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93nov
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posted November 19, 2021 07:49 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for 93nov     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
My DOB: 11/11/1993

New Hyde Park, NY

5:00pm (birth certificate accuracy).


His DOB: 06/24/1993

Lancaster, SC

His mom said between 5:00-5:30pm (go figure).


We have a few years of history. Lived together for almost two years. We met online and the rest is literally history.

I'm not sure if he's just a Cancer male who isn't ready to settle down yet or a Narcissistic Sociopath like my father.

Either way, mixed signals aren't a good sign.

But then again, other people's viewpoints and opinions on his behavior has me constantly second guessing my observations lol. It's soo confusing.


He keeps popping back up (like all men do). He even went as far as showing up at my parents' house unannounced to get my attention recently. This is almost two years after we broke up. I don't contact him or reach out AT ALL, but he does every 2 months or so since the break up... that he initiated...

He has never been the spontaneous type when it comes to grand displays of affection so him driving 2 1/2 hrs (We live in different States) to leave a note at my parents' door, seems a bit "extra" for someone with mars in virgo opposite saturn, square pluto.

Might I also mention that I have displayed every possible "crazy" tantrum possible so he is no stranger to that. If he knows I am like this and is obviously repulsed by it, why keep trying?

I am so confused and cry almost every other day.

I just want to stop loving him or be with him.. but this in between is killing my spirit.

& before y'all say, just move on. I have lol. I don't reach out to him or his family. I don't keep in contact or hang on to the next time I might possibly hear from him. I have went on with my life (trying anyway) and do not bother him. It is always him who initiates contact.

I act "crazy" sometimes just to remind him that the games won't work.

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Randall
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posted November 21, 2021 12:07 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Randall     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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StoneMoon
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posted November 22, 2021 06:59 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for StoneMoon     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I think you will get more replies if you post the charts yourself/. Maybe use Imgur.com? And get the links, and just remember to remove the 's" in https and it will post the actual image.

Good luck!

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93nov
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posted December 05, 2021 09:08 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for 93nov     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Can someone post the instructions on how to post an image?

I was a member of LL years ago and could post no problem form Photobucket, but things have changed dramatically since then.

I know this guy was the catalyst to my "great awakening" but I guess I wanted it to be more than that.

How we met and the similarities between us and our families feels eerily too familiar. Just to give a few light examples: His hometown and the "home" feeling I get is unmatched. Me and my family used to travel to his state every year for our family reunion (Even though where he is, is like 3 hours from where we actually go). There's a guy in his hometown I met years before, (over a decade) at the same beach... without no prior knowledge of my ex and/ or his hometown until meeting him on Instagram explore page years later in 2016.

I know he does not love me as his actions have proved that.. I just want to know why I'm having such a hard time releasing him "back into the wild" haha.

We broke up almost 2 years ago. It still feels like it was yesterday. I am still not over it. And it sucks because I recently reconnected with him (Well him, me) and he seems to just have moved on.

I was hoping the time a part would've sparked some change considering we lived together for 2 out of the 3 years we were together. I'm still so confused.

I genuinely believe he suffers from NPD like my father.. like his father. Like I said, the similarities between us and our families are very weird. It's only weird because he's NOT the one. If we ended up getting married and carrying out the whole shabang, I probably would not be sitting here confused, posting this on LL lol (: seriously. How can so much align yet fall apart?

You know how you meet someone and you're like.. yeah, that's him? THAT'S HIM. I thought this is how love and life works lol. I thought you just "know". But considering the incompatible aspects of our relationship and his behavior, I clearly was wrong and partially delusional.

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93nov
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posted December 05, 2021 09:18 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for 93nov     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
If I didn't believe the rumors about Twin Flames before, I definitely do now even if there's still no real evidence behind it.

I experienced something profound within this relationship that expands way beyond the usual relationship hum drum.

I say TF because I really and truly believe, without a doubt, if my ex did not suffer from NPD (undiagnosed but im like 99.9% sure he would be if tested), we would've went off and lived happily ever after. One of the twins is usually avoidant of the connection while the other is not right?

So many more indicators.

And no this isn't just another case where I want something to be true so bad.

I have let him go for the most part and see him for exactly who he is. He did not love me or treat me with genuine respect so it does not matter, TF or not.

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outofideas
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posted December 05, 2021 01:40 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for outofideas     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Listen gurl, you really need to put your boundaries up with this trash guy. And definitely let your parents know he's not at all welcome in their home or anywhere else.
I know a guy who is born a day after your ex.
A know-it-all passive-aggressive low-effort ***** .

Stop trying to convince yourself this relationship did anything good to you. And don't fall for the TF crap. The TF definition is that of a karmic if you think about it!
So woman up and take your power back. Don't allow him to come and go as he pleases.
Hell naw!
We don't do that over here.

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93nov
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posted December 06, 2021 11:19 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for 93nov     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by outofideas:
Listen gurl, you really need to put your boundaries up with this trash guy. And definitely let your parents know he's not at all welcome in their home or anywhere else.
I know a guy who is born a day after your ex.
A know-it-all passive-aggressive low-effort ***** .

