posted August 18, 2022 11:26 AM            

I visited him in early July (he’s 10 hours away) and it was magical, after that is when the dynamic chanted a bit and became more uranus, I see him again in mid September so we’ll see how that goes

We both in our own charts natally have venus opposite uranus. Mine is venus in leo opposite uranus in Aquarius and his is venus in Gemini opposite uranus in Sag. In his chart his venus is additionally opposite saturn. And our venus/uranus oppositions double whammy hit both our respective charts - my Leo venus conjunct his sun/merc, trine his Aries moon/mars, my uranus opposite and sextile those - and in his chart my virgo moon/Pisces Jupiter opposition lands exactly between his venus and uranus/saturn, squaring all of them in a big mutable grand cross?? I guess? I think that’s right? Then my saturn which is ruler of my 5th house squares his sun/merc. And uranus is ruler of his 7th house. Oh and his venus is out of sign sextile my sun (late Gemini, early virgo) so we have DW venus sun as well. DW venus sun and moon aspects! And his sun semi square my moon! And DW venus jupiter aspects (square and quintile), and my Jupiter is in his 8th house

So like his venus hits my moon and sun and my venus hits his moon and sun, but his uranus and saturn square my moon exactly too. My uranus is sextile his moon/mars and opposite his sun. My saturn is also in a loose square with his sun idk if it counts it’s like 7 degrees away (and my mars also loosely conjuncts his sun). But does it seem like since we both have uranus opposite our venuses natally and both of those planets in both of each other’s charts are pretty activated and uranus rules his descendant that maybe we could handle all that uranus? Or is it a pretty big red flag that my moon is squared by his uranus and saturn? :///

Oh and my venus is square his pluto!!!!

Also my Leo mars which is my Aries 8th house ruler is trine his Aries moon/mars conjunction which lands in my 8th house and is also in his own 8th house, completing a grand fire trine with my natal Sagittarius pluto/IC conjunction!!! And his 5th house ruler is Jupiter which is in Gemini conjunct my MC and square my sun. And his Gemini venus is in my 10th house.

I have great chemistry with him like holy crap. We haven’t had s*x because we’re both religious and want to wait until marriage this time around (which we’ve been talking about marriage but idk if we’ll get there) but oh man the freaking sexual tension is insaaannneeeeeee. I just wanna like bang each other’s brains out but like make love at the same time. And I actually want him to just take me and rough me up, I don’t only want to strictly “make love” with him. Because I feel like his raw sexual passion towards me even if aggressive would still be tied with love, it wouldn’t feel disrespectful or cold, I don’t think. If we were married I just know physical intimacy would be like all the time, multiple times a day. When he looks at me sometimes it’s so full of desire it’s like he could freaking devour me literally like dinner, he’s not a civilized human he’s a barbarian hunter who hasn’t eaten in days. And it’s combined with like emotion and heart. He is very attracted to me physically and his attraction to me is really sexy and turns me on because I’ve never felt so like wanted and desired by someone before, and in such a specific way that I like too, and it’s not just selfish and physical there’s like expectation/hope for the future involved too, which is so important for my leo venus because I really need love involved for sex to have a chance. And not only that but also it’s not like an overwhelming or borderline too intense chemistry - it’s strong and it’s there but it also feels natural. Like two halves of one whole coming back together and perfectly matching each other’s energy.

posted August 19, 2022 12:00 PM            

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My natal

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Our synastry

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Our composite

posted August 19, 2022 12:19 PM            

Comp sun conjunct his natal Asc
Comp Asc conjunct my natal Sun
Comp moon sextile my sun and square his moon, also square my moon out of sign
Comp moon conjunct his natal chiron
Comp Chiron conjunct my natal Asc

Comp Saturn exactly conjunct comp Dsc!!!!!!! Glue right?! Marriage aspect?! The saturn is also opposite my sun/conjunct my natal South node and the Asc/Dsc in the composite falls right on my NN/SN

