posted December 01, 2022 01:19 AM            

This might be the most interesting synastry I've had in a while - and there are actually similar aspects that I experienced in an important past long-term relationship (the Taurus stellium square my Leo stellium).

I am of the belief that the hard aspects "make things happen" - good or bad - and that they are necessary for a real relationship to even start.

But, do you think that this synastry might have too many?

(And also, the composite is here too!)

posted December 08, 2022 07:37 PM            

Well, first up, you need his TOB to locate vertex. Not sure if you have that.

With charts like this that are complex with challenges, I like to assess the natal charts, to see what resources the individuals have inside of themselves to manage the dynamism of challenging aspects. I also like to look at pattern configurations in the natal charts, and synastry pattern completions.

Not looking at individual charts here then, but going by the synastry aspect grid alone (which is most helpful), honestly.. it may be fun and dynamic for a time but, given the lots of challenges, I'd like to see some super smooth and abundant connections with the more personal planets: Sun, Moon, Venus. But they just arent here, really..

Sure there's a (his) Jupiter conjunct Moon, that, incidentally can start things off with a bang (same goes for the Mars to Venus and the Mars to Sun easy aspects: starts things with a bang), but what is the condition of your Moon natally? If it's a bit crap, then his Jupiter could eventually only enlarge the crapness. And, honestly, while Jupiter is fun, Jupiter is a still pretty distant, selfish, exploitative, and not very sensitive. His Jupiter here I hazard a guess, will eventually irritate the Moon; make the Moon insecure and nervous.

And then his Moon doesn't have much either.. The Saturn sextile from you to his Moon is great, sure but it's not enough.. What's the natal condition of HIS Moon? If it's challenged, it may really like that lovely Saturn aspect a heap. Dito for your Saturn to his Venus, and Mercury - they are all really nice and stablising.

BUT.. they are all especially nice IN CONTRAST to the rest of the synastry that is so challenging. Like when one sunny day is especially nice when it's been raining for weeks. It doesn't make the rain go away though. And, it can be irritating and make people angry that there aren't more sunny days. And that ONE sunny day may become too much of a focus (create dependency, and with reduced easy dialogue in the planetary synastry elsewhere = boredom and frustration).

Given again, the many challenges elsewhere in the synastry, these easy Saturn aspects from your Saturn to his Moon, Venus, and Mercury will be a nice place to hide out in the synastry/relationship. But only for a while... until, over TIME, the other challenged aspects start to make themselves known more and more. Which can be a rude awakening.

In this case, maybe more than just rude actually.. because there are not many other pleasant aspects to hang out in for comfort or understanding. And if the hard aspects become no-go zones because you fight too much, the relationship may become boring because you are constraining yourselves to only a small section of the synastry (such as your Saturn to his Moon, venus, Murcury) to keep the peace.

Over time too, the planets that don't have much expression (like the Moons) may start complaining they are not having their needs met. And, people have different ways of "complaining".. Some people can be abusive, or they drain the other person, dependency starts, manipulations etc. See the natal charts.

Further, your Saturn providing a lot of support to him; him receiving those nice aspects would really be liking that (would be interesting to assess his natal chart). And, if you were about the same age (you aren't I see), he would be accustomed to receiving that support from his peers, so, your support may be taken for granted anyhow.

No matter your ages, he is not giving a lot back, instead he has a heap of harsh aspects from Saturn to you.... I don't like it. Especially as he is older (and quite a bit). What I am saying is that, this synastry is becoming to seem very unbalanced, similar age or not. And this also applies to the Pluto aspects, which is another story but also reflects the power imbalance of this synastry.

Again, the Saturn from you in this particular synastry is a focal point of the synastry because it's really the only dominant harmony point in this synastry within the realm of personal planets (Neptune and Chiron are the others). In this particular case it might be nice, only for a time before the rest of the sheetshow shows up.

Additionally, there seem to be a couple of quintiles and a biquintile... these are very special aspects. They will see people through hard times. But have to ask here: at what cost? There are too many semisquares in this synastry .. and with Mars = you may have quite a bad time.

Finally! The Chiron aspects... wow, wow... Chiron conjuncts on one side, and trines the other.. Ok... it's going to be hard to give this up. Given that you're NOT the same generation, this would be the other dominant harmony point in this synastry. Looking at the natal charts is really important with this synastry. I believe you want to explore the maturity, and/or the exploitative nature of the individuals, etc.

In summary: There seems to be an imbalance of power in this synastry? And the Neptune, Chiron, and the Saturn feels so nice and actually could be great foundations for a relationship. But, they are so nice and alluring they can definitely lure one person into a situation that could be very difficult in the long run when there is not enough support with the more personal planets. Which is the case here. Particular troubling for only 2 examples, are the Mars and Moon voids and connections. Indeed, it can come downtomars, as Mars is so reactive (as is the Moon).

Discussion:
The op asks if it's long-term? I really dislike calling these things as it potentially interferes with freewill. However, OTOH, I like to gamble and take odds for fun. And I speculate this is a cut and dry synastry, and, which includes south node on Saturn, all adding up to not having the longevity. Again, it worries me that the benefits in this synastry are lop-sided.

Other factors include: it depends on people's ages, too. When young, you want to explore life and experience and synastry like this is exciting and dynamic. When you get old, you are more tired and don't have time for too much challenge. So these things come into it also.

What is longevity anyhow? Many people dive into a relationships and, over some years - sometimes a lifetime - the stress of some relationship makes them a basketcase, AND keeps them away from other opportunities that would be happier and healthier. Quality of the relationship is what's important over those years. So it's always a good idea to perform a cost/benefit analysis (which is why astrology is fab)

All IMO..