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OrbitalFire
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posted May 21, 2022 05:23 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for OrbitalFire     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Stoika7
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posted May 21, 2022 05:48 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Stoika7     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hi OrbitalFire,

I pulled a natal chart of your boyfriend on my own and I see that he has Nessus conjunct MC square his Moon in the 7th house, and Eros opposite to Nessus... transiting North Node has just hit his Moon square MC-Nessus/IC-Eros. This natal aspect suggests he has issues in relationships as if they put obstacles to his own path, he may perceive that his emotional world is an obstacle to healing and so he sabotages relationships when he feels he can't share more. And this aspect is triggered by transiting North Node right at this moment. At the same time, transiting Saturn is conjunct to natal Eros square Moon and opposite Nessus, and its clearly asking him to suppress his emotional world and reject any interference to his own path. Tr. Saturn here closes his doors to intimacy and to the closest people, drives him to seclude himself, his "heart" (Moon).
Moreover, He's Scorpio ASC with Pluto conjunct ASC and South Node, and he has the Sun/Chiron conjunction in the eight house.
This strong plutonic energy requires that he process his own issues and makes very difficult for him to share his true self or true path with anyone. It's very deep down to himself and natal Saturn opposite his Lilith creates a further obstacle in expressing his feelings or sharing his inner world.
In synastry, your natal Moons are conjunct opposite your Pluto and square your Mercury/Sun, this means that his Moon/MC-Nessus/IC-Eros highly affects your relationship and the transiting Nodes and Saturn are triggering this whole aspect also in your synastry, blocking your relationship, in fact you have tr. Saturn square your Pluto at this moment.
This is reflected in the Composite, where transiting Saturn is square to Moon, and transiting North Node is conjunct Moon.
The Composite Chiron is opposite to Saturn/Neptune, this clearly shows difficult healing through the relationship, it may even be that he feels the relationship blocks his healing for some reason...
Your Composite Mercury is conjunct IC... When transiting Mercury went retrograde it was square to the Composite nodes... and that's when he started to withdraw from the relationship... Saturn will be retrograde in the summer, and Mercury will be direct again in early June, so I don't think your relationship is over yet. It seems he needs to process all this and become aware of what it's best for him. It may take a while. I would say to wait for transiting mercury to be direct again and be square to the Composite Nodes to see if he comes back closer to you, and if Saturn retrograde may bring a rethinking from his part.
Let me know....

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Stoika7
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posted May 21, 2022 06:05 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Stoika7     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
PS: aah, you and me are having tr. Saturn conjunct Sun square Moon at this moment, I understand you sooo well. It's a tough moment.
You though are having Saturn also square your Pluto... this is blocking you completely, you're stuck... with tr. South Node on your Pluto and square your Sun, you are having a turn around... you know that Pluto here, also opposite to your Moon, attaches you greatly to your love life and emotions, you are somehow "affection addicted"... the transiting nodes on this natal t-square with tr. Saturn on your Sun are telling you need to overcome this depending attitude and discover your true Aqua Self-reliance... quite an hard lesson my friend!

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posted May 22, 2022 03:49 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for OrbitalFire     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Thank you so much!

You are absolutely correct woth everything youve written about him. I also think his NN 6H Aries / SN 12H Libra plays a big part as well.
You mention that our relationship may not be over yet but deep down inside I feel that it's over for him. I will of course update with developments (if any).

Saturn is square both our moons and NN conjunct it as well. Our mercuries conjunct each other ICs so I wonder if he is feeling any pain from this loss as well but maybe not as bad as me.

Saturn conjuncting the apex of my T-Square together with SN on Pluto.. lord help me
Hope you're doing okay also.

Thanks for your analysis. I do desperately need love and affection to make me feel secure. I hope whatever happens by the end of all this will leave me with more sense of self reliance as you say.

I note in mid June he will also have tUranus sextile his Venus. I fear this may also help him to let me go while I sit here and dwell on us.

