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rainydays94
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posted December 07, 2021 07:29 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for rainydays94     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hi all 🌸 I hope this post is specific enough to meet the requirements, i understand if it isnt!

My partner of 1.5 years broke things off with me 10 days ago out of the blue. I was wondering if after the eclipse season and we go into venus retrograde whether that is a good transit to approach them again to ask them for another chance?

My NN in scorpio falls in their 7th house and their moon falls in my 7th house too i think. My jupiter + Pluto fall in his 8th house.

I miss them so much I feel like they are the one for me and I cant imagine being with anyone but them. They said getting back together is a possibility after they take some space for their mental health. Thank you all in advance im feeling so lost and appreciate any advice

Our synastry im the inner circle: https://ibb.co/tHsZkby

Our composite: https://ibb.co/HFDSvXr

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Stoika7
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posted December 08, 2021 02:01 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Stoika7     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hi lovely rainydays94, sorry for your break-up :-(

Looking at the Composite, I see why you feel them as "the one", with North Node conjunct Moon and the stellium is the 7th house! This looks like soulmates and you both clearly feel you're destined together, moreover with Jupiter conjunct MC... Pluto/Venus midpoint is square to Lilith and this can show an obsessive/unhealthy attachment to each other or from one of the two people, while Uranus square Venus would require more space and detachment... But the main issue here is that Sun/Moon midpoint is conjunct Chiron and square to the Neptune/Jupiter midpoint. Chiron alone in the 7th house may show that it is difficult to keep the relationship stable cause of other priorities in each your lives which may be in conflict. The square to the Netpune/Jupiter midpoint may show that such differences between you two are not clear, there may be no full awareness of the other's issues or expectations, and so there may be a deep disappointment... Transiting Saturn square to composite Sun mayb have given a stressful burden to the relationship, while transiting Uranus is square to Composite Lilith adding coldness, and while transiting South Node just left composite Pluto, giving detachment...
Sorry I am not sure you will reconcile cause the whole picture looks more like the situation is evolving towards separation, if not soon, when Jupiter is square to composite Pluto.

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ilunatique
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posted December 08, 2021 04:37 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for ilunatique     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hi Rainyday,

They said getting back together is a possibility after they take some space for their mental health.

I see he is an Aquarius. I will share with you a perspective related to the current transits since it happened now.

This week there is a conjunction between Venus and Pluto in Capricorn, ie in the twelfth house of Aquarius.
It can be said that Aquas have the opportunity, to tell the truth, themselves, to ask for forgiveness, to admit where they went wrong. There are also Aquarius who could spend more time in their inner world, for a deeper balance, both personally and professionally. Some of them may come to the conclusion that they need to change their mindset, their way of looking at their family, their business, their idea of ​​safety and security.

Some Aquarius may go through intense emotional turmoil, something may show up that they can no longer avoid. But sincerity to oneself and to others leads these Aquarius to heal and have a more harmonious relationship with others.

Also - Take care for this to not be related to your parents (?)

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rainydays94
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posted December 08, 2021 11:48 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for rainydays94     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Stoika7:
Hi lovely rainydays94, sorry for your break-up :-(

Looking at the Composite, I see why you feel them as "the one", with North Node conjunct Moon and the stellium is the 7th house! This looks like soulmates and you both clearly feel you're destined together, moreover with Jupiter conjunct MC... Pluto/Venus midpoint is square to Lilith and this can show an obsessive/unhealthy attachment to each other or from one of the two people, while Uranus square Venus would require more space and detachment... But the main issue here is that Sun/Moon midpoint is conjunct Chiron and square to the Neptune/Jupiter midpoint. Chiron alone in the 7th house may show that it is difficult to keep the relationship stable cause of other priorities in each your lives which may be in conflict. The square to the Netpune/Jupiter midpoint may show that such differences between you two are not clear, there may be no full awareness of the other's issues or expectations, and so there may be a deep disappointment... Transiting Saturn square to composite Sun mayb have given a stressful burden to the relationship, while transiting Uranus is square to Composite Lilith adding coldness, and while transiting South Node just left composite Pluto, giving detachment...
Sorry I am not sure you will reconcile cause the whole picture looks more like the situation is evolving towards separation, if not soon, when Jupiter is square to composite Pluto.


