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Topic: Hate at first sight???
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May2900 Newflake Posts: 18 From: Italy Registered: Jun 2016
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posted June 04, 2022 12:44 PM
Sooooo, in short: where I work I get along (fairly) well with everyone. I have no problem whatsoever in talking, interacting, or joking with any of the bosses with whom I have to necessarily relate on a daily basis. Among these bosses is him. The one person out of four thousand and twenty who makes my blood boil just by seeing him. The premises are poor: we don't interact often and when we do the results are terrible. Given that I have never met someone who inspires me so much violence -- I once left work so infuriated that if I had found him in the parking lot we would have gotten into a fight (I am a 27-year-old girl and he is a 30+ man for the record) -- I checked our synastry as soon as I could (without his birth time). The aspects are accurate in describing the sort of... awkward, electric tension I feel when he pops up in my close proximity. We have Sun square Sun (me Gemini, he Virgo); a double whammy Saturn opposite Sun; a double whammy Chiron conjunct Sun. Plus, my Sun opposes his Uranus; my Mercury squaring his Venus-Mars conjunction + opposing his Saturn (so he does understand what I ask of him, he just doesn't like it); my Mars conjuncting his Sun-Mars conjunction, squaring his Saturn; my Jupiter conjuncting his Saturn; my Saturn joining with his Moon, opposing his Sun-Mercury-Venus; my Chiron conjuncting his Sun-Venus-Mars conjunction; my Lilith (involved because she's joined at the hips with my Sun) squaring his Sun-Venus; my Pholus (I wouldn't normally include him in synastry, but in this case...) conjuncting his Sun-Mars; on top, an exact conjunction between his Pholus and my Venus, that natally opposes my Pluto. Oh, and his Chiron straight on my Ascendant. When I saw this mountain of aspects, I did not suspect that I would find so many triggering aspects. The inherent potential for violence shocked me, even though I had already sensed it in numerous situations. I would not be surprised if the whole company knew that we cannot even see each other. Then I saw his Sun/Moon midpoint smacked on my Sun: 19°49' Gemini. What a f*** Mutable mess. Can I have some feedback/interpretation on this, please? I can share some charts if you want, I don't know how to insert them here but I can link them. IP: Logged |
Stoika7 Knowflake Posts: 2282 From: Rome, Italy Registered: Mar 2019
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posted June 04, 2022 02:44 PM
Hi, you need to upload the chart to imgur or alike and then share the link on here taking off the "s" from "https" :-)IP: Logged |
May2900 Newflake Posts: 18 From: Italy Registered: Jun 2016
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posted June 04, 2022 06:34 PM
quote: Originally posted by Stoika7: Hi, you need to upload the chart to imgur or alike and then share the link on here taking off the "s" from "https" :-)
Okay, I'm gonna try it right now!! http://imgur.com/a/Oh9DqMm IP: Logged |
GalacticCoreExplosionV2 Knowflake Posts: 2113 From: Registered: Jul 2021
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posted June 04, 2022 06:35 PM
As I often tell people in situations like this: past life/karmic investigation will be a lot more fruitful than looking at the astrology. Typically when there are such strong/intense feelings involved, there is some kind of past life/karmic type background and connection (often not directly, but more indirectly, but that is a long account. In any case, the effects are similar). The astrology then, only symbolically represents and reflects that in a general way. Knowing the specifics and details can be more helpful. For a hypothetical example, if one finds out that a person who makes their blood boil, used to be a lord and had their entire family killed, raped you (or most likely, another Soul extension of your Higher/Expanded self), or the like, well chances are, you will feel very intensely negative feelings towards them. Sometimes just becoming conscious of past trauma, can help with the healing process. But, and you're probably not going to like hearing this, if you do find out that some aspect of this person's Higher/Expanded self (i.e. another Soul of that larger/collective self) did you major wrong--no matter how bad it was, the key to healing is forgiveness. Because here is the thing--they are not the same person anymore. You can't hold the sins of the past against them. They also don't remember any of this consciously, and on a Soul, and especially Higher/Expanded self level, probably already feel bad for what happened*. *This is provided they are not one of the rare, minority, dark/psychopathic Souls (these do not feel bad for the wrongs they do--they have cut themselves off from Light/Love and their destiny is often eventual Soul death--i.e. true, real death. It happens through a sort of consciousness entropy type process. By completely cutting themselves off from Source, Light, and Love, the coherency of their vibratory patterns start to go into "chaos" mode and they essentially destroy that which makes them an individuated, self aware Soul. 3 different sources that I highly respect, speak about this potential and somewhat rare true Soul death. Edgar Cayce, Bruce Moen [somewhat associated with Robert A. Monroe], and Tom Campbell [also associated with Robert A. Monroe]).
