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StoneMoon
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posted January 22, 2023 09:11 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for StoneMoon     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hi Stoika,

I would love your perspective on this composite. I brought it up in another thread and got some feedback but I am curious what your interpretation might be. I had a reading with a medium recently and though I didn't ask, this person came up almost immediately.

I know this is a relationship from past life, and the connection is strong. I know it is not to be in this life. But there is a part of me that wants to know more, the story and the why behind it.

If you are around and have time, I would greatly appreciate your thoughts. I have always enjoyed your reading because it's a very different style and understanding than what I have, so the more you analyze, the more I learn. Thank you if you do catch this!

Me: TOB correct

Him: TOB correct

Composite: TOB correct

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Stoika7
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posted January 22, 2023 08:15 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Stoika7     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hi StoneMoon and thank you for asking for my take on this! I do appreciate your readings as well!

I see that this Composite looks karmic with South Node conjunct to the Moon/Juno midpoint in the twelve house... and with the nodes being square to Chiron. There is a subconscious bond linked to an emotional wound that you probably share. At past life level, if you believe in this, it symbolizes a past emotional wound between you two, so it looks like painful abandonment in a union or marriage. It does look like pointential abandonment also in this dimension... moreover, the Vertex is square to Saturn and Jupiter in the 7th house, suggesting that circumstances in this life keeps you separated or connected in unstable way, external factors or individual life path may be challenging for getting close, intimate and committed... even though the Vertex gives again the feelings about this strong and otherworldly bond... it looks also very otherworldly cause the nodes are also square to Mercury and Sun, and so there is a psychic/soul connection coming from astral planes. Neptune in the tenth house is opposite to Mars and to the Venus/Mars midpoint, which is trine to South Node/Moon... This looks very platonic, intense romantic feelings are there, but it could be that both or one of you is not available, i.e. in another relationship. Or, it could suggest a friends with benefit thing, and likely different cultural backgrounds... but in any case, it all looks intensly platonic. You natally share a Neptune/Mars square, so there may be a difficulty in committed relationships that you share... Especially in his natal chart, this difficulty looks strong with Neptune on DSC square to Mars in his 10th house, this may look like he's not interested/reliable in committed relationships, he may have trust issues and/or not being generally loyal himself... In any case, with Neptune/South Node in his 7th house he's attracted by platonic or spiritual connections maybe more than physical/sexual ones, even more so since he has Saturn/Pluto square Lilith in his eight house... this could suggest that he might have been through some kind of abuse in his childhood, at sexual level or just at psychological level, but something that may have hindered his confidence into the "physical" realm of relationships...
Back to your Composite, it seems to me that there may be some communication issues or block, cause Mercury is opposite Sun/Chiron (third house) and square to Moon... it could be that at subconscious level, communication between you two triggers past wounds.
In the big picture of the chart, yes I have the feeling that there is unfinished business...

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StoneMoon
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posted January 23, 2023 10:01 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for StoneMoon     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Thank you! Wow, so insightful.

Yes, any potential of relationship is not happening due to circumstances- he's married with kids. I am not doing that, having been on the receiving end of that one. We are not culturally different, but opposites while still being similar.

I have wondered about his wounds. He definitely hides his Pisces sensitivity beneath all that Aquarius armor. He comes up as the Emperor repeatedly, as well as Knight and King of Swords. All him. And I had wondered about the nature of the relationship. Something injured his masculinity, and I could agree with your thoughts on some sort of childhood experience.

I had a lot of dreams about him when we first started working together, where he was always a hero of sorts, saving a woman from some sort of wreckage... perhaps that was a past life experience.

So you feel his attraction is more spiritual and not physical attraction. That could make sense. He hides everything well. He is very much my type (personality) and also very much not. He is an attractive man, but I feel an odd match for him. However, I am aware I don't see myself as others do, so I have no idea. I think in management we could make a force to be reckoned with.

Unfinished business will have to wait until next life. But I definitely felt the connection, just couldn't figure out what it was and honestly would not have dared to expect a romantic one. Platonic is interesting. He would like me more as a healer and a friend than a lover? If we continue working together, which we likely will for several years to come, this platonic connection could have time to flourish. And perhaps that is the connection we need.

