posted April 22, 2022 08:06 PM            

Blue person (Aqua Sun/Moon/Venus/Pallas) is in control here. Their Saturn is conjunct the Libra's Moon, so they feel responsible for the Libra, they want to impart their knowledge onto the Libra (a very Aquarian thing to do), they want to mentor the Libra.

Blue Aqua also has their Jupiter conjunct Libra's Mercury. Blue Aqua really does see themselves as a guide/spiritual teacher to the Libra, which the Libra does respect. They have wonderful brainstorming sessions together, the conversation is snappy, they both learn a lot from each other. I had this conjunction with my favorite professor (I was the Mercury) and it really changed my life in a wonderful way. But I was willing to be the receptive student. Is the Libra?

I think the Libra may be a little more resistant to being the student in this dynamic - they want to be the teacher. Their Saturn is opposite the Aqua's Mercury, so they may be resistant to the Aqua's teaching, insisting that they are really the one that "knows best" and want to flex their power unnecessarily and shoot down ideas without giving them the thoughtfulness they deserve

This learning is a two way street between Blue Aqua and Red Libra, because Libra has their Jupiter conjunct the Aqua's North Node. This conjunction occurs in Pisces, so there are strong, otherworldly, spiritual overtones to this dynamic. The Aqua is probably very open minded and wants to dive in.

Aqua's Uranus is conjunct the Libra's Sun/Mars/Pluto. They may be terrified of the change you bring into their life. They may perceive it to be shocking, frightening, lacking in stability to them.

Furthermore, the Aqua's Pluto is in an out of sign conjunction with the Libra's Venus. Pluto inherently wants to dominate Venus, or at the very least possess Venus, or even protect Venus.

Libra's nodal axis is conjunct the Aquas's ASC/DSC axis, so the Libra is right, they ARE meant to be a spiritual mentor to the Aqua, whether the Libra likes it or not. They both have a lot of karma to unpack in this life and probably the next.

Hmmmmm honestly this synastry has a lot of similarities to my great "impossible" crush.

But anyway, getting back on topic, the Aqua has so much potential control over the Libra, and if the Libra is a male and the Aqua is a female, the male will demur from wanting to be "controlled" in this way. Which is a shame, because this synastry is extremely powerful and would probably be a beautiful experience to surrender one's self to

Their nodes are square each other's nodes...

I wish I could say what, definitively, they were meant to meet each other for.

There is a strong emphasis on learning - whether academic or interpersonal.

Maybe Libra was meant to teach the Aquarius that their way is not always an objective truth, that there are many truths that can exist between two people? Maybe the Libra wants to open the Aquarius up to frivolty, beauty for beauty's sake, light-heartedness, wit, amusement?

posted April 22, 2022 09:53 PM            

Fantastic note about the nodes on AC/DC axis - I can't believe I missed that. Partners in past life?

Thank you for more background, MM. As far as his level of awareness, I can't tell, I'm not that good. Galactic or vansio or someone could probably tell you where Libra is in terms of consciousness level.

What past life guidance have you received? Based on the synastry, I see partnership in past lives, something of an intellectual nature. Meeting in this life seems more of the same, like they didn't finish the conversation. It's an important philosophical and spiritual exchange of ideas. Look at the patterns: Your NN in Pisces in the 3rd, his NN in Sag in the 11th. Sag is on the 3/9 axis, you have SN conjunct DC in Gem on the same. That is the main link, the communication/idea exchange axis. It is about unfinished business there. But then on top of that you have all this Aqua energy and his NN is in the 11th. But I agree with atheneia that he wants to dominate, with his Saturn all on you.

Now to the composite... the nodes are unaspected so I'm not sure. There is more to past life interpretations than the nodes, of course, but at least it indicates a previous partnership, maybe just not a very close one. The lesson this time around is independence within the relationship, rather than depending too much on the relationship itself. Especially with composite NN Cap, each person needs to find their career/purpose.

Again themes of teaching and exchange of ideas repeat with Jupiter and Mercury: Mercury exactly conjunct sun, and then Jupiter (widely) at the apex of a T-square with moon opp Pluto. Saturn is again highlighted, pulling the karmic puppet strings from Gemini in the 6th, so again with the Gem/Sag 3/9 communication/thought axis and Sun/Merc/Venus in Sag! In the 12th, with recalls your Pisces NN, and Saturn in the 6th recalling your Virgo SN.