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May2900 Newflake Posts: 18 From: Italy Registered: Jun 2016
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posted June 04, 2022 06:39 PM
quote: Originally posted by May2900: Okay, I'm gonna try it right now!! http://imgur.com/a/Oh9DqMm
it worked!!! Thank you so much! Anw that was my natal chart, I posted his under mine. IP: Logged |
May2900 Newflake Posts: 18 From: Italy Registered: Jun 2016
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posted June 04, 2022 06:46 PM
quote: Originally posted by May2900: it worked!!! Thank you so much! Anw that was my natal chart, I posted his under mine.
And this is the synastry between us http://imgur.com/a/hs0PXAT IP: Logged |
mee_chryssa Knowflake Posts: 736 From: Romania Registered: Jun 2020
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posted June 05, 2022 03:04 AM
I would say it's not only him triggering you, but you also trigger him. There are too many oppositions from your Saturn to his planets, and his Saturn to your planets, adding the Mars aspects which are difficult. . His Sun/Mars/Venus fall into your 3rd house which is ruled by Mercury which is in the 12th house, this will kind of be difficult, activating something in you which is not even able to get to the surface. Your Saturn is conjunct his Moon opposite to Sun/Mars/Venus, which makes him very uneasy around you, since it is your Mars there too to his Sun and Mars, you will be the one who will be more aggresive towards him. The Moons are in trine but this is not going to help so much considering the other aspects. Probably you have to learn to let go of energies that you feel around him and relax. Not every interaction in your life will be nice and peaceful, sometimes we met people that trigger us to show that there's something there to look at. He's not the only one that triggers, you are also difficult for him. IP: Logged |
May2900 Newflake Posts: 18 From: Italy Registered: Jun 2016
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posted June 07, 2022 01:13 PM
quote: Originally posted by mee_chryssa: I would say it's not only him triggering you, but you also trigger him. There are too many oppositions from your Saturn to his planets, and his Saturn to your planets, adding the Mars aspects which are difficult. . His Sun/Mars/Venus fall into your 3rd house which is ruled by Mercury which is in the 12th house, this will kind of be difficult, activating something in you which is not even able to get to the surface. Your Saturn is conjunct his Moon opposite to Sun/Mars/Venus, which makes him very uneasy around you, since it is your Mars there too to his Sun and Mars, you will be the one who will be more aggresive towards him. The Moons are in trine but this is not going to help so much considering the other aspects. Probably you have to learn to let go of energies that you feel around him and relax. Not every interaction in your life will be nice and peaceful, sometimes we met people that trigger us to show that there's something there to look at. He's not the only one that triggers, you are also difficult for him.
