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444libra
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posted March 02, 2023 11:01 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for 444libra     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
This is the synastry and composite chart of my ex and I. This has been the most transformational relationship I've ever had, we met on my birthday in 2021 and started dating in February 2022 but he confessed something to me (not cheating, but lying) in march that made our relationship go downhill because I couldn't trust him anymore. Finally we broke up in August 2022 but we never stopped talking! We always clashed and argued and we tried so many times to stop talking to let ourselves move on but either he came back or I did. We always spoke about possibly trying again in the future if the time was right and we both worked on ourselves before we got back together. it genuinely felt so fated, and every time we stopped talking to each other it never felt like that was gonna be the end. Idk if that means we have some unfinished business or what. We recently ended our "friendship" on bad terms and we're both blocked but even now i'm not sure if it's forever. This relationship has been so healing personally, it's taught me how to express my emotions more and after it ended is when I started seeing a therapist and started my healing journey and all.

anywho I've been reading a bit about vertex aspects in synastry and I noticed we have vertex trine vertex.
i'm also aware his sun conjuncts my descendant which may be why it feels like he's a soulmate. I also am a believer in reincarnation and past lives and whatnot, I definitely feel like I knew him in a past life.

synastry: http://imgur.com/a/VWNaB4U http://imgur.com/ZBb4xcY http://imgur.com/6Ty6uUr

composite: http://imgur.com/EXUZNNU

I'm planet A he's planet B btw

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Randall
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posted March 03, 2023 03:59 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Randall     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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StoneMoon
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posted March 04, 2023 02:04 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for StoneMoon     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I think what you are attributing to vertex synastry is Pluto square Moon.

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mee_chryssa
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posted March 04, 2023 02:42 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for mee_chryssa     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
This is a guy who is too independent to be in a relationship. And I feel like you are not like that, especially with the Sun in the 7th.

Please, don't date someone again that resulted in you going to therapy. That's a hugeeee red-flag. The biggest of them all.

I don't mean that it's bad to go to therapy, but it's really bad if it's as a result of dating someone.

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implosions
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posted March 04, 2023 11:27 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for implosions     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hm. The one aspect that really jumped at me was in the composite; Neptune square Jupiter. Normally I wouldn't say this is a big issue, but because Neptune is in the 8th and it's a square to the 11th ... The vibe I'm getting is this is almost a bit delusional in terms of where the boundaries lie. Not in a derogatory sense, but in the 'we cannot see through this fog until-' sort of situation.

Neptune in the 8th can be wonderful, but it often means there is something not seen. Square to Jupiter means that this COULD be a great experience to force the breaking of that fog, seeing clearly that it's not the 8th energy in this relationship, but 11th - friendship on a detached but very human level. Or the potential for it. I try not to astrologize in doom-terminology.

The Sun in the 4th could feel very familiar, but it is lonely in the 4th house alone. The somewhat sad image I see is the potential for one partner to simply be at home alone. All the time. The energy from the composite now that I've lingered does feel very 'longing/lonely'.

That said, if this were to BE a true friendship, without the blurred intimacy boundaries, it could be very fruitful. Venus in the 5th shows potential for creative fun together, but unless it's on a childlike bond, things can get very ... well. Hard to say exactly what ever happens with Neptune.

As said above, if one person is extremely independent and not ready to settle into a partnership, absolutely do NOT engage in that way without the full preparation that this connection will fundamentally change aspects of how you know yourself. How you view and interact with relationships. Saturn is sitting in the same house as Jupiter, which is a lovely way of balancing out the extreme expansion AND the extreme pressures that can come up in friendships.

This chart narrowed to one sentence: Navigate the Entire Ocean, Storms and All, to find who YOU are. (Not Them).

-R

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444libra
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posted March 04, 2023 11:43 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for 444libra     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by StoneMoon:
I think what you are attributing to vertex synastry is Pluto square Moon.

Ooo yeah I read this could be a difficult aspect to have in synastry. I also have this aspect natally.

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444libra
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posted March 04, 2023 11:49 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for 444libra     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by mee_chryssa:
This is a guy who is too independent to be in a relationship. And I feel like you are not like that, especially with the Sun in the 7th.

Please, don't date someone again that resulted in you going to therapy. That's a hugeeee red-flag. The biggest of them all.

I don't mean that it's bad to go to therapy, but it's really bad if it's as a result of dating someone.