Hi Stoika7, Thank you so much for your detailed and thoughtful reply I appreciate it so much <3

I definitely feel that soulmate connection with my ex partner. I don't have an easy time dating but when I met him it felt like a deep connection instantly. He has said the same thing to me too. We have had stable periods of our relationship but also unstable. He dumped me in the summer due to his mental health and came back to me. I hope he comes back again, I understand the mental health. You don't have to apologize about the situation evolving towards separation.

I was wondering when is Jupiter square to composite Pluto if I can ask you that? I am hoping to reconcile just one more time and make things work as we have done that before

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rainydays94
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posted December 08, 2021 11:51 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for rainydays94     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by ilunatique:
Hi Rainyday,

They said getting back together is a possibility after they take some space for their mental health.

I see he is an Aquarius. I will share with you a perspective related to the current transits since it happened now.

This week there is a conjunction between Venus and Pluto in Capricorn, ie in the twelfth house of Aquarius.
It can be said that Aquas have the opportunity, to tell the truth, themselves, to ask for forgiveness, to admit where they went wrong. There are also Aquarius who could spend more time in their inner world, for a deeper balance, both personally and professionally. Some of them may come to the conclusion that they need to change their mindset, their way of looking at their family, their business, their idea of ​​safety and security.

Some Aquarius may go through intense emotional turmoil, something may show up that they can no longer avoid. But sincerity to oneself and to others leads these Aquarius to heal and have a more harmonious relationship with others.

Also - Take care for this to not be related to your parents (?)


Hi ilunatique, thank you so much for your thoughtful reply, I feel so grateful. Yes he is an Aquarius and I am a Leo so feel that opposites attract vibe quite strongly.

That is helpful to know conjunction between Venus and Pluto in Capricorn may bring some change in him. I hope it results in our re conciliation. He has dumped me before because of his Mental Health then came back to me again.

We are planning to talk about everything soon. Should I try when the conjunction happens? Or will that energy stick around for a while? Sorry if I sound desperate, I am still in shock by our sudden break up and love him a lot.

Thank you as well for letting me know it has nothing to do with our parents too. I really appreciate it

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LunaIscariot
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posted December 09, 2021 08:28 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for LunaIscariot     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I felt compelled to reply since my first love, who I loved very very much, we were incredibly toxic together/for each other, and we shared a similar connection of off/on. And he is also an Aquarius sun, Scorpio moon. Just like your guy.

And even tho he has his demons, issues and even struggles with his mental health as well; he never once dumped me, or cut contact with me because of his mental health issues. And he has severe anxiety and depression. He kept it hidden from me for years (Scorpio moon lol) and I only found out once it got so bad he had a nervous breakdown and wasn’t sleeping or eating for weeks and snapped and went to get medication for it. I doubt your guys is that bad?

So I think your bf is using that as an excuse to let you down easy. Especially since this is a pattern for him? Breaking up with you then coming back? I’m sorry to sound harsh, but he sounds like an inconsiderate jerk.
I see you have a Virgo moon, like me. So self-esteem is inherently lacking. You need to build enough self love in order to realize you deserve better. You deserve someone who is SURE of you and wouldn’t dream of letting you go, especially not twice!
Remember, you teach people how to treat you based on what you tolerate. He knows he has you wrapped around his finger, he can break up and come back as he pleases. And you’ll take him back.

The composite shows this aspect of on/off in your connection with the Uranus squaring the stellium. This is unlikely to ever change. Adding Neptune to the mix, you’re not seeing him or this connection clearly. Take the rose coloured glasses off. There’s also a potential for deception/deceit here too, so watch out for that…,
When you two are “off” , make sure he’s not “on” with someone else!

Also, based on your 7th houses. I can guarantee you aren’t each other’s destined mates. Marriage or anything serious/long term is HIGHLY unlikely. I say guarantee based off the composite supplementing this marker….

