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enypen
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posted April 22, 2022 02:15 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for enypen     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
heya! i have this friend whom i stopped talking to recently. we had a series of multiple fights and it climaxed eventually over something small and we have now stopped talking and are ignoring each other’s presence despite being in each other’s presence everyday.

do you see anything on what might be causing this in the synastry chart? i’m the inner circle, she’s the outer.

we have had many small fights before and she has this habit of “putting me down” like talking down to me. she doesn’t realise it and always pretends it to be a joke but she says it very seriously. she makes jokes at the expense of me and this gets especially strong when i let her do it- because there’s phases where she stops this, but especially when we are with a third party she will start talking about how dumb i am and such. it really started bothering me, so i started arguing with her on small things.

we haven’t spoken for about 2 months now.

otherwise we tend to get along well and we have similar interests.

thanks in advance!

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PlutoWasHere
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posted April 22, 2022 03:54 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for PlutoWasHere     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hi enypen, it seems like such a shame to have a good friend drift away. When I look at your synastry, my eye immediately is drawn to the t-square with her Moon apex square your Mars and Pluto opposition. Her Moon triggers your natal Mars opposite Pluto, which would make you feel like she looks down on you or you’ll feel challenged by her. Your Mars triggers her natal Moon square Pluto, she probably feels very emotional and might overreact easily. These natal harsh aspects with Pluto likely has drawn you two together because there are similar personality traits. You both have that Plutonic intensity which you appreciate, but you also really trigger each other.

I also noticed your Moon square her Mercury, you might find it difficult to explain your emotions to her or it’s easy for misunderstandings to arise when you’re emotional.

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enypen
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posted April 22, 2022 04:47 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for enypen     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by PlutoWasHere:
Hi enypen, it seems like such a shame to have a good friend drift away. When I look at your synastry, my eye immediately is drawn to the t-square with her Moon apex square your Mars and Pluto opposition. Her Moon triggers your natal Mars opposite Pluto, which would make you feel like she looks down on you or you’ll feel challenged by her. Your Mars triggers her natal Moon square Pluto, she probably feels very emotional and might overreact easily. These natal harsh aspects with Pluto likely has drawn you two together because there are similar personality traits. You both have that Plutonic intensity which you appreciate, but you also really trigger each other.

I also noticed your Moon square her Mercury, you might find it difficult to explain your emotions to her or it’s easy for misunderstandings to arise when you’re emotional.


hi! thank you so much for your reply! this is so spot on. i never noticed that aspect oh my. this makes a lot of sense, we trigger each other a lot with like everything we say- and she will overreact to every little thing i say and completely misinterpret every action and word- and won’t even let me explain myself at times.

we are very very similar indeed and we have incredibly similar energies, but that emotional conflict just stands in our way. i never know how to explain myself to her or explain my emotions- it almost feels helpless at times. now we are both holding a grudge- to the point she didn’t even look at me on my birthday. it’s insane.

thank you so much!

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posted April 22, 2022 08:00 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for mirage29     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Happy Birthday, Enypen!!

You've got Changes coming up and newer better things to be looking forward to in your life.

I can sense the 'hurt' you feel about what happened with your Pisces friend. Not a fair thing for her to do.

It is OKAY to defend yourself after she was like that a while. She needed to know.

PISCES is her 4th House
Transits
With her being a Pisces she's been an energetic deluge by transiting stellium of planets.
This occurred in her 'home' sector (IC/4th). Perhaps she has had challenges come up, and confusing situations at home have surfaced concerning her parents/relatives?
Maybe, someone in her family could be disapproving of her and what she wants to do. Could be feeling that she's not supported in 'what' she wants for her own Life?
The effect of becoming sort of disappointed or demoralized can work against her own inner 'self-confidence' and her sense of security-- affecting her overall sense of well-being?
..
Neptune transit through the 4th House can coincide with the illness and hospitalization of a parent??? (COVID-19?)
Makes communications confusing between parents and her?
. .
A good thing about Neptune through 4th is that she'll have the chance to dream about what her Ideals are relating to building her own Home-Space (in and out).
She'll be trying on ideas, imaginations.
What she wants, what she doesn't want as part of her independent life and self.

NEPTUNE conjunct MOON
She has JUST started transit of Neptune on top of (conjunct) her MOON Pisces. That's a Changer.
With that transit it's super easy to misinterpret what you think is happening. Also, she stands in a place to also BE misinterpreted. Her emotions and what she thinks is happening might be out-of-sorts for a while till she gets her sea-legs (Pisces, the Sea?).
Be patient with her.
Try not to take things personally (all the way).
Give her the relationship space away that she might need right now while she adjusts to this Change, and makes up her mind to what the heck is happening?? Disorientation.
She's going to have to have 'time' to get used to how that feels.
She might not understand all this for a while.

You both had Gemini transiting Black Moon Lilith returns;
plus!
You have BML with your Mars Gemini
(with your natal Venus nearby).
BML can ~feel a bit angry underneath things
until she passes by.

BML just entered sign of Cancer.
You might want to read what the transit is as she crosses your ASC and connects to your Saturn.

Enypen. you obviously love your friend.
YOU have an advantage because you have Astrology that can help 'inform' you to what's going on in the broader time spans.

Give her some Time and Plenty of space.
Even if it means that your relationship cools off for a while---- allow it time.

URANUS on her MARS,
about to feel the effect of Taurus Eclipse
on April 30.
Read about transit of Uranus on Mars.

Purchase this book (or pdf).
Robert Hand,
Planets in Transit: Cycles for Life.

Google/Search it. It's available online for around 20 USD or more (used).
My own book is very old, pages have been falling out. Trying to tape them back into the book-- falling apart.
I'll have to buy the Updated version that I've heard he's putting out? (Not sure)


Much Wisdom...


In the meantime,

You may already be starting to feel the effects of transiting Uranus entering your 12th House for a long time.

Transiting Uranus is at the end of your own 11th House {friendships},
and in her chart was beginning to influence
her natal 7th House of {partnership}.
Uranus in 7th for some married charts can spell a breakup, if the relationship hadn't had time to get seasoned and the bond made secure. Good partnerships will last through the shaking up.


Uranus Words
'Sudden and Surprising'.
Different.


Uranus is not only approaching your friend's Descendant,
but (if she was born Feb 2004)
has been experiencing

Uranus conjunct Mars transit.
. .
You might read up on it.
On top of all the NEPTUNE she's had going on, that transit is pretty disruptive all-by-itself.
--
She's needing to 'deal' with herself and much irritation can be working through her right now.
Her Mars is in her Taurus 6th.
6th House has to do with your routines.
Also health.
CoWorkers on her job (if she's working now?)
She might be feeling that she's in situations she can't control (is beyond her control).
Let her have the space she needs.
That's such a restless-making force she's had to bear for this past year and more.
...
There's an Eclipse TO her Mars with Uranus as part of it on April 30.

Just send her Love from inside your Heart...

If SHE needs it,
and YOU need it,
taking a step back to being a presence 'in the background' of her life for a while, may help you both.

Look Forward!

MUCH LOVE on your Birthday!!

(music) Given-Taken
(Enhypen, choreography version)
[3:03] http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0qKNPsStO-w&t=40s

ADDING..
Read about your upcoming
Uranus conjunct Moon
as well as Uranus in your 12th.

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Randall
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posted May 03, 2022 02:34 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Randall     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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