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Topic: A different kind of "friendship" - breaking limits
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LF DX Knowflake Posts: 691 From: Paraguay Registered: Sep 2014
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posted May 30, 2023 10:48 AM
While the connection with the pisces woman is in a limbo, which I don't know if ever it's going to change at this point, this connection took off...I've met this woman in January 2022 while I was making a food sale, I couldn't help but to be kinda amazed that a very beautiful woman took notice of me, and we exchanged numbers. After a while, she told me that she's in a long term relationship with a woman 20 years older, unexpected as it was, I decided to distance myself from her, but somehow she was the first woman in quite a while to find a way to get close to me in a way that wasn't annoying, poking at social media every once in a while, and being in the same social gatherings kinda made me open to a friendship with her. Even if she sometimes was kinda flirty, I couldn't help but to feel her attraction towards me, but I ignored that because of her relationship - I never would be with anyone while being in a relationship., And I kept her bay for quite a while. As time went by, she became my friend and confidant on many things, including my difficulties with women, with my family, but most importantly, the connection with the pisces woman that put me off the rails, and I ended up showing my music, poems, etc. She was, and is very helpful also with spiritual things, and because of this libra woman's recomendation I started to do kundalini yoga, as a way to reconnect with myself and to help me to be more calmed with the pisces woman. I felt a level of trust I don't usually have with women, I felt very comfortable being my sometimes intense and brooding me, she was very much empathetic with me. Being a psychologist that's into spirituality and the arts also helps a lot. She told me not long ago that her partner would be on a long journey for 6 months and that they would be on a break basically,and Just this last saturday, we met again at one of the cultural centers of my city and finally, I reciprocated her, and we ended up having sex at my place. She's the first friend, and the first woman that has entered my bedroom ever, because of my conservative family and because I never quite connected quite deep enough with anyone to invite to my place. And after 12 hours later she texted me she wanted more sex, and we ended up going in a motel, straight to the point, no holds barred. She told me to keep it a secret though, for "respect" to her partner, and to avoid unnecessary gossip. Even though she had permission to date other people, she decided to keep our affair as hidden as possible for the moment. It feels kinda different to have sex with someone that you have a friendship, a connection rather than having it with someone you just met for the first time(it's what usually happens to me), and I'm feeling strange, like I'm way out of my comfort zone, and I'm not sure how to deal with this, I know that she's been very helpful and kind to me in many ways, and with this affair I believe I'm going to learn many things about love and sex, things that will help me, when the time comes, to finally be more ready to open my heart, or that's what I think I guess. And here are the charts
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Randall Webmaster Posts: 176663 From: I hold a Juris Doctorate (J.D.) and a Legum Magister (LL.M.)! Registered: Apr 2009
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posted May 31, 2023 09:53 AM
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LF DX Knowflake Posts: 691 From: Paraguay Registered: Sep 2014
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posted June 02, 2023 06:16 PM
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LF DX Knowflake Posts: 691 From: Paraguay Registered: Sep 2014
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posted June 06, 2023 12:17 PM
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LF DX Knowflake Posts: 691 From: Paraguay Registered: Sep 2014
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posted June 08, 2023 09:17 PM
This experience feel quite rare, challenging, outrageous but exciting. I know for both we have our hearts taken (hers for real, mine in a platonic but intense way), but can't deny the first taste of reciprocal affection, or maybe just an overpowered lust. The sexting, the moments, the thrill of having someone desiring you, and you the same. The intimacy, very different that I've experienced. It's like I'm finally experiencing things that I should have done it in my twenties, only now after a couple of years of therapy, an intense love that opened up for me everything again, I can little by little gain more confidence when it comes to my desires, my need to love and to be a part of someone's life. I have a great teacher to learn a lot right now.This may be a temporary adventure, but I hope our friendship remains after this, she has been quite important in my life in so many ways. A bump for someone to see our charts, it's quite interesting what it has. IP: Logged |
PlutoWasHere Knowflake Posts: 1019 From: The Nether World Registered: Mar 2021
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posted June 09, 2023 01:53 AM
Hi LFDX, this seems like an intense connection, her Venus conjunct your Pluto/Mars/Sun conjunction in Scorpio. Your Libra Venus is also trining her Aquarius Mars. Jupiter, the ruler of your Rising, is conjunct her Descendant. Lots of attraction and easy interaction. Your Scorpio Sun trines her Pisces Moon and her Libra Sun trines her Aquarius Moon, both of you have a Pisces Rising. I can understand why you would feel so comfortable around her. As always, there are red flags as well. I’m a bit concerned about her Neptune squaring your Venus. There’s a risk that you’ll be disappointed. She might have not be telling everything or maybe it’s just really easy for you to put this person on a pedestal. In your composite, Neptune is conjunct Juno and Saturn, but opposite Chiron. Even if this relationship is causing you pain, it might be very difficult to let go. With composite north node in the 12th house, this will likely remain a secret relationship. IP: Logged |
LF DX Knowflake Posts: 691 From: Paraguay Registered: Sep 2014
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posted June 09, 2023 11:44 AM
But aren't the chiron aspects in composite a bit too far for them to cause any effects?But yeah, the Venus sq. Neptune and the 12th house NN and moon composite are quite difficult. And the fact that most of the times she has a very unpredictable behavior, cancelling dates at the last second, leaving me very confused. Also, we're both in love to other people, she's still attached to her partner, and I'm very much in love still to a Pisces woman (even more intense than this experience, but platonic and otherworldly). I'm very much aware that this is a secret affair, I just feel like I'm finally going to learn things that will help me overcome many fears and insecurities when it comes to women, I'm going to go with the flow and make the best out of this. And the sex of course, the most intense of my life so far. IP: Logged |
LF DX Knowflake Posts: 691 From: Paraguay Registered: Sep 2014
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posted June 10, 2023 10:39 AM
Yesterday I have my proper "first date" with her. An afternoon of the most intense and cathartic sex ever, for the first time I've truly felt connected deeply with a woman though sex, we did it until the sunset, and then we spend a few more hours walking in the city, having a brunch and we talked about a lot of stuff.We told each other our feelings, but she wants an open thing, no strings attached, And I agreed. This experience is amazing, maybe it won't be a couple thing, but I'm considering this as a rehearsal for the future. But I can't deny the mutual feelings, the intensity of the connection, on how vulnerable she felt yesterday, and the confort and excitement I have with her. This is a first for me, and for the moment I want to just enjoy it and go with the flow IP: Logged |
PlutoWasHere Knowflake Posts: 1019 From: The Nether World Registered: Mar 2021
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posted June 10, 2023 01:47 PM
Transit Uranus is currently opposite your Sun, Mars and Pluto conjunct her Venus. This might add to the “electric” quality of your relationship. Uranus is unpredictable though. But from your posts I’ve already noticed that you just want to enjoy the connection for as long as it lasts.IP: Logged |
LF DX Knowflake Posts: 691 From: Paraguay Registered: Sep 2014
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posted June 27, 2023 11:56 AM
It's still ongoing, we took a bit of a break for a couple of weeks because the intensity was overpowering, and it left her a bit emotionally weakened. Yesterday she in a subtle way she became very affectionate towards me in front of her friends, our yoga group, I sensed her love for me in a different way, it surprised me. We have planned a few activities in the future to enrich ourselves like making songs, learning to paint, etc.I consider her my soulmate, but she won't be my lifetime partner because of her being