posted August 21, 2022 08:41 AM            

Juno and Union are konjunct (2 degree) and 1 degree after Union there is the south node. This means they are in opposition with the north node. And, idk if relevant or not but Psyche is konjunct 3 degree the north node.

Juno is aspected sextile by Eros in 1 degree and squared by Neptune within 2 degree. Jupiter is in opposition within 2 degree as well.

Juno is also five degree away from the IC but I think that is too far too have a meaning...

posted August 21, 2022 02:54 PM            

Okay, I can get the whole chart! I am mainly curious about the asterois but every analysis is welcome!

Composite:
[IMG]https://s20.directupload.net/images/220821/temp/mvi2n63g.png[/IMG]

And here the synastry:
[IMG]https://s20.directupload.net/images/220821/temp/wmlpjjzo.png[/IMG]

posted August 21, 2022 05:18 PM            

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Jupiter on MC and conjunct North Node looks like a strong bond.

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It was, we both didn't really agree to the ending. But as you say, there was an influence, a significant burden!

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Psyche conjunct North Node/Jupiter is trine to Eros and this forms a grand trine with Vertex, it is a soulmate aspect, so this looks like a very fated and deep bond again... Chiron in the 12th house may signal that there is a karmic healing to be found in this relationship, it may be unresolved...

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I certainly feel it's soul mate material, and it helped me (in retrorespect) heal much stuff.

But the question is, is there a chance of us getting back together? I'm all for it but with all that happened, he's moved on and is so far away, in another relationship too and as it seems never wants to deal with me again. Any insights on that?

PS I will check what transits happened at the time of break up if I am able to :-)

posted August 21, 2022 05:57 PM            

Who is who in synastry?

If you dont mind telling me the time of separation I could look at transits to composite... if at that time transiting south node was hitting Saturn, Uranus or Neptune, I am afraid it is unlikely that you may come back together...

You may have a chance to reconnect at the end of the year or early next year when Jupiter goes direct again through composite MC/Jupiter/North Node... but it does look unstable with the square to Uranus, so it may be a temporary reconnection... maybe, a more stable reconnection or a definitive "healing" turning point of some kind may happen when transiting north node is conjunct to composite North Node at the end of 2024.

posted August 21, 2022 06:04 PM            

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Who is who in synastry?

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I am the one with the libra sun, the blue planets.

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If you dont mind telling me the time of separation I could look ta transits... if at that time transiting south node was hitting Saturn, Uranus or Neptune, I am afraid it is unlikely that you may come back together...

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Well, the break up was made definit at 19. November 2011. Sadly I couldn't find a way to have those transists on the composite in astro.com but you're very welcome to look!

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You may have a chance to reconnect at the end of the year or early next year when Jupiter goes direct again through composite MC/Jupiter/North Node... but it does look instable with the square to Uranus, so it may be a temporary reconnection... maybe, a more stable reconnection or a definitive "healing" turning point of some kind may happen when transiting north node is conjunct to composite North Node at the end of 2024.

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Very interesting! I'm excited to see what will come to pass.

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On a side note, just noticing that the Mars/Venus midpoint is conjunct to the Juno/Jupiter opposition. This really looks like you both feel as the other is the ONE. It is an outstanding composite.

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Wow, that's so nice to hear :-)

posted August 21, 2022 06:06 PM            

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Originally posted by Stoika7:
Sorry I see your last edit only now... His Chiron conjunct his neptune was likely what pushed him to move on...

Another transit to look at is trasntiting Neptune. If it was exactly square to composite Saturn, then it would signal that the relationship may be definitely ended... same as transiting south node to neptune or uranus...

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No, it was transitioning Chiron close to his NN, and also the transitioning Neptune conjunct his sun. Sorry if I'm unclear, english isn't my first language and astrology feels like a whole new language in itself too...

posted August 21, 2022 06:40 PM            

I am looking at transits to composite for november 2011, transiting Uranus was conjunct composite Jupiter square to comp. Sun/mercury/uranus, and the nodes were transiting through the saturn/uranus/sun stellium with south node just past Chiron and conjunct Ceres, and north node conjunct Saturn... with the square from transiting Uranus it looks like an abrupt separation, even though south node to comp. Chiron looks like "moving on"... with these transits, it seems to me that a separation may be definitive, especially cause of the nodal transit axis, but still the vibe of "unfinished" may be there with the Uranus transit square. transiting Saturn was conjunct composite Moon and to your natal Sun square to your natal Moon, back then, and square to his Moon, so the detachment was painful for both of you...

