posted July 05, 2022 09:23 AM            

May I ask you, from your experience? -

1) does quincunx work and how?

2) what is your cut-off for a separating/ applying orb?

3) do declinations work?

4) it looks like this website doesn't include sextiles, do they work in your experience?

posted July 06, 2022 02:15 PM            

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Originally posted by AlmaRegulus:
Mir, thank you for the awesome link you gave for a Progressed Synastry.

May I ask you, from your experience? -

1) does quincunx work and how?

2) what is your cut-off for a separating/ applying orb?

3) do declinations work?

4) it looks like this website doesn't include sextiles, do they work in your experience?

Thank you!

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posted July 06, 2022 07:06 PM            

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Originally posted by AlmaRegulus:
Mir, thank you for the awesome link you gave for a Progressed Synastry.

May I ask you, from your experience? -

1) does quincunx work and how?

2) what is your cut-off for a separating/ applying orb?

3) do declinations work?

4) it looks like this website doesn't include sextiles, do they work in your experience?

Thank you!

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Alma,

Paul Westran did an extensive research in this - with very promising results and ofcourse I can only confirm that by my own research - so here first some background; http://astrologynewsservice.com/research/replicated-study-enhances-astrological-claims/

I will quote him to give you some insight and this is all based on his (progressed) research;

Quincunxes mean something, but because of trines and oppositions being so voluminous it’s difficult to tell. I have always looked at them as ‘not beholding each other’ which translates to non-intimate or a teacher-pupil master-apprentice relationship. From a statistical point of view they happen slightly more often than we would expect but we can explain this by the progression of natal trines to quincunxes and natal quincunxes to progressed opposition.

With that ^^ he means that the natal-synastry Sun-Venus aspects are also important and these were part of his research as well (although he keeps saying that he feels that the progressed aspects are way more powerful).

Another interesting one;
Quincunxes (like semi-sextiles) show up in numbers in research, but when we dig trying to confirm their validity as an indicator it turns out that there is a trine or an opposition either natally or by progression that is part of a more consistent pattern. So what we can infer from this is that quincunxes are probably not conventional indicators of relationships. What does this mean? It means that -to most couples-they’re not either romantic, sexy or attraction-oriented. But we could also assume that when we look at large numbers of couples we are also looking at relationships that are lacking the nuance of individual experience which is probably more interesting to astrologers. Quincunxes are probably utilitarian relationship indicators, teacher-pupil, master-servant, patient-nurse type indicators and so require a host of other background factors to last a long time. Squares are interesting between Sun and Venus we see them in some very famous couples, but historically where couples had less choice (smaller communities are like smaller ponds with fewer fish), couples would avoid squares when they couldn’t find a trine. Venus Mars squares are a problem to many couples as they are all about being physically out of step. This often, but by no means exclusively, indicates extra marital activity, love affairs and splits. Venus Venus squares are rare on their own. Mars seems to prefer squares to trines while Venus is the opposite. Parallels and Contra-parallels need to be understood and they are not yet. There’s this thing in astrology that most of the people who write books about it don’t really care a lot for in depth research and they know that readers of astrology books are going to believe a lot of stuff without doing deep testing. This means you will tend to skip over the stuff that you don’t need and latch onto the stuff that works for you. Aspects in astrology happen in fairly regular or predictable numbers, any that happen more often than they should indicate an astrological effect. Sun Venus aspects in synastry are an example of this. Parallels also happen in predictable numbers, but in much higher numbers than aspects, so you are going to encounter them more often. The best way I can describe this is that in any random group of 100 people you will share very close synastry via Venus Sun aspects with at least 5 of them, but you will share close Venus declinations within the same orb with more than 10. Magi astrology teach a lot about declination placing a great deal of emphasis on parallels and cps. They have never said why, they have never published research and while there is no reason to believe that they aren’t useful in astrology, it is necessary to halve and perhaps quarter the orb you would use for longitudinal aspects when you compare them. As for what they mean, I haven’t done any research in this area yet. Most people say a Venus parallel is like a Venus conjunction and the CP like an opposition. But no one as far as I know has tested this.

The Sun and Venus in quincunx or semisextile is not a relationship aspect, but conjunctions, oppositions and trines are... and further down the scale Sun Venus sextiles are also important

^ the sextile (but also the quintile) becomes significant in the research after removing all the SV trines, conjunctions and oppositions, heard him say that more than once. It is not that strongly felt so chances you will meet someone with one of the biggies resulting in a much stronger pull, is clearly there (so to speak)