidious possible direction... especially when a conjunction is being made to the descendant, they are learning to moderate their response to the other through Saturn... but often it is the angle person, in fact, who is very much showing Saturn how to manage their fears and become the fully fledged responsible being they need to be, one who has faced those fears and their darkness... thanks to that angle person, who forces Saturn to see it very clearly and without pretense, because they are Living it (the sign energy and degree where we find Saturn in the other chart, that is) in a more essential way.. and Saturn actually comes out that much wiser and more grounded and committed. They are ultimately comforted by choose contacts to the angles and luminaries, because what they feel all awkward and cold and hard about is being expressed more warmly usually by the other party. So it helps Saturn relax.

This is why you see Saturn aspecting the angles and luminaries, at least this is part of the reason Saturn acts as such formidable relationship "glue"; the transformations wrought in the concrete actions and beingness of both parties, over the course of time spent together, become an irrevocable and usually quite valuable (if hard won) thread between them, which is sustained and bolstered and built upon the longer they knew each other. Once you've begun this work with somebody it often makes little sense to just leave off and find another person and start all over with the insecurities etc again... if the initial phase of the relationship shows there to be truly enough love and compassion and tenderness (a must for a romantic relationship with many hard Saturn combinations to be happy, in my.opinion) in between and shot through those stark phases of cold hard Reality, then the relationship deepens and widens and the boundaries of each person begin to take a more definite--and more responsible!-- shape and form.

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i found this description to be particularly true in my case. i am saturn. the dsc person has been a huge catalyst to the evolution and transformation of my saturn just by being himself. i wanted a commitment early on even though originally we were just hooking up and i was a commitment-phobe. lots of uranian and plutonian flavor to our connection though so we will probably always blow hot and cold but we have this closeness like weve been through a lot together.

we both have matured a lot more because of each other, especially with stuff like respecting boundaries. my natal saturn is retrograde in the 9th and he triggered those issues early on. he made me see how immature i was in regards to my lack of discipline with 9th house stuff. when i told him how embarrassed i was in hindsight, he understood on a personal level and that made me feel less awkward.

i think basically the way the dsc person relates to others greatly inspires saturn to be a better person. its not like the dsc person doesnt struggle with those issues, more-so dsc has a better grip on them. even in the struggle, saturn is still inspired. it makes sense saturn would want a commitment.

we still hookup sometimes, i still want a tangible commitment and we are both still commitment-phobes but as more time passes (its been 6 years), the underlying security between us seems to get stronger even after some ridiculous plutonian and/or uranian influenced conflicts. [/B][/QUOTE]

posted November 04, 2021 06:44 PM            

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Originally posted by ChildofVenus:
You mentioned that you as the Saturn person wanted commitment. I'm curious as to how this aspect would play out between us with him being Poly.

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ok im not good at reading other peoples charts yet and my reads are still very general but i want to practice..

i think his saturn issues have to do with communication on an intimate level (close to ic) and how you communicate triggers/heals his issues with not being able to be open in regards to communication and intimacy (venus conjunct saturn). he is patient with you because he understands his own pain/fears through you and admires how you communicate in intimate situations, not just with him but with others..

depends on what you want, commitment can still be established in poly relationships right? i think if you wanted commitment with him, he would consider your needs and take them seriously.