I see that transiting Saturn retrograde has gone through your Saturn and so you may have been "reviewing" this whole wound from the past lately... and tr. Pluto is conjunct to your Moon square to your Sun, which is likely keeping you "stuck" emotionally... ? But you will have transiting north node conjunct to your north node at the end of the year and this, along with Saturn going direct, may help you look "ahead".

posted August 22, 2022 04:04 AM            

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transiting Uranus was conjunct composite Jupiter square to comp. Sun/mercury/uranus, and the nodes were transiting through the saturn/uranus/sun stellium with south node just past Chiron and conjunct Ceres, and north node conjunct Saturn... with the square from transiting Uranus it looks like an abrupt separation, even though south node to comp. Chiron looks like "moving on"... with these transits, it seems to me that a separation may be definitive, especially cause of the nodal transit axis, but still the vibe of "unfinished" may be there with the Uranus transit square. transiting Saturn was conjunct composite Moon and to your natal Sun square to your natal Moon, back then, and square to his Moon, so the detachment was painful for both of you...

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Wow, that's a lot to take in. But you're right about the past with 'abrupt separation', 'painful for both' annd 'unfinished'. I am at least trying to finish whatever is unfinished, because I know due to the circumstances there is still pain burried on both sides and now is the time I'm healing myself. I hope he can do it too and not be too resentful even when it's a definitiv separation. This doesn't mean we aren't able to talk again to smoothen the past out, though, right? (I mean, leaving it like that, not sure what we have to take on in the next life then haha.)

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I see that transiting Saturn retrograde has gone through your Saturn and so you may have been "reviewing" this whole wound from the past lately... and tr. Pluto is conjunct to your Moon square to your Sun, which is likely keeping you "stuck" emotionally... ? But you will have transiting north node conjunct to your north node at the end of the year and this, along with Saturn going direct, may help you look "ahead".

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Yes, trans. Pluto has been in my 7. house (where my moon is) since 2018 and will be until 2026, so I guess this is the time for renewing my mind about relationships!

Either way, end of the year might bring some fresh wind and I'm looking forward to it.

posted August 25, 2022 04:42 PM            

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But also tr. Saturn to your Saturn.

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posted August 26, 2022 02:58 PM            

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Originally posted by Stoika7:
Transiting Saturn retrograde had recently past square to your saturn in scorpio (is that you, the blue one, in synastry, right?), and it will be square again to your Saturn when it is direct again later this year... did I say conjunct instead of square maybe by mistake? in any case its effects on your saturn as for "reviwing" your past would be pretty much the same...

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I'm not sure if you said konjunct or square, but I was looking for both and didn't see it, but now you said it past the square it makes more sense. That wouldn't be shown in a transit chart of today then. Yes, I have my Saturn in Scorpio, in the 5th house!

What does it mean, btw, when Sun, Pluto, Mercury and Saturn are in my 5th house alltogether? I always viewed this as the thing that makes it hard for me to just let go and enjoy life...

posted August 28, 2022 03:48 PM            

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Originally posted by Stoika7:
The 5th house gives a "Leo vibe" to your planets in the house, Saturn here gives you a more serious tone to your approach on things, so yes mainly Saturn here would make it hard for you to take things easy and maybe look at the less bright light of things? But your Sun in the 5th has still that bright light so a constant research of the bright side of things is possible. Mercury in Scorpio in the 5th house is also interesting, are you mainly introvert, holding things/feelings/thoughts back but standing out in your communication when you are more at ease in a familiar environment? I wonder how this plays out for you :-)

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Yes, I am introvert and I don't make smalltalk, I always go in way too deep if I have something to say. (I first observe and then decide if it's worth talking.) If I feel secure, I can be a babblemouth though. I guess that's the Leo-House-Vibe. The combination of Leo-Scorpio is one full of opposites lol!

Saturn and Pluto in Scorpio together with the south node... it sure feels like the heaviest part of my chart.

posted September 02, 2022 04:01 PM            

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Originally posted by vansio:
As a fellow Pluto in 5H (and Leo Chiron) Native, you need to disclose your full feelings to him. Or else you’re torturing yourself. Keep it simple, sweetie. How you end up phrasing such doesn’t matter, it’s not meant for him to react to, yet with him in mind - just figure out how to do it. ‘Bother the other person’ however often you feel called to. If this were to embarrass [scare] you (maybe because it seems repetitive or exaggerated), good. Work through embodying your Pluto energy. Be honest. empowerment.

Practice exposing yourself comprehensively - an expression tinged with romanticism (fundamental vulnerability, even tragedy) that may or may not be reciprocated, though eventually enacting this would no longer feel so critical, after enough blows. Accept yourself, accept your feelings, and share them. Skill requires practice, start today.

Tell him whatever you want. (You’re an arse / the love of my life / I want more, etc) just be honest (or extra, eloquent) for once and for all. To them.
Ps, you won’t “move on” until you [continue to] express yourself. And I don’t mean by detailing your “thoughts” about a situation til you’re blue in the face, rather, express/perform/act-on your baseline feeling. Act-on = move-on

Us 5H Pluto people will not stand to be repressed culturally, creatively, romantically, existentially. Get there, babe. Do it (take action) for you; you’re amazing, and powerful, and sexy, and divine, and deep. I’m proud of us to say, more than any other Pluto house placement, Love (crushing, being crushed) only makes us stronger. It’s the territory. Believe it.

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