posted December 13, 2021 06:36 PM            

Delays, wrong time wrong place, long distance, obstacles, awkwardness, a relationship might never take off the ground. Or start after a long delay.

posted December 13, 2021 07:03 PM            

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Originally posted by AlmaRegulus:
Nothing good. There's an opinion that it's a red flag if square to Sun or Venus.

Delays, wrong time wrong place, long distance, obstacles, awkwardness, a relationship might never take off the ground. Or start after a long delay.

I had it on Asc square to stellium with Sun & Venus, the relationship never started despite some obsessive interest on both sides. Then we moved to different countries.

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Did either of you have Venus square Saturn or Sun square Saturn in your own charts? I ask because I think these aspects show up in the Composite chart. If two people have them in their natal charts. Like we both have Venus square Saturn in our natal charts. And he has Moon trine Saturn and I have Moon parallel Saturn. And we have Venus square Saturn, Moon square Saturn and Sun square Saturn in the Composite chart. I met on FB dating. We’ve only been talking for a few days. But I like him he’s interesting we only live an hour away from each other so it’s not long distance.

The squares to the Moon and Venus are 7 degrees which is kind of wide.

posted December 13, 2021 09:25 PM            

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Originally posted by AlmaRegulus:
Nothing good. There's an opinion that it's a red flag if square to Sun or Venus.

Delays, wrong time wrong place, long distance, obstacles, awkwardness, a relationship might never take off the ground. Or start after a long delay.

I had it on Asc square to stellium with Sun & Venus, the relationship never started despite some obsessive interest on both sides. Then we moved to different countries.

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posted December 13, 2021 10:44 PM            

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Originally posted by MonteCristo:
^yup. Happened exactly like that for me. And then ended lol.

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posted December 13, 2021 11:25 PM            

Mars trines SN (AC sextiles it), sextiles NN (AC trines it) and there are some aspects that could form triangle figures with asteroids.
There is already one yod with an opposition point even, if you would see the south node.
Do you feel as if you know eachother already since much longer, past lives ?

The motivation is that past together,
The focus point of the yod is the future (NN) conjunct Chiron (healing as a couple and healing others in Gemini 9th house area).

You can reach the goal with the help of the sextile of Neptune and Pluto.
Mars and AC support the motivation and the goal.

Maybe there was attraction and you were fighting for something or just doing something actively together in past lives.

The whole composite looks not easy, but try Davison, synastry and asteroids first.
Anyway I would always meet him first in person and see what happens, before giving up.
I have lots of Sag, might be too optimistic, but that's why I can sometimes see less obvious possibilities...

posted December 14, 2021 08:54 AM            

And since in your composite Saturn is sextiling Jupiter and Uranus is sextiling Moon and Mercury,
there seems to be a realistic approach to Jupiter and you feel comfortable with ideas/changes regarding Moon and Mercury...

Just some ideas and like always this all can be lived in different ways ofcourse, so I'm not listing all possibilities.
I guess you might have more experience with astrology than I do
and you know yourself and in which way those principles/energies would possibly appear in your lives.

Edit to add :
Both focus points of the triangles are in Gemini, so the NN/Chiron (9th house) and the MC.
Looks like wounds, healing, future, your paths, calling, MC all has to do with communication, thinking, being messengers...or other Gemini related things...

And the Pluto-Mars-Mercury t-square with Pluto at the point seems to confirm that there might be those wounds, where transformation (Pluto) is needed/possible.
The aspects to Mercury are quite wide though, but that should be an advantage in this case.

posted December 14, 2021 01:37 PM            

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Originally posted by ChildofVenus:
Did either of you have Venus square Saturn or Sun square Saturn in your own charts? I ask because I think these aspects show up in the Composite chart. If two people have them in their natal charts. Like we both have Venus square Saturn in our natal charts. And he has Moon trine Saturn and I have Moon parallel Saturn. And we have Venus square Saturn, Moon square Saturn and Sun square Saturn in the Composite chart. I met on FB dating. We’ve only been talking for a few days. But I like him he’s interesting we only live an hour away from each other so it’s not long distance.