Cut your losses and move on.
This was a karmic soulmate connection that was never meant to last or be more than it was. It was the teach you a valuable lesson. Maybe to do with self-love/worth. Ask yourself why you would even want someone back who’s dumped you TWICE? When you think of your love story, say you get what you want, you get him back etc. how does that truly make you feel knowing he was ok letting you go TWICE….
And I’ll tell you something you maybe don’t wanna hear, but people in love, like genuinely, would almost rather kill themselves than be without their loved one. And most do, lost love is the number one reason people commit suicide. Basically this guy doesn’t love you. I think he cares about you enough to lie to you to say it’s his mental health etc. but like I said, if he loved you, losing you would make his mental health even WORSE, and he would be avoiding that. breakups when you’re in love are easily top 3 worst things a human can experience. And if you don’t agree, well you’ve never been in love lol.

I hope you found the clarity you needed, that this was the harsh but real truth you needed to hear in order to heal, move on and find the real love you deserve. He served his purpose, now let him go.
Sending you lots of love, light and prayers. I promise no matter how bad you feel right now, it DOES get better. Trust me. Time is your friend.

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posted December 09, 2021 12:59 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Stoika7     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hi lovely... transiting Jupiter is going to be square to Composite Pluto in early January... this could bring opposite priorities or expectations and so it may make things more complicated... Could you pull a composite chart from astro.com adding Juno and Vertex? This would show me a few more aspects clearer and a better picture of forthcoming transits...

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rainydays94
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posted December 09, 2021 04:25 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for rainydays94     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Stoika7:
Hi lovely... transiting Jupiter is going to be square to Composite Pluto in early January... this could bring opposite priorities or expectations and so it may make things more complicated... Could you pull a composite chart from astro.com adding Juno and Vertex? This would show me a few more aspects clearer and a better picture of forthcoming transits...

Hi Stoika7, Thank you for your help and interest, I really appreciate it. I added Juno and Vertex to the composite now 😊:

https://ibb.co/3y9QMZq

Thanks again

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posted December 14, 2021 12:24 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Stoika7     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hi rainydays94, sorry for the delay and thanks for the new chart!

Transiting Saturn is square to Juno whilst tr. Uranus is also square to Juno, tr. Chiron is conjunct ASC and square MC, and tr. Jupiter is square to the Venus/Mars midpoint... The Sun/Moon midpoint is conjunct Chiron in the 7th house and it is square to Eros, and South Node is conjunct Saturn, so I believe he was not into it as it seemed, likely kept mainly caring about his own issues and this is likely a definitive separation.... It seems the sparks and feelings were fading away, but likely your life path looks incompatible with Chiron in that placement... transiting Neptune was also square to composite Mars and this would suggest he had other interests outside the relationship, likely he held back his indecisiveness about the relationship for long time... but with comp. Neptune square Venus/mercury I believe nothing was cleared up since the beginning... I am so sorry...

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posted December 14, 2021 02:37 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for vansio     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Although what Lunal wrote is tough advice from woman to woman, she is right: that you deserve better; a partner who won’t leave your side. True, considerate and stable love exists. Give yourself time, separately, to process (mourn) what has been happening over the course of your entire relationship, and honest, practical thinking about why this partnership hasn’t been sustainable, longterm.

If a man leaves you, let him go. Girl, that’s the truth. You’re allowed to feel negative about failure. When you’re ready, forgiveness comes later.

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posted December 16, 2021 08:33 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for GalacticCoreExplosionV2     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Well said LunaIscariot.

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posted December 27, 2021 04:50 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Randall     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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posted December 28, 2021 09:30 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for anska5     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
@rainydays, speaking as a venus in capricorn, saturn in 1st myself (and with 4 close friends of 20years who are Aquarius suns with venus in capricorn), it's really not a good sign that he keeps breaking up with you. I've only ever seen that on and off behaviour in me or them, when not completely in love. His mental health issues, may be a trigger for his behaviour, but I doubt they are the cause for his breaking up with you.