Venus opp uranus in comp which is just both our own natal venus/uranus opp showing up again. Honestly I’m really not worried about that aspect I think we’d both handle it well since we both have it

Also comp moon and venus are both in cancer which looks great to meeeeee aw like super sweet and affectionate and emotionally soft right
Omg and venus trine pluto in composite!!! That looks hot

posted August 19, 2022 03:55 PM            

Those composite aspects to natal planets you mentioned look amazing, it mainly shows that you both can feel pretty involved and into each other... however, you need to always consider that single aspects, even when very positive, don't give you the full picture of the situation, only "single" elements, and you need to link them all together to grab the dynamics of things.

So by looking at your birth data I've pulled a Composite chart myself cause I have added Vertex, Lilith, Nessus and Juno.

The synastry is intense for attraction, I would say it all looks pretty much "push and pull", harmonious ones on the emotional level mixed with strong sexual drive and also aspects showing strong instability and conflict on different planes... but looking at the Composite I see why you feel so deeply drawn to this person.

First off you guys have Mars conjunct North Node, which is a soulmate aspect, and this is square to Chiron AND Mars is square to Saturn... This is clearly a strong karmic configuration about re-connecting with an old soulmate, yes it's a strong glue striving to get together and SOLVE whatever is unfinished or unstable between you two. This may be more complicated than how it seems at first, cause, again there is a strong push and pull, Mars/North Node wants this relationship to get going, Chiron square to this wants to heal all the issues to accomplish your soulmate feelings and great sense of intimacy, Saturn on DSC opposite Juno gives a lot of weight to the achievement of this bond but since it is square to Mars and opposite to Juno, it can give a lot of obstacles and frustration on the realistic plane, and it's asking for seriousness and efforts in committing to all that... This means that if you (both) REALLY want to get together, Saturn is asking serious efforts and devotion, but Mars square Saturn does not often signal true devotion and that there may be an issue for committment. Moreover, when Saturn is conjunct DSC, yes it signals a deep bond but also challenges for things to take off the ground. Of course Juno on the ASC opposite Saturn gives this strong feeling of "marriage material", and that's likely why you ended up even talking about that, but with Saturn square Mars and Mars square to Chiron there's great indecisiveness on whether one feels seriously committed and ready for the efforts required by the actual situation. Saturn is also square to the IC/MC axis, which puts a further weight and restrictions to the bond.... You luckily have Moon trine to Saturn sextile Jupiter, which helps to support and ease the Saturn and the Chiron burdens at emotional level, so you both clearly feel the emotional harmony and affection between you two.
Another challenging aspect in this whole picture is Composite Uranus/Neptune opposite Venus... not just Uranus can make things unstable or short lived here, but Neptune opposite Venus adds a strong "fleeting" vibe, it can give a lot of rose-colored glass, but usually a "friends with benefits" aspect and sometime signaling different culture or country... but together with Uranus, it strongly looks like long distance relationship where is difficult to establish committment on realistic/daily plane.
Vertex is also opposite Venus and square to Jupiter, this looks very fated and adds the soulmate feeling given by Mars conjunct North Node, Vertex can also give overwhelming desire for each other but it is usually too otherworldly and difficult to manifest on the earthly plane so usually with such strong Vertex there may be unfinished business or the feeling that it's difficult to achieve everything that we had imagined would happen...
Then, you also have Eros square Psyche, and Eros is trine to North Node/Mars (!) another strong "soulmate" aspect empowering this intense pull for intimacy and chemistry, mainly what you said about sex merged with true love, this is a very "heavenly aspect", together with Lilith also trine to Mars...
And then, to complete the picture, you have Sun in 12th house square Pluto, whereas Pluto is conjunct IC and trine to Venus..... another quite karmic yet overwhelming aspect which can make feelings quite obsessive for each other but again with the 12th house involved there's this "unresolved" vibe overlooking.
Basically, yes, there are all intense elements for a dramatic love story my friend!

