posted March 31, 2022 04:46 AM            

Let the battle start.

Would be lovely to hear your examples and reasoning.

posted March 31, 2022 05:02 AM            

Then I saw how magically people interpreted composites on lindaland, in particular Todd and Stoika. And how midpoints matter in composites, I guess more than in synastries.

As a starter for comparison -

(PLEASE DON'T QUOTE FURTHER)

my boyfriend and me have a trine of Mercuries in a synastry, quite precise (0*29 orb). On top of that his Mercury falls on my Pluto with a trine to my Mars and sextile to my Neptune. So it is quite well placed.

However, we have difficulties with Mercury. His Mercury is retrograde but direct in progressions. My Mercury is direct and just out of retrogression in progressions. So I don't know if this could be an issue.

But basically we constantly have mental clashes, and he is always very suspicious of my thinking. He always suspects I'm biased and in illusions. I also have the impression as if I were talking to a fog.

And in a composite we have Moon-Mercury square, or even more precisely, the Moon-Juno-Vesta conjunction is square to Mercury. Mercury is widely (8*) conjunct Neptune,so Neptune also square the Moon (6*).

At the same time I told him that what I appreciated most about him was his fresh original mind, despite his closed-mindedness.)) And he said that he could actually say the same about what he appreciated about me - despite my closed-mindedness.

posted March 31, 2022 05:44 AM            

Those are just a few examples.
Notice how I didn’t say how the two people felt about each other as people?
You can have a couple madly in love with tons of passion and feelings yet they argue all the time and breakup and get back together a ton etc.
To see how these people feel about the other, we look at the Synastry.

Remember too, that the composite is just an extension of the Synastry. Themes in the Synastry will always show up in the composite and vice versa, just in a different format.

So Synastry is how you feel about each other, composite is what’s going to happen and the relationship themes itself. Don’t mix the two up and you’ll start getting very accurate and concise readings

posted March 31, 2022 05:48 AM            

Without decent ingredients the cake will not be tasty or rise and so it may not even create a cake (established relationship)

It’s difficult when you meet someone to look at a composite and just assumed it wouldn’t be a good match, that’s why I think sticking to synastry before investing in someone is the right way to go about things.
If you haven’t got the right balance of energies and complimentary ingredients, it’s unlikely a cake will be produced from the connection.
No strong linking aspects from luminaries is like baking a cake with no sugar.
Obvious clashes and signifiers of instability on/off or deceit without any loving aspects and placements is prob best to avoid, even if the composite looks amazing.

I believe if you’re having to dig deep into a synastry to look for the good stuff it isn’t going to be a lasting connection no matter what the composite says.
On the other hand, the composite is supposed to be how others view the relationship itself which I find confusing, so the Davison is more along the lines of how the couple experience their connection, yet there’s also speculation on how accurate the Davison can be.

posted March 31, 2022 05:54 AM            

Me as the owner of Cappy Venus square Pluto have always been interested in knowing whether my feelings are mutual. And I got disappointed by synastries at some point exactly for the reason that they cannot say exactly who feels what.

Like all the topics here - no consensus on who is obsessed, Pluto or planet, Lilith or planet, Node or planet. And some are repulsed instead of being obsessed. Let alone that some people have purely non-romantic feelings to each other despite some Venus-Pluto or Moon-Pluto.

That made me dig into Draco and overlaps between a synastry and a composite, progressed synastry and composite etc. Synastry alone is just not enough.

posted March 31, 2022 06:42 AM            

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Originally posted by AlmaRegulus:
Thank you LunaIscariot!

Me as the owner of Cappy Venus square Pluto have always been interested in knowing whether my feelings are mutual. And I got disappointed by synastries at some point exactly for the reason that they cannot say exactly who feels what.

Like all the topics here - no consensus on who is obsessed, Pluto or planet, Lilith or planet, Node or planet. And some are repulsed instead of being obsessed. Let alone that some people have purely non-romantic feelings to each other despite some Venus-Pluto or Moon-Pluto.

That made me dig into Draco and overlaps between a synastry and a composite, progressed synastry and composite etc. Synastry alone is just not enough.

Similarly I am not convinced that composite doesn't show feelings. I mean id it's some Venus-Sun conjunction it can signify mutual feelings, no?

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Sun-venus shows a harmonious/affectionate relating. Doesn’t mean love or romantic feelings though. Just a nice, friendly, good natured aspect.
Now depending on what else is in the composite or Synastry, this could manifest as having to be “fake nice” just being people are biting their tongues and being polite like a sun/Venus conjunction relationship tends to show, doesn’t mean it’s genuine or that the two people actually FEEL like they like each other.

Composite doesn’t show feelings. I don’t care what anyone says, it’s only the themes/dynamics externally of the relationship itself. It DOES NOT show how two people actually feel about each other personally. How you act vs how you feel are two very different things. How your relationship actually is (composite) vs how you feel about THEM is a different thing. You can have a totally abusive conflict ridden relationship (sun opp Pluto, mars square moon/mercury, Saturn square sun, Saturn square asc etc.) yet someone is head over heels obsessed and in love.

And sure, dynamics of a relationship can influence how two people feel about each other over time, but that’s only a byproduct and after affect, it wasn’t there naturally or organically to begin with as the Synastry would show.