Just really sucky time isn't it 💔

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posted May 22, 2022 06:21 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Stoika7     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I hear ya sista ❤️
Mercury retrograde is opposite his saturn and it was closer to the opposition when it went retrograde... transiting Mars/Jupiter are square to his Mercury, tr. Saturn square his Moon, AND tr. Pluto square his nodes... I believe this is a difficult moment for him and he's looking for a turning point... maybe he was compelled to take a harsh choice for some reason... tr. Chiron is square to his Neptune/Venus midpoint opposite to his Venus, so he likely strongly felt he needed detachment... were there issues of communication before his detachment was triggered? is it possible he didn't feel understood by you? I believe he needs to feel he's listened to and understood...
The Saturn and nodal transit to your natal t-square as I said it's quite harsh... the problem is that with saturn going retrograde it will take some time for you to process all this... fear not, but you will need to focus on your life path as well, and the more you succeed in following your direction, the more this transit will be easier to deal with...
There is a strong karmic and intimate familiar bond between you two, so I don't think this connection will be easily over... but it seems it has to go through some painful challenge with the composite t-square involving Chiron... it seems that your individual personal issues are not aligned with each other, he can actually block your own path as well... you both likely need to develope such a self-reliance and meet in the middle way without putting burdens to each other, unless you are able to feel like "one" and share everything in a healing way. When transiting Chiron is conjunct to composite Sun there may be such a lesson... then it will be conjunct to Venus... that's when you will know if it's definitely over or if there's any possibily for a common healing....
Keep me updated! ❤️❤️❤️

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posted May 30, 2022 02:24 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for OrbitalFire     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hey Stoika, thanks as always for your messages. They help more than you can possibly imagine.
Unfortunately, I learnt today that he has already set a up a date with someone on Wednesday night so..
They sure move on fast don't they.
Guess it's time for me to move on.
I also found out my company is restructuring and im in the firing line.
They say bad things come in three's so lets see what else is in store for me..
Hope you're doing alright x

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posted May 31, 2022 05:41 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Stoika7     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hey OrbitalFire, Aqua sister... 💙 I tell you, it's such a tough time with tr. Saturn to our Sun! I'm struggling myself with my whole life....

Tr. Uranus square to your Mercury/Saturn midpoint, along with tr. Saturn just past your Sun/Mercury and square to your Pluto, may actually bring you upheaval at work level... there may be some challenges and changes. And tr. Jupiter is right square to your MC.... but it is transiting your first house and ASC and it will be soon square to your North Node/Uranus in your 10th house, so it seems that you may have good news/chances or that you won't get disheartened! So I wish you good luck for your job in the close future!!

As for him.... well, it's weird because it is true that Jupiter transiting in square between Composite Uranus and Saturn may well bring break up and distance, but Jupiter will be conjunct to Composite Sun/Venus and then IC/Mercury next year.... I don't mean to give you false hopes and I believe separation will somehow be good for you in order to focus on yourself and the changes that are coming for you, but still following the future Jupiter transits I can't rule out that you two will somehow reconnect in the future, likely next year around March.

I wish you all the best darling 💙

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posted June 03, 2022 02:48 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for OrbitalFire     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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posted June 03, 2022 03:17 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for vansio     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Friendly reminder: try not to reject the person you claim you love.

He called you twice… next time answer. Just listen, receive. If you ignore him, he will reflect on that you don’t want him, are closed.

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posted June 03, 2022 03:21 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for OrbitalFire     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Thanks Vansio, I want to agree but he rejected and hurt me during this really horrible period in my life.
I need him to know that because silence is still a powerful response.
It's eating at me because it's a break of habit. Going from talking to someone every single day to abruptly not.
I can't tell if he's checking in for my sake or to help himself not feel guilty.
Never been in this situation so it's new territory for me

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posted June 03, 2022 03:22 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for vansio     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Love is for-giving, not withholding. Apologize for not being available at this moment, explain that you are hurt. Don’t let your pride get in the way of connections.

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posted June 03, 2022 03:23 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for OrbitalFire     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Ill take your advice ❤

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posted June 03, 2022 03:25 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for vansio     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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OrbitalFire
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posted June 03, 2022 05:37 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for OrbitalFire     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Vansio I called him and he and I were both glad that I did. We talked for 2 hours.
Thankyou x

@Stoika thank you as well I'm going to see where everything goes and just let things happen naturall now instead of tryingnto control the situation.
I also appreciate your comments regarding my work situation too

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