My honest opinion is that this is a very karmic meeting about healing whatever is not serving you well at this time in your individual lives, that you need to go through this in order to challenge yourself about what you both truly want to achieve in life or at romantic level and what you're willing to do in order to accomplish your desires. It is not impossible but it requires serious devotion and to be true to yourself... cosider though that, to me, the most challenging aspect in this composite is Saturn square Mars, so I honestly suggest you to make sure he's "seriously" into this before you make big efforts to establish this relationship. You are a very brilliant Virgo woman and need to find more stability in your life, there a re afew elements in your birth chart that signal you may be wasting some of your most practical skills while you need to fight against an unstable path which may have blockages (natal Saturn quincunx Pluto and square to Neptune/Mars)... Keep an eye to transiting Saturn when it is conjunct to Composite Saturn in March 2023, that may be a "break it or make it" transit for this relationship.

posted August 19, 2022 05:02 PM            

I feel like we have a good chance and I’m patiently seeing what’s gonna happen. One of the issues manifest is that my priest isn’t allowing me to date right now until my annulment goes through which will take a few more months. And he is impatient and frustrated because he wants to be with me. But at the same time is kind of afraid of a relationship messing some things up in his life because he is a single dad to a 2 year old and that’s his priority understandably, along with his job. He has shared custody with his son’s mother, she has him most of the week and he gets him for several hours 3 days a week. And he is afraid of her because she is extremely critical and judgmental of him and he doesn’t want anything to jeopardize his access to his son. But he also is the most comfortable with me being around his son and as an influence in his life, like he’d be completely comfortable and secure with me as a step mom and he trusts me completely. He also said before that if we didn’t work out that he probably wouldn’t be with anyone else and that anyone that possibly came after me would be compared to me and I said the same to him (about a partner being compared to him). I’m also his like ideal of a partner and ideal of a woman. And he said a couple times that he loves that I’m like the kind of girl he’d have wanted to date in high school (aesthetically).

Another logistical problem is the distance definitely. But we’re definitely at least going to try a relationship once I’m allowed to. Tbh the thing you mentioned about saturn in March of 2023 makes sense because I feel like if he proposes that it would be around that time (we have talked about possibly getting married in September of 2023), or I suppose we might end it then if things go south.

But based on everything you’ve seen do you think the relationship will be a success if we can just get through the waiting period + working out the practical issues we have?

One thing that’s a good thing for him is that he has lots of anger issues as seen by his Aries moon/mars conjunction, and I have a lot of patience for it and absolutely no judgment towards his angry side which he said normally people hate that about him. I’m the only person outside of his family that’s seen the complete range of his emotions and stuck around through it which he said is a good sign (and his sons mother hasn’t seen this side of him at all). And he apologizes to me for his behavior and emotions periodically. And says things recognizing that he needs to just get used to things being different because it’s a new relationship and he’s used to being alone, and it seems like he’s willing to work on those things and adjust for me he just needs time and space to do so. And regularly is like “thank you for being there for me” “thank you for being here” “I’m sorry for how I am” “thank you for listening” and my lack of judgment and my patience for him has a moving emotional affect on him, he feels very accepted by me

Also!!!!
“You are a very brilliant Virgo woman and need to find more stability in your life, there a re afew elements in your birth chart that signal you may be wasting some of your most practical skills while you need to fight against an unstable path which may have blockages (natal Saturn quincunx Pluto and square to Neptune/Mars)”

posted August 19, 2022 06:39 PM            

"But based on everything you’ve seen do you think the relationship will be a success if we can just get through the waiting period + working out the practical issues we have?"

posted August 19, 2022 08:17 PM            

The stuff you said about my chart does resonate — I have a hard time with accomplishing personal goals that I want, I get distracted and waste time on other things. Organization, studies, health stuff like working out and etc. I need to work on establishing routine and structure in my day and I struggle a lot with doing so even though I desperately need it to function optimally. And I struggle so much with following through on things. How can I overcome my mars/Neptune opposition and mars/saturn square? How does one go about channeling that energy in a way it needs to be channeled?