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In our case he did have Venus-Saturn square, and my Venus-Saturn square is too loose at 9* so don't think it is working. But my Venus is in Capricorn and in mutual reception with Saturn. And none of us had Sun-Saturn natal square or Saturn on the Asc. I have Sun-Saturn trine natally.

posted December 21, 2021 11:17 PM            

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Originally posted by HeavenlyLove:
If you like him, you could try vertex, Destinn, Union, Juno (specially also aspects to Saturn, Karma, nodes), Karma, Valentine, different asteroids for relationships, and all that also in the Davison and synastry.

Mars trines SN (AC sextiles it), sextiles NN (AC trines it) and there are some aspects that could form triangle figures with asteroids.
There is already one yod with an opposition point even, if you would see the south node.
Do you feel as if you know eachother already since much longer, past lives ?

The motivation is that past together,
The focus point of the yod is the future (NN) conjunct Chiron (healing as a couple and healing others in Gemini 9th house area).

You can reach the goal with the help of the sextile of Neptune and Pluto.
Mars and AC support the motivation and the goal.

Maybe there was attraction and you were fighting for something or just doing something actively together in past lives.

The whole composite looks not easy, but try Davison, synastry and asteroids first.
Anyway I would always meet him first in person and see what happens, before giving up.
I have lots of Sag, might be too optimistic, but that's why I can sometimes see less obvious possibilities...

Or the relationship could maybe develop like this :
http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=h4Bq69HfR0Y

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These are the Composite, Davison, and Synastry with the astroids added.

Composite

Synastry

Davison

posted December 30, 2021 06:30 PM            

But today I saw the thread and the charts, couldn't look thoroughly enough, but I could see so many interesting and beautyful aspects beside the challenging and blokking ones.

For example Moon conjunct Moon, and in the Davison Sun conjunct Juno (!!!) 💖
The Sun is the most important of the Davison...

Girl, you two could possibly be meant to marry !

There might be some hurdles, blockades or it might not work out in the end, possibly.

But if you don't try, you might always regret it... because it's better to love and get hurt than to never have loved.

Is this person worth getting hurt in the worst case ?
Is he worth that you love him ?
Ofcourse he is !
Because he is a human being and your hearts are feeling eachother, loving eachother, just allow your feelings.
Follow your heart, not let astrology encage it !
You can always live squares in an evolved way and see them as challenges.
First step would be to not let Saturn put squaring hurdles in your way or at least jump over them...

I'm a hopeless - or hopeful 😁 - optimist and not an experienced enough astrologer plus not enough time to look thoroughly now, but I saw some very good aspects too and that's what I would do :
jump in your car and pick him up for a walk in the starry night...🌌✨🌠🌌

posted December 30, 2021 08:53 PM            

I don't know how deepgoing this feeling/fear is in him, but maybe you can take it slowly, be careful and sensitive but talk openly about it, how to prevent getting hurt too much in the worst case, if things might not work out...

You could maybe live the Saturn-squares in the evolved way of taking your time, step by step building something stable, long lasting by being reliable and treating eachother with a sense of responsibility (which you are already doing by not wanting to hurt him).

If you 'honour' Saturn in a constructive way, he will not force you to suffer from his limitations and harsch side.

posted December 31, 2021 01:35 PM            

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Originally posted by HeavenlyLove:
I'm sorry, I didn't see your answer with the charts anymore, thought you forgot it...🙂
And then I got covid, now I have many things to do, that I had to postpone before...unfortunately not much time now...🤷

But today I saw the thread and the charts, couldn't look thoroughly enough, but I could see so many interesting and beautyful aspects beside the challenging and blokking ones.

For example Moon conjunct Moon, and in the Davison Sun conjunct Juno (!!!) 💖
The Sun is the most important of the Davison...

Girl, you two could possibly be meant to marry !

There might be some hurdles, blockades or it might not work out in the end, possibly.