Stop trying to convince yourself this relationship did anything good to you. And don't fall for the TF crap. The TF definition is that of a karmic if you think about it!
So woman up and take your power back. Don't allow him to come and go as he pleases.
Hell naw!
We don't do that over here.


You are so right and thank you for your response lol.

I have put up boundaries, but it was hard not seeing an old boyfriend after not seeing them for awhile.. and I did enjoy our brief meeting. But I want more and obviously he does not.

I just want more information in regards to our charts. Some closer..

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antiphon
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posted December 06, 2021 12:48 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for antiphon     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
IMO you feel strongly about him because your ascendants are in opposition-a common relationship aspect. Also sun conjunct the ascendant.

The negatives are mars square mars, and saturn square mars - those are some of the worst aspects to have in synastry. Explosive arguments, potential for violence, etc.

When I look at this synastry, I don’t think “What a beautiful relationship! Sadly ruined by one person’s mental health issues.” I think “thank god they’re not together any more.”

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93nov
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posted December 06, 2021 08:50 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for 93nov     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by antiphon:
IMO you feel strongly about him because your ascendants are in opposition-a common relationship aspect. Also sun conjunct the ascendant.

The negatives are mars square mars, and saturn square mars - those are some of the worst aspects to have in synastry. Explosive arguments, potential for violence, etc.

When I look at this synastry, I don’t think “What a beautiful relationship! Sadly ruined by one person’s mental health issues.” I think “thank god they’re not together any more.”


Ha. Explosive arguments is an understatement. We had some equally sweet spots as well which made it harder for us to go our separate ways. I blame my Venus trine his Sun at 12 seconds from exact and his Venus opposite my Sun at 1 degree. We also had a lot of 8th house action in composite which was yummy for the most part if I must say so myself.

I really believe he was the catalyst to really dealing with the issues with my father. Aside from Saturn, there has to be some other aspects that caused this "great awakening" of sorts.

Sidenote: I went through transit Pluto square Moon during that relationship along with transit Uranus opposite Venus respectively.

What's so confusing about him is, he doesn't follow any of the usual patterns.. anywhere. Astrology. Men. LOL.

He has Moon and mars in Virgo and Venus in Taurus so why is he still wasting his time reaching out to me and putting in effort to drive 2 1/2 hrs if he doesn't want me? I know he doesn't. Granted, that moon-mars conjunction offers an Aries-like edge to that Virgo energy but he also has Saturn opposing it.

He has an ex right in his hometown that he dated for a few years before we met and whom he was still contacting while we were in a relationship so I don't understand. I am not an easy source of supply either despite how i appear on this post lol. I do not reach out to me and have not since after we broke up. I don't play little games like keep in contact with his friends and/ or family members like his ex does. This is why it's puzzling me. Virgos are said to be very standoffish and time efficient. All of their ducks in a row so to speak.

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93nov
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posted December 11, 2021 06:11 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for 93nov     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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SDragon
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posted December 11, 2021 10:47 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for SDragon     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Sometimes the other isn't really there but is only 'there' to confront us with our own issues. Not to say it isn't personal as it sure feels personal in the relationship, but some relationships are there to grow from and aren't meant to last. He has issues, pluto opp. venus, moon conj. mars, moon opp. saturn and he gets to be confronted with those aspects of himself through your relationship as your synastry aspects reflect those issues back to him. Until he is able to resolve his own issues internally (which he fully has the capacity to do), there will always be a love/hate push/pull relationship with you.

His aspects seem to relate to a childhood where he may have had some emotional abuse, either neglect (moon opp. saturn) and/or emotional manipulation (pluto opp. venus) and it's tinged the way he relates to relationships in general. Also, with 4 planets in retrograde, it tends to give him a more introspective personality which alongside his sensitivity could be in direct contrast to what he feels is culturally acceptable, ie. more extroverted preferred. If I were to try to view his actions from his side, he knows he has issues, he knows it's going to take time and he knows the any type of relationship isn't going to last or go anywhere until he does. But he's kind of hoping you'll wait for him while he tries to do it. Having said all that, I wouldn't wait for him. You don't owe him anything and especially when there's no guarantee that he'll change.

As to why you're finding it so hard to let go, probably has a lot to do with your scorpio stellium. You probably really enjoyed the intensity and sensitivity of the relationship. Having mercury retrograde can give your mind a certain of kind repetitious replaying of events in order to fully comprehend them, along with it being in scorpio, you like to get to the bottom of things, especially the motivations of things. But because you have so many planets in scorpio, it kind of acts like a feedback loop, you get obsessed with mercury retrograde which would be fine in itself if you had more planets to detach it with, but your thoughts can easily trigger your emotions which then re-triggers your thoughts and then you're lost. If you find yourself getting swept away, do something that your libra moon trine aquarius saturn likes to rebalance your emotions and then try again. The more you do it, the easier it'll get.

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posted December 22, 2021 05:47 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Randall     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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