You are absolutely right. Certainly the "confrontation" (not exactly confrontation, I put it in those terms with the benefit of the doubt) I had and the subsequent explosive reaction gave me a lot to think about. May I ask in what ways I am also difficult for him? I have a long way to go in interpreting the overall energies of a synastry without focusing on myself primarily. On the other hand, it is very clear to me how I can be aggressive even unintentionally, I don't have to try too hard to figure it out (unfortunately). IP: Logged |
mee_chryssa Knowflake Posts: 736 From: Romania Registered: Jun 2020
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posted June 10, 2022 02:16 AM
You Saturn is opposite his Sun, Venus, Mars. That's enough to make him uncomfortable. Probably judge him, being cold. It's not easy, but you can keep a few feets apart and just maintain a formal interaction... If he is not saying something to you, don't say anything and everyting will be fine. I guess him being a Virgo and you a Gemini, him having Saturn in Saggitarius and you having Saturn in Pisces, he is being more detail oriented, brainy, and the planets in your chart in Gemini are also ruled by Mercury, but Virgos go more into details when they study something, more than the Geminis. I'm thinking that he might judge the scattered nature of you, and you might judge the way he is so brainy and focused on the "job at hand" with Saturn in Pisces. Anyway, you are at work there, you don't have interact more than it is needed to do your thing. He already had Saturn square to all his personal planets in natal chart. Just be kind to him. You have Saturn square Sun in the natal chart. You have Mars square Venus in the natal chart, he has Mars conjunct Venus. So I think you each have similar problems, and you kind of mirror each others problems. You can chill and have a formal interaction if you don't understand each other well. IP: Logged |
May2900 Newflake Posts: 18 From: Italy Registered: Jun 2016
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posted June 15, 2022 03:42 PM
quote: Originally posted by mee_chryssa: You Saturn is opposite his Sun, Venus, Mars. That's enough to make him uncomfortable. Probably judge him, being cold. It's not easy, but you can keep a few feets apart and just maintain a formal interaction... If he is not saying something to you, don't say anything and everyting will be fine. I guess him being a Virgo and you a Gemini, him having Saturn in Saggitarius and you having Saturn in Pisces, he is being more detail oriented, brainy, and the planets in your chart in Gemini are also ruled by Mercury, but Virgos go more into details when they study something, more than the Geminis. I'm thinking that he might judge the scattered nature of you, and you might judge the way he is so brainy and focused on the "job at hand" with Saturn in Pisces. Anyway, you are at work there, you don't have interact more than it is needed to do your thing. He already had Saturn square to all his personal planets in natal chart. Just be kind to him. You have Saturn square Sun in the natal chart. You have Mars square Venus in the natal chart, he has Mars conjunct Venus. So I think you each have similar problems, and you kind of mirror each others problems. You can chill and have a formal interaction if you don't understand each other well.
You gave so much to think about!! It all resonates deeply with how I experienced him so far. Thank you for this input, I'll try to be more mindful of how I relate to him from now on. IP: Logged |
sashavittoria Knowflake Posts: 538 From: Registered: Nov 2012
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posted June 16, 2022 12:43 AM
I agree so much with Galactic. Look to the nodes. It’s very interesting you both have yours at 3’ in adjacent signs. His Pluto on your NN and his Jupiter on your SN, and his Lilith squaring your nodal axis. That’s significant. Power issues to say the least. Meanwhile his nodal axis squares your AC/DC. Did you upload a composite chart?Plus your stelliums are square by sign. IP: Logged |
May2900 Newflake Posts: 18 From: Italy Registered: Jun 2016
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posted June 25, 2022 05:15 PM
quote: Originally posted by sashavittoria: I agree so much with Galactic. Look to the nodes. It’s very interesting you both have yours at 3’ in adjacent signs. His Pluto on your NN and his Jupiter on your SN, and his Lilith squaring your nodal axis. That’s significant. Power issues to say the least. Meanwhile his nodal axis squares your AC/DC. Did you upload a composite chart?Plus your stelliums are square by sign.
I didn't upload any composite chart because I'm not sure it's right to use it since we're not effectively "a unit", sort of? I can though if you want. I also looked at the progressed composite chart, and we have a mega-tight Virgo conjunction involving Sun, Moon, Mercury, Venus, all of them trining Uranus. So, uhm, nice? Right now we're quite packed, I might say. Can I ask you something about the Nodes, instead? What do they mean in this regard? IP: Logged | |