20years ago at the end of my University degree I was really struggling emotionally, suffering from writers block and panic attacks and as a side product kept breaking up with my boyfriend of the time.. It's the only time I ever displayed this kind of behaviour (despite my uranus in 5th house and venus square uranus) and while my mental health issues at the time I'm sure would have been tough on any relationship, the bottom line was that I cared for him deeply, but wasn't in love. When I'm really in love I'm in, through the good and bad, and even unhealthily so till the bitter end...and I lean on my partner and vice versa in tough times. All of the above is especially true for three of my aquarius friends (two heterosex. women, one gay male friend) who share not only the aquarius sun and capricorn venus with your boyfriend, but who are also moon in scorpio. One female even shares the mars in aquarius with him. All of them have been very, very, very slow to fall in love, but when they did there's been no commitment issues since.

None of my friends are moon in scorpio heterosex. men of course, and I've only known one moon in scorpio man who has really done a number on me emotionally with his confusing behaviour,so can't give any input there. But he also had a very plutonic chart otherwise whereas your guy's chart (despite his moon in scorpio) is mostly uranian/saturnian when it comes to relationships. Venus cap, 1st house saturn, ruler of DC mercury in capricorn in 10th. Ruler of 8th house venus in cap in 10th. Ruler of 5th sun in aquarius.

My worry for you is that even if he was to reconcile with you, given his ongoing pluto conjunct venus transit (and after that his sun in aquarius, ruler of his 5th house, will be hit by the pluto conjunction), he will continue to experience mental health issues and therefore it is likely that he keeps breaking up with you. Keeping you in a kind of traumatic flux. Pluto has been conjuncting first my DC, sun, mercury and now venus (and at times all three planets together) for the best part of 10years and it's been tough to say the least. I was in my 30s going into these pluto transits, so with him being much younger, I have no doubt that he has a tough time emotionally even with just the pluto-venus conjucntion. But I've found that when it comes to relationships, it's really acted like a kind of committment test and reinforcer: It's strengthened friendships I felt strongly about and has led to the death of my oldest friendship which started slowly with me distancing myself from her in a time of crisis 4 years ago. Equally romantically it's brought an intense obsession which I've found difficult to let go. So irrespective of your synastry and composite with this guy and you've gotten some great responses from the specialists here, I always find it important to start with the natal chart of someone. And given his saturnian marker when it comes to relationships, him distancing himself from you under a pluto conjunct venus transit does not bear well for the future even if you got back together now.

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posted January 02, 2022 02:04 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for rainydays94     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hi everyone,

Happy new year and thank you all for your replies and word of wisdom, I am really appreciative. Feeling the highs and lows has been hard but I am grateful for your thoughts as its been very helpful, thank you Stoika7, Vansio, Lunal, and anska5.

This may not be what others want to hear but we are talking about re conciling and he has been very persistent with me/chasing me. I took some space from him and he missed me. I want to take it slow as its Venus retrograde and im worried it wont stick, im still processing, I am also talking to another guy at the moment so not banking on my ex.. I forgot to mention we were in an nonmonag relationship before (When we got together first I asked him for nonmonogamy). Unsure if thats related to the Uranus/Neptune aspects

I still have feelings for him and have been unlucky in love so far in my life keeping him as an option and talking to others too. I check my transits for love and dont see anything coming up for a long time. Im also new to this side of astrology so I could be wrong.

Thank you all and I hope blessings for everyone this new year

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posted January 02, 2022 10:09 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for GalacticCoreExplosionV2     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Unless he goes through a significant character transformation via something like a spiritual awakening, NDE, or the like, chances are, you are getting onto a roller coaster. But then again, some folks like that kind of drama deep down, so I suppose it's all good ultimately.

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posted January 03, 2022 04:05 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Stoika7     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hi rainydays94 and Happy New Year!

Happy to hear about these good developments and reconnection. Likely mercury travelling through Venus/Pluto, and through your Composite Jupiter/Neptune midpoint conjunct Eros brought such a chance... Mercury will then be conjunct to Composite Uranus square the stellium, and trine Moon/North Node... so I guess there's still ups and downs... tr. Jupiter is square to Pluto giving great ambitions/expectations... Transiting Mercury will go retrograde on Comp. Neptune and square the stellium in mid January to early february, so I would expect re-thinking or more talking, there's indecisiveness in committment with transiting saturn square to Juno. Give more updates next month if you like.

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