But if you don't try, you might always regret it... because it's better to love and get hurt than to never have loved.

Is this person worth getting hurt in the worst case ?
Is he worth that you love him ?
Ofcourse he is !
Because he is a human being and your hearts are feeling eachother, loving eachother, just allow your feelings.
Follow your heart, not let astrology encage it !
You can always live squares in an evolved way and see them as challenges.
First step would be to not let Saturn put squaring hurdles in your way or at least jump over them...

I'm a hopeless - or hopeful 😁 - optimist and not an experienced enough astrologer plus not enough time to look thoroughly now, but I saw some very good aspects too and that's what I would do :
jump in your car and pick him up for a walk in the starry night...🌌✨🌠🌌

Edit to add : don't text or phone him first, be natural and real and just go to him in person, then he can feel you...

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He and I text every day and he's told me that he has had a tough year. Currently, he's living with his sister and her kids. He helped her get a place because he wanted to help the kids. But he's tired of staying with her and he wants to get his own place. He's been having some issues with work but I think those have been or are being resolved. We haven't been talking for a month yet. And he's already told me so much about him. So yes there are some things that are going on right now. But I want to see if anything will happen with us.

posted January 02, 2022 07:48 PM            

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Originally posted by HeavenlyLove:
And how is it going at the moment ? Any progress ?
Do you ever see him in person ? That's one million times better for opening up and getting to know and trust somebody...💑

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We just started talking it hasn't been a month yet. I'm not trying to rush things because recently he had his heartbroken. And he's having issues with money right now. So I'm trying to give him a chance to focus on that right now. I feel like he has a lot going on right now.

posted January 03, 2022 09:59 AM            

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Originally posted by HeavenlyLove:
I just read the whole thread again and the sentence about him being afraid to get hurt again, to give his heart to somebody...
In my enthusiastic optimism I sometimes almost overlook the serious or difficult sides...

I don't know how deepgoing this feeling/fear is in him, but maybe you can take it slowly, be careful and sensitive but talk openly about it, how to prevent getting hurt too much in the worst case, if things might not work out...

You could maybe live the Saturn-squares in the evolved way of taking your time, step by step building something stable, long lasting by being reliable and treating eachother with a sense of responsibility (which you are already doing by not wanting to hurt him).

If you 'honour' Saturn in a constructive way, he will not force you to suffer from his limitations and harsch side.

The planets/points which Saturn is touching can show you where his positive energies are needed and can evolve the squares into stable pillars...

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posted January 05, 2022 11:31 AM            

I actually have good news concerning this aspect.

My friends just got married. They have Sun & Venus square Saturn in composite, and transit Saturn was opposite composite Sun & Venus whereas transit Uranus was opposite composite Saturn on the wedding day.

Interestingly, they recently had transit North Node conjunct composite North Node and progressed composite North Node.

They have an unusual relationship in the sense that it started online & long-distance, then they met only once during the vacations, and then she came to him with the wedding already planned. Basically, they got married in less than a year after meeting only once (for a couple of weeks) in real life.

posted January 09, 2022 06:29 PM            

And this example of my friends made me really believe once again that Draco synastry and asteroids are very important!

I just found in their synastry such beautiful double-whammy conjunctions at a tight orb:

His Draco Psyche - her Draco Aphrodite
His natal Aphrodite - her natal Psyche

His Draco Union - her Draco Aura
His Draco Aura - her Draco Union & her Draco Pluto

These double-whammy cross-draco-natal asteroids speak so loudly! and they have beaten the composite Saturn square.

According to plutonicdesire.net, these are among Twin Flame asteroids:

Aura (1488) : “In your presence i am complete”

Union (1585) : “I feel (re)united with you” Linkage of marriage

Psyche (16) : “Soulish love”

posted January 10, 2022 05:51 AM            

There is no direct Draco-Tropical chart, so you need to spot those conjunctions manually.

posted January 10, 2022 05:54 AM            

https://plutonicdesire.net/soulmates/

posted January 10, 2022 06:18 AM            

Welcome to discuss there!