In spite of that though I have managed to finish massage therapy school and this past year (since last summer when I got licensed /fall I started working) I was working 2 different massage jobs getting experience and I just landed my dream massage job at a beautiful spa that actually finally pays fairly for the work and started working there last week — and in October I am starting esthetician school so I can be dual licensed!

posted August 20, 2022 04:37 PM            

The composite Chiron/Sun midpoint conjunct Juno/ASC opposite Saturn resonates with the fact that one of the two people in the couple may have great responisibility and ties outside the relationship which may potentially have a weight or become a burden or a stressful element in the relationship, or that simply this will require involvement in those responabilities, composite Chiron/Sun is usually found in couples where one of the two people has children from past relationships or specific ties to an ex (wife or girlfriend) or has to take care of a family member, a disable person or an elderly person... so in your case I think that Chiron/Sun midpoint conjunct Juno opposite Saturn may signal that whether you commit in this relationship with him you will likely be involved in those responsabilities with his child. To me, this configuration looks a bit "heavy" cause of the Saturn opposition and this is why I said that it could potentially bring some kind of challenge... maybe the mere fact that his experience with his ex can have an influence at emotional level, is this the reason for your detachment at this time, as you initially mentioned in the post?

Oh, it's sweet of him to have send that message! Thanks for sharing 💙
C'mon, give him a chance :-)

posted August 28, 2022 06:03 PM            

However. I’m still feeling distant and like our connection has been damaged. Because I started emotionally and mentally preparing myself that we wouldn’t be together, and started like already moving on so that it wouldn’t hurt if we weren’t together. I stopped thinking about all the future plans we talked about and that I had in my head, so that it wouldn’t hurt if it didn’t happen. And also at that point I started talking more to a guy I’m friends with that I was beginning to be interested in before I started talking to the guy this thread is about. I haven’t been flirting with him but we’ve had some long phone calls and hung out (he goes to my church, so if we tried dating he’d be the first guy that wouldn’t be a long distance relationship) and we have texted pretty much every day. This happened because I felt like with main guy, there was a chance it wouldn’t go anywhere and so I needed to just start moving on basically and not holding my breath for him. And just see what happens. And also I really like to talk to someone about thoughts I have and I like sharing conversation with someone throughout the day but with main guy I realized it was too much for him and he was feeling like a bit suffocated by it so I stopped sharing all of that with him and started talking to someone else with more of my random thoughts and ideas or whatever. So I now have a connection of some sort with the other guy and somewhat of an attraction… I’m not really seeing myself with him but if main guy wasn’t in the picture at all I’d probably give it a try. We’re just friends but we do connect well so far and I can tell he’s interested in me now...

Main guy is still the one I’m leaning a lot more towards, but now my mind is like partially split between them. Can you look at my charts with the other guy? I think it’s more of like a not so impressive or deeply significant synastry but his venus is in 1* virgo exactly conjunct my sun/NN and with a 7* orb my virgo ascendant, and his Jupiter is 5* virgo sitting in between my sun and ascendant. And once I saw that it made complete sense to me because he really validates and seems to connect to a lot of basic core identity things about me and how I express myself. And connects mentally with me really well, possibly because of something with Mercury that I can’t remember, but also probably since his venus is on my sun/NN/ascendant and it’s all ruled by Mercury. The venus jupiter sun ascendant conjunction is mainly what I remember

Oh and his scorpio moon is opposite my saturn, sextile my sun/ascendant, square my mars and loosely uranus, and his venus/Jupiter is trine my saturn as well.
My late degree virgo moon is also loosely conjunct his early degree libra rising

I’ll post the charts soon

posted August 28, 2022 06:15 PM            

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Our composite

posted September 24, 2022 12:21 PM            

I’m not even thinking or curious about anyone else anymore like I’m so totally devoted to and set on the guy the thread was originally about. I just got back from visiting him and I’m feeling very hopeful about our potential and future, I really want and hope to marry him