I think the Saturn and Capricorn influences in both synastry cnad composite are asking you to structure your thoughts and ideas, structure your philosophy and spirituality with the strong themes of the existence axis (Virgo/Pisces 6/12) and thought axis (Gem/Sag 3/9). Saturn/Cap want big picture structure, not the kind of nitty gritty details your Virgo SN excels at, but big picture framework to work within. You should actually be pretty good at this with your Cap Mercury - not sure about his Scorpio Mercury.

You may feel a little restricted by his Saturn, but opening up some communication between you and trying to learn the lessons would be good IMO. If you feel you resisted the lesson before, there's no reason you can't go back for remedials.

Why do you feel you did him a favor by ghosting him - just because your life was crazy at the time?

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In fact I met someone last year (my twinF) that feels as though either it was to occur anyway or it had been lined up due to my failure to accept the first lesson by the Divine.

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This is highly important to me MM, for a broader soulmate/twin flame discussion... You know how I feel about it and how I have been struggling with the Virgo/Scorp. But pausing my skepticism here... How you described the dynamics with this Libra immediately sounded to me like a TF journey with the initial contact, then separation and your life falling apart, and eventual reunion although you ghosted him after. Now the "new" TF enters... repeating the same lessons? I'm intrigued because the lessons I'm dealing with regarding the Virgo/Scorp 1) parallel the meeting/separation/Tower period/reunion and 2) repeat lessons from an earlier connection 9 years ago. Do you believe you're getting a second chance at the lessons you resisted before, as well? Because I feel I am...

posted April 23, 2022 07:56 PM            

I think Vansio and others look at Sidereal to find out that info. Don't know how Galactic does it but he says all the information you need is there with the main planets, no need to go asteroid-hunting for instance.

Thank you for the additional info. It's too bad he is rigid and has this dogma. There was great potential for philosophical and spiritual exchange of ideas, especially with you intellectual air signs! But there is still time, and time will tell... I think we can safely say you are the more evolved, at least evolved beyond dogma.

The Virgo/Scorp is also very Plutonian, with some 8th house action and his Pluto conjunct moon in Scorp, in 12th house. This combined with dream guidance tells me he is very repressed and cut off from his feelings (quite literally, in the dream). He is back with his on/off girlfriend and ghosted me, which I found infuriating. I don't see why I can't be just another of his many female friends. I do not think much of him right now. The obsession is still there in the background, but nowhere near as bad as it was and getting better all the time. I'm finally getting my life back! And I haven't dreamed of him in awhile, which tells me he has left my subconscious... except for those troubling meditations he interrupted recently. Those have been the only "guidance" received, WHICH I REJECT. lol!

So anyway it's funny that we are both dealing with a second TF-like person (I won't call mine a TF) who is very Plutonian. Like we didn't get it the first time, so the universe sends us a f***ing PLUTONIAN. lol! This guy also wants to know everything about me and interrogates me like a bulldozer. so much for Libra Mercury.

He is also extremely different from my great unrequited love, a double Cancer. Such a gentle, gracious thing of beauty, that man. I still love him deeply. But we wanted different things and I see now why the universe kept us apart. I am trying to appreciate the same this time around. For me it is not about them, but what they represent that I need to learn and incorporate into my own being, so I can become more whole. We don't become whole by joining with another, but by seeing ourselves in the mirror of their being - the good, the bad, and the ugly. Then proceeded to accept and integrate those parts.

lol you are so intellectual with your concentration on their MINDS. I'm like "but what about their BODY" jk I am actually thinking "what about their SOUL"

Anyway yes I feel it's a second chance too. Not at love or a relationship, but at the lesson - to quell obsession (my 8th house Saturn squares my 5th house Pluto in Scorp) and integrate their qualities rather than merge with their person.

Interesting about the second one coming when Saturn approached your sun. Mine was opp my sun with the first one, square my sun with the second. Hmmm. Where did you say your Saturn is? And your sun?

This Virgo/Scorp is more intense. The moon/Pluto stuff is worse, everything is more intense, perhaps because it is also reciprocal (he was into me before I was into him) whereas the first one wasn't. But there is a lot more karma to resolve between us than there was with the first guy. Even though I dreamed nonstop of him for years, it wasn't so much about past lives together and his deep wounds that I'm apparently supposed to help Virgo/Scorp heal. Whether he will let me, we'll see. But I ain't no doctor. LOL

It seems this one is more intense for you.

posted April 24, 2022 09:23 AM            

I see you also have the exact NNode - Part of Fortune conjunction which is valid only if you have the exact time of birth for Part of Fortune person. Who is NNode in this situation?

But of course NNode - Asc conjunction is already very significant. I agree it already directs to the past life partnership, and it's the outer person who didn't go through the lesson.