Tarot points to something else. Hierophant, two of cups, nine of cups, queen of cups... all repeating cards. I asked the spiritual connection of our relationship and received :

two of cups, queen of cups, death, and hierophant as the overall summary. I think this is confirming your viewpoint that we were together in another life, and pulled apart. That speaks to the abandonment.

Thank you as always for your thoughts. I try to store them away and really learn from how you view the chart. Connecting the midpoints and the links between the outer planets is something I love and want to learn about- you do it beautifully and so fluidly. Thank you for taking time to read this.

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posted January 23, 2023 08:03 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Stoika7     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Ehy, you're so welcome!

I just want to clarify that he does feel physical attraction for you. Comp. Mars trine Pluto and sextile Lilith and Eros conjunct Sun shows great mutual attraction! But Neptune opposite Mars forming the Kite is both romantic and platonic, so it seems that despite the attraction, likely the relationship plays out more in a platonic way, cause, in fact, he's not romantically available. Honestly, the neptune opposite Mars might also suggest that he could be unfaithful to his wife and have an affair with you, which you would not accept as you said, but still he could fantasize of such an affair with you... and, besides this, he likely feels the same psychic connection with you, maybe also dreaming of you.

I didn't consider the fact that you work together, and so now I understand why Saturn is conjunct Jupiter, this actually shows "material" achievements together, and it is sextile to MC, and so its about work, business, career.

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posted January 23, 2023 11:54 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for StoneMoon     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I understand what you are saying! This is coming together now. I did see one thing though- Actually the vertex is at 15 Virgo, in the 7th house, 5 degrees away from the DSC.

Saturn/Jupiter in the 7th is square to asteroid Valentine... I feel like work is preventing our ability to seek true love. Would that be correct? I would add too that in synastry our Valentines are sextile, and his Valentine trines my Juno. This points back to the soul connection that probably was love in another life?

and then Saturn Jupiter in 7th perfectly describes the nature of our relationship- business oriented.

Vertex now trines Sun/Chiron, but squares Venus Mars. How might you interpret that? (if I can ask you for your time again!)


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posted January 24, 2023 01:06 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Stoika7     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I think that Saturn/Jupiter square to Valentine may point to work versus love issue, but even without looking at this, I think it's not just working together alone that is preventing the relationship, maybe it adds to the challenge, but I feel that the real obstacle is the Neptune opposite Mars, i.e. the fact that he has a wife and family, in fact Neptune is in the tenth house (career, commitment), and Mars is in the fourth (family)... so it's likely the whole situation (work + he not being romantically available) that is challenging...

I had not seen the Vertex on the chart and now that I am aware of where it is placed it makes more sense. Vertex square Venus adds overwhelming soulmate loving feelings and the desire to be in a relationship with each other, but the Vertex square prevents it to manifest in the reality because its energy belongs to the otherworldly, where your psychic/soul connection belongs. This is usually an aspect of unattainable love, even though a relationship can still be possible, but usually there's no solid ground for some reason... a typical "romeo and juliet"-like aspect.

Sun conjunct Chiron, even if a bit wide, is another aspect suggesting that one of the two has other responsibilities/priorities outside this connection, in this case his priority is his wife/family, and so the Vertex suggests again that this is why a romantic relationship with you is challenged.

As I said in my first comment, yes, I believe that especially Moon/Juno midpoint conjunct South Node points to a possible past life love/union, but with the square to Chiron there was a wound, likely abandonement, and so there may be a karmic debt involved.

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posted January 24, 2023 05:01 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for StoneMoon     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Well I so appreciate your perspective and your time. Thank you so much! It has been fascinating to investigate. Kind of a roller coaster actually.

I hope he does not have much awareness of this connection, or the things I have awareness of. Because honestly it's been a lot for me to take in, and I have the knowledge and wisdom of tarot and astrology, and mediums to help me navigate. He does not. I understand it's in the past, and it's not meant to be acted upon. I pray he does too, in his own way.

I will send energy into the universe that we leave this karmic debt for another lifetime. And that we make the most of our career relationship, because I do believe we make a good team at work.

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