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HieronymusTush
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posted January 18, 2023 06:27 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for HieronymusTush     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
hello beautiful people of Lindaland, I hope the community is well since I've last been here.

I've been working with a collaborator for about two years now (we're both women), I think I'm the more idealistic and perfectionist of the duo (hence my bouts of pessimism and control issues) and she's more practical and i would say, self-serving.

I'm generally happy with our working relationship but every once in a while there's serious underlying tension and trust issues I think. the output is great, but i routinely get the feeling i'm being used on her part for some personal professional gain and cannot feel comfortable and trusting. do you spot this in the composite? any words of advice?

PS. oops! just realized the subject line looks completely insane as it got cut off by the word limit. sorry! lol

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Stoika7
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posted January 18, 2023 08:58 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Stoika7     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hi HieronymusT !! Nice to hear from you :-)

The composite looks nice at professional level with Sun/MC/Neptune in Capricorn sextile Pluto in the 8th house, and Venus-Mercury in the tenth house square the nodes, it seems there is synergy and common grounds/goals, quite productive, even though Jupiter square Saturn in the picture can make things unstable, creates uncertainties and maybe this collaboration is not going to be long term. Mars square Uranus is clearly a sign of "tension", there is this electric energy between you two, likely you're a bit different at personal level and this energy of conflict may easily arise out of nowhere... Pluto is exactly square to Venus and this may feel a bit disturbing, maybe this is why you feel that kind of expoitation/manipulation, and along with Neptune square to ASC, a subtle trust issue... The Mars/Neptune midpoint is opposite Moon, square to Nodes/Pluto, so again yes, there's some "grey zone" underlying this connection, which may also give a sense of unclear direction, i.e. given from not being sure if this person you work with is utterly trustworthy. It may just depend on her own competitive attitude and not plain manipulative intentions, but still you feel this, the Venus/Pluto/Nodes square is very intense.

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anevolena
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posted January 18, 2023 09:11 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for anevolena     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hello HieronymusTush (great name),

I think I do. I see Venus Conjunct Mercury, opposite Moon, both square the nodes. Plus Pluto exactly conjuncting the south node. If the birth times are right, Sun and Neptune on the MC.

Does your work involve art in some way? Regardless, I believe I read Venus can represent wealth, partnership, right there conjunct Mercury in the 10H I think represents a working relationship. That, and the Sun conjunct the MC. With the Sun conjunct Neptune, I think that can lead to that element of distrust you speak of. You aren't quite sure the "definition" of the relationship.

With Venus and Mercury opposite the Moon, the heart of your dynamic is at odds with the professional side. A great attraction and you work well together, but it isn't quite seemless. With this opposition square the nodes, working out this challenge is a large theme of your relationship. With Pluto conjunct the south node, control and power struggles is an undercurrent of sorts running through your interaction. If you believe in past lives, I'd venture to say you two had a similar dynamic where one took advantage or betrayed the other. Now you have karma to work out.

You actually have a very dynamic composite chart. That grand cross with the nodes immediately stood out to me. I believe grand crosses or grand squares is a big karmic indicator.

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HieronymusTush
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posted January 26, 2023 10:58 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for HieronymusTush     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Stoika7:
Hi HieronymusT !! Nice to hear from you :-)

The composite looks nice at professional level with Sun/MC/Neptune in Capricorn sextile Pluto in the 8th house, and Venus-Mercury in the tenth house square the nodes, it seems there is synergy and common grounds/goals, quite productive, even though Jupiter square Saturn in the picture can make things unstable, creates uncertainties and maybe this collaboration is not going to be long term. Mars square Uranus is clearly a sign of "tension", there is this electric energy between you two, likely you're a bit different at personal level and this energy of conflict may easily arise out of nowhere... Pluto is exactly square to Venus and this may feel a bit disturbing, maybe this is why you feel that kind of expoitation/manipulation, and along with Neptune square to ASC, a subtle trust issue... The Mars/Neptune midpoint is opposite Moon, square to Nodes/Pluto, so again yes, there's some "grey zone" underlying this connection, which may also give a sense of unclear direction, i.e. given from not being sure if this person you work with is utterly trustworthy. It may just depend on her own competitive attitude and not plain manipulative intentions, but still you feel this, the Venus/Pluto/Nodes square is very intense.


Hi dearest Stoika! I hope you've been very well since the last time we spoke.

The situation is exactly how you describe it, it's not exactly a collaboration based on trust but rather some productive energy that just results in good outcomes. Currently trying to find ways to manuever the struggle of continuing the work without playing into the competitive attitude.

Thank you so much for your insightful take. <3

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HieronymusTush
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posted January 26, 2023 11:01 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for HieronymusTush     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by anevolena:
Hello HieronymusTush (great name),

I think I do. I see Venus Conjunct Mercury, opposite Moon, both square the nodes. Plus Pluto exactly conjuncting the south node. If the birth times are right, Sun and Neptune on the MC.

Does your work involve art in some way? Regardless, I believe I read Venus can represent wealth, partnership, right there conjunct Mercury in the 10H I think represents a working relationship. That, and the Sun conjunct the MC. With the Sun conjunct Neptune, I think that can lead to that element of distrust you speak of. You aren't quite sure the "definition" of the relationship.

With Venus and Mercury opposite the Moon, the heart of your dynamic is at odds with the professional side. A great attraction and you work well together, but it isn't quite seemless. With this opposition square the nodes, working out this challenge is a large theme of your relationship. With Pluto conjunct the south node, control and power struggles is an undercurrent of sorts running through your interaction. If you believe in past lives, I'd venture to say you two had a similar dynamic where one took advantage or betrayed the other. Now you have karma to work out.

You actually have a very dynamic composite chart. That grand cross with the nodes immediately stood out to me. I believe grand crosses or grand squares is a big karmic indicator.


hi anevolena, lovely to meet you. our work does involve art and pretty much nothing else but so much of art is politics, and here I find myself in these pickles having to deal with a language I fully understand (grew up with a scorpio father) yet do not wish to speak

It's a constant cycle of relaxation and tension.

so I take it you agree our collaboration is not for the long term, do I understand your reading correctly?

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Randall
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posted January 26, 2023 05:11 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Randall     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Welcome back!

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posted February 11, 2023 11:57 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Randall     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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