Also, you don’t seem to truly understand how Synastry works and aspects. Because it absolutely 100 percent can and does show exactly how each person feels, why and who has more feelings etc. It’s literally my specialty lol you just have to know how to do it.
Houses are the most important thing in Synastry, it’s what makes it so personalized and accurate,
I’d be happy to show you some examples if you want to help you learn.

It’s why a Venus/mars square or conjunction doesn’t always translate into passion like what you read online.
If Venus or mars isn’t ruling one of the attraction/love houses like the 5, 7th, 8th or the angles, it’s not going to be felt or manifest in a romantic way. (Btw stop trusting only what you read online, most of it is garbage lol, do your own research and start asking questions/studying and taking notes and noticing patterns after readings a ton of charts to understand how the charts truly play out in a practical real world manner not just in theory).

ASC ruler conjunct DSC ruler despite what planets they are (obviously stronger if they are Venus or mars of course) is going to feel 10 times more like a Venus/mars conjunction than a regular one where these planets are ruling the 2nd (Venus) and 6th houses (mars) respectively in the partners charts.

posted March 31, 2022 11:15 AM            

I am now trying to find a topic where someone posted charts of her friend (a girl) and her crush (also a girl). Don't remember now if it was a synastry or a composite, but it looked mutual, so that the friend (encouraged by the topic starter) made a move and got a turn down. If anyone finds this topic, please post it here!

One thing I am not getting particularly is who feels something - the planet or the cusp. It varies so much.

Thank you for your kind suggestion, I am always happy to learn about my relationship charts. Especially who feels more. I want a guarantee that someone is in love with me but alas... don't think astrology can provide that.

So here are the charts with that Mercury guy, my current relationship.

Our synastry (I am inside):

Our Draco synastry:

my natal Asc 17*39 Sco
his Draco Dsc 18*23 Sco
my Draco asteroid for my name 18*37 Sco
my Draco DNA 18*47 Sco

Also, my Draco Venus is conjunct his natal Moon within 1*30 orb.

His Draco Moon & my Draco Sun are conjunct with 0,02* orb.

His Draco Amor conjunct my natal South Node exact, my Draco Valentine conjunct his South Node exact.

My Draco Neptune is conjunct his natal Valentine DW, his Draco Neptune is conjunct my natal Valentine DW (and his natal Amor, square to my natal Pluto & my Draco Amor on top of Pluto).

posted March 31, 2022 11:24 AM            

However I feel very Plutonic with him. It aligns better to our composite Venus-Pluto wide conjunction (8*). Although wide, the Venus is right on Saturn/Pluto midpoint which is kind of how I feel.

Well it could as well be Moon-Pluto opposition in the Draco synastry, I don't know...

posted March 31, 2022 01:40 PM            

Jupiter in that position is frequent for me in synastries since it builds up to a grand trine (or other planets in Gemini).

Sun-Moon - I had a more precise conjunction, and there was no relationship.

posted March 31, 2022 01:50 PM            

I was obsessed with him for 2 years, he kind of also seemed affected but he never made a move; didn't respond to my move; there was no relationship - which I think is due to a composite Saturn on Asc square stellium

Synastry

Composite

posted March 31, 2022 01:57 PM            

We met through a dating site but neither of us got feelings; it was just sympathy; no relationship

posted March 31, 2022 02:05 PM            

Reversed case, he fell hard for me; I never did and was kind of repulsed physically; we kind of attempted dating but it was more like a friendship

posted March 31, 2022 03:25 PM            

My first love; he loved me and felt very close to me but wasn't in love; it hurt me very much up to suicidal ideas; most life-changing relationship; platonic and most times long-distance

posted March 31, 2022 03:31 PM            

My first man; I had more feelings, for him it was a rebound; I broke up after about a year because of inequality of feelings; then I was the one who suffered and kept obsessing for a couple of years

His time of birth is exact but I perceived more of Aqua in him so wondering if his Asc was actually in early Aqua on my Sun; but by his appearance he matched Cappy Asc; by his vibes he was more Aqua

Synastry

posted March 31, 2022 07:12 PM            

Also, how sure are you of the others birthtimes? Has to be 100 percent accurate, unless they seen their birth certificates or asked a trusted family member etc. the readings won’t be accurate!

posted April 01, 2022 02:51 AM            

Yes the times are precise, I only have doubts about Case 6 since I perceive him more as Aqua Asc, although by pure appearance he does fit his Cappy Asc.

So here it is.

Case 1. My current relationship (me inside).

posted April 01, 2022 04:46 AM            

I was obsessed with him for 2 years, he kind of also seemed affected but he never made a move; didn't respond to my move; there was no relationship - which I think is due to a composite Saturn on Asc square stellium

Synastry

Composite

posted April 01, 2022 04:52 AM            

We met through a dating site but neither of us got feelings; it was just sympathy; no relationship

Synastry

posted April 01, 2022 04:56 AM            

Reversed case, he fell hard for me; I never did and was kind of repulsed physically; we kind of attempted dating but it was more like a friendship

Synastry

posted April 01, 2022 05:02 AM            

My first love; he loved me and felt very close to me but wasn't in love; it hurt me very much up to suicidal ideas; most life-changing relationship; platonic and most times long-distance

Synastry

Composite