He definitely is way too independent lol, he would always mention to me that before we dated he went years single after his last relationship ended in high school. (he's turning 25 this year) and would always say stuff like how he didn't want to date until he was where he wanted to be in life (career, financially, etc) but he decided to give it a shot with me lol.
I don't think I'm as independent as he is for sure, he'd bother me after we broke up about how he thinks I'd move on before him because I'm a 'lover girl' and 'love love'.

I agree with you as well on the therapy part. I think that relationship just highlighted a lot of problems I personally have(trust issues and whatnot) and that's why I started seeing a therapist, but also I was extremely heartbroken after he broke up with me.

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444libra
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posted March 05, 2023 12:07 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for 444libra     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by implosions:
Hm. The one aspect that really jumped at me was in the composite; Neptune square Jupiter. Normally I wouldn't say this is a big issue, but because Neptune is in the 8th and it's a square to the 11th ... The vibe I'm getting is this is almost a bit delusional in terms of where the boundaries lie. Not in a derogatory sense, but in the 'we cannot see through this fog until-' sort of situation.

Neptune in the 8th can be wonderful, but it often means there is something not seen. Square to Jupiter means that this COULD be a great experience to force the breaking of that fog, seeing clearly that it's not the 8th energy in this relationship, but 11th - friendship on a detached but very human level. Or the potential for it. I try not to astrologize in doom-terminology.

The Sun in the 4th could feel very familiar, but it is lonely in the 4th house alone. The somewhat sad image I see is the potential for one partner to simply be at home alone. All the time. The energy from the composite now that I've lingered does feel very 'longing/lonely'.

That said, if this were to BE a true friendship, without the blurred intimacy boundaries, it could be very fruitful. Venus in the 5th shows potential for creative fun together, but unless it's on a childlike bond, things can get very ... well. Hard to say exactly what ever happens with Neptune.

As said above, if one person is extremely independent and not ready to settle into a partnership, absolutely do NOT engage in that way without the full preparation that this connection will fundamentally change aspects of how you know yourself. How you view and interact with relationships. Saturn is sitting in the same house as Jupiter, which is a lovely way of balancing out the extreme expansion AND the extreme pressures that can come up in friendships.

This chart narrowed to one sentence: Navigate the Entire Ocean, Storms and All, to find who YOU are. (Not Them).

-R


Looking back on our relationship now, it definitely lacked boundaries. and was a bit delusional we would constantly say we could get through certain things if we just worked on these things and agree but never work on those problems, and just constantly kept saying that because we didn't want to break up.
I personally just didn't even know how to fix those problems I had with trusting him until the very end of our relationship but also because he also had a lying problem when it came to small things because he didn't want to hurt my feelings or just wanted to 'keep the peace' and argue.

During the good times in our relationship he did make me feel at home, but during the bad times I felt extremely lonely. I would tell him this as well, and he didn't even know how to reassure me because he just wasn't able to understand my feelings. I always felt like I wanted more, simply because he was never the super emotional/affectionate type.

I think the friendship part is completely out the window, as I haven't spoken to him since the day we argued but he constantly updates the playlist he made for me.
It's a very weird relationship lol I think we're just both not ready to actually be friends, because we wouldn't wanna see the other move on.

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implosions
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posted March 05, 2023 12:23 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for implosions     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by 444libra:
I think the friendship part is completely out the window, as I haven't spoken to him since the day we argued but he constantly updates the playlist he made for me.
It's a very weird relationship lol I think we're just both not ready to actually be friends, because we wouldn't wanna see the other move on.

That makes sense; even a none friendship can do a lot to teach us about what we value in friendships. That's very 11th house energy; the immediate abundance of connection (Jupiter) that progresses into the natural conclusion or the type of boundaries we truly require between people who may or may not match us (Saturn).

That square can be gnarly to unstick yourself from, but it seems some things have worked themselves out. I hope you find abundance of respect and love for yourself and the type of connections that value YOU, not just what you find valuable. <3

-R

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mee_chryssa
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posted March 05, 2023 04:47 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for mee_chryssa     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by 444libra:
I agree with you as well on the therapy part. I think that relationship just highlighted a lot of problems I personally have(trust issues and whatnot) and that's why I started seeing a therapist, but also I was extremely heartbroken after he broke up with me.

Just take care

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