posted January 27, 2022 12:11 PM            

And you can also check natals to progressed composite, progressed charts to natal and progressed composite, progressed synastry.

posted January 27, 2022 12:29 PM            

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Originally posted by AlmaRegulus:
Does each of them have an equal amount of overlaps from natals to the composite?

And you can also check natals to progressed composite, progressed charts to natal and progressed composite, progressed synastry.

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posted January 28, 2022 11:53 AM            

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Originally posted by AlmaRegulus:
Progressed Moon moves fast so this could correspond to their getting together.

Whose progressed Moon was that?

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posted January 28, 2022 12:17 PM            

In synastry there's Chiron-Vertex conjunction which is tricky. I've read that with Chiron relationships often emerge fast with a great closeness and then fall apart.

posted January 28, 2022 12:25 PM            

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Originally posted by AlmaRegulus:
Thank you Rudi! I meant the progressed Moon was the one who was in love or the one who wasn't?

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posted January 28, 2022 12:28 PM            

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Originally posted by AlmaRegulus:
Yes the composite is nice but the synastry is not so great.

In synastry there's Chiron-Vertex conjunction which is tricky. I've read that with Chiron relationships often emerge fast with a great closeness and then fall apart.

There's also Moon-Pluto square, Moon-Uranus square.

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do you think so ? they have already those aspects in their respective natal charts, so i dont think it will play a big role..
i saw that sun conjunct asc, venus in first.. mars conjuct mars/jup.. vertex/asc so what made me think it was a good pair

posted January 28, 2022 12:50 PM            

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Originally posted by rudi23:
[B] do you think so ? they have already those aspects in their respective natal charts, so i dont think it will play a big role..
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You are right that it's in their natals already, it's just that there are not many other aspects to the Moons.

In general there's a lack of aspects. Sun conjunct to Asc is strong but it's the only aspect. Venuses only make squares to Mercuries.

They still might be soulmates in some way. Asc-Vertex double-whammy is a soulmate signature (it becomes Vertex-Dsc in a composite). At the same time Stoika wrote that Vertex-Dsc in a composite gives an otherworldly dimension but it might be difficult to get the relationship off the ground.

So one possibility is that they are soulmates but the time for their couple hasn't come yet.

Or that they are soulmates destined to hurt or be hurt and to go through something.

posted January 29, 2022 06:31 AM            

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Originally posted by AlmaRegulus:
You are right that it's in their natals already, it's just that there are not many other aspects to the Moons.

In general there's a lack of aspects. Sun conjunct to Asc is strong but it's the only aspect. Venuses only make squares to Mercuries.

They still might be soulmates in some way. Asc-Vertex double-whammy is a soulmate signature (it becomes Vertex-Dsc in a composite). At the same time Stoika wrote that Vertex-Dsc in a composite gives an otherworldly dimension but it might be difficult to get the relationship off the ground.

So one possibility is that they are soulmates but the time for their couple hasn't come yet.

Or that they are soulmates destined to hurt or be hurt and to go through something.

Vertex-Asc double-whammy is really strong stuff, but the time should be absolutely precise. If the time is not precise, then there's not much else in the synastry.

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well there is also vertex square nodes aspect, but to be honest i have never delt with, so can't really analyse it.

my friend was hesitant at the beggining, so she asked advise, so by looking i was as well suprised by the composite, as it overcame the synastry in a very good way..maybe its not the right time for them dunno

well i might reconsider counseling my friends love lives for a while..till i get my answer for this poor mis-juggment.

i will leave the charts for a while
so any other input is very welcome

posted January 30, 2022 04:17 AM            

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Originally posted by StoneMoon:
I would add that for the composite, the UIranus conjunct IC is trouble, then add that it squares the ASC... there wasn't stability. Chiron in the 10th shows the visible heartbreak. Otherwise the composite did look solid. Moon in 12th can be tricky too.

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just pulled out the progressed composite to see if uranus is there as well.. the configuration changed with a kite and..with a moon/pluto conjunction in 1st :x

asc at 0 degrees, do you think that is of significance ?

posted January 30, 2022 09:17 AM            

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Originally posted by AlmaRegulus:
And can you add transits to a composite and to progressed composite for the moment when they had their talk?

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yes, the transits of the composite when they had the talk, my friend gone "all in", the other "all out", saying she will never develop any feelings for my friend and doesn't want to have anything with her .. it ended pretty bad with a disagreement etc.

AND the progressed composite with transits

posted January 30, 2022 11:04 AM            

Tr. Uranus also opposite progr. comp. Moon.

But it's true that some different outcome could occur with the same transit.

Tr. Venus on comp. Neptune is your friend's feelings I guess, tr. Mercury on comp. Sun is the talk. Interestingly the Moon was in the same sign.

posted January 30, 2022 11:19 AM            

- your friend has her Moon on comp. Asc and her Sun and Venus on comp. Dsc. So this would explain why she is interested in the relationship.

- the other girl has her Moon & Jupiter on comp. South Node opposite to comp. love stellium, and transit Saturn was making opposition to her planets, with Uranus in t-square. So it could be that in general this is a difficult period for her, and the relationship is adding to it. South Node could mean some past experience together or also that she kind of feels like a donor, drained by the relationship.

In synastry they also have South Node - Vertex conjunction, also a hint that it's not their first interaction.

Venus was retro, so things may change when it goes again through the same degrees.

posted January 30, 2022 12:17 PM            

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Originally posted by AlmaRegulus:
Natals to composite:

- your friend has her Moon on comp. Asc and her Sun and Venus on comp. Dsc. So this would explain why she is interested in the relationship.

- the other girl has her Moon & Jupiter on comp. South Node opposite to comp. love stellium, and transit Saturn was making opposition to her planets, with Uranus in t-square. So it could be that in general this is a difficult period for her, and the relationship is adding to it. South Node could mean some past experience together or also that she kind of feels like a donor, drained by the relationship.

In synastry they also have South Node - Vertex conjunction, also a hint that it's not their first interaction.

Venus was retro, so things may change when it goes again through the same degrees.

Can you also post a triple chart on astro.com, a progression of each and a progressed composite all together? there's such option.

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that's a thing, i didn't see the south node composite and natal moon/jupiter conjonction, yes indeed this could be thing !

and you are pretty right, she is having very hard time..that's when my friend got love "activated" if i may say that and wanted to help..be there, all that stuff, but got rejected

for possible future i will continue my brainstorm around thAT story but won't be tempted to tell my friend, as again she is dissapointed and quite sad at the moment..

here is the progressed synastry charts. my friends is at first with the cap ascendant.
what i saw at first was that progressed libra moon conjunct my friend natal..there are other strong connections as well i think

posted January 30, 2022 12:24 PM            

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Originally posted by AlmaRegulus:
If you want to dig deeper, can you also post a Draconic synastry?

I do believe that they are not random people in each other's lives, if the birth times are correct.

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i have no idea how to analyse draconic, maybe to compare to natals ? if i do so i can see again that libra moon/jup hahah..

do you analyse the draconic vertex ?
if so..i can see vertex opposition sun/
vertex conjunct saturn/neptune..
vertexes in opposing signs but the orb its too wide maybe

or cross it with composite, then again draco vertex conj composite sun..
vertex conjunct south node..BUT
with draconic i am not sure at all if i can do that b/w charts..
here its is : my friend is in blue

posted February 01, 2022 07:53 AM            

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Originally posted by AlmaRegulus:
Thanks a lot Rudi! I will think a bit and will get back to this topic later. That's an interesting case, and I hope your friend will find some comfort.

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yes ofcours take your time, no rush

i am learning as well now on draconic as i never go that far in examing charts..

posted February 02, 2022 09:18 AM            

I actually had this aspect in the Draco in my most life-changing platonic but romantic relationship. We also had Vertex-Dsc in the regular composite.

In general opposition in Draco means connection to the South Node (past).

Vertex is a fateful point of karmic encounters.

So cheer up your friend, it's not for nothing that they had this talk. It has some purpose even if it hurts.

posted February 04, 2022 07:02 AM            

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Rudi, Vertex opposite Vertex in the Draco is another evidence that they have some luggage with each other.

I actually had this aspect in the Draco in my most life-changing platonic but romantic relationship. We also had Vertex-Dsc in the regular composite.

In general opposition in Draco means connection to the South Node (past).

Vertex is a fateful point of karmic encounters.

So cheer up your friend, it's not for nothing that they had this talk. It has some purpose even if it hurts.

(I will look more in details later, don't delete the charts yet)

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ohh i have no intention to delete them, i believe that's how we can all learn, from analysing diff charts and stories...

so maybe they are soulmates.. i guess i didn't make that much wrong the composite chart reading, however i cannot help myself but think...when i see that potential beautiful energy that could have flown b/w them, and the reality..of what happened
The kite formation in the progressed composite is gorgeous as well..

for example the most exact aspect they have is moon trine neptune by 0 degrees,which suppose warm feelings and all that; vertex conjuct psyche ..
haha so i still need to learn more.

waiting for your input when you have the time

i saw in the draco synastry moon libra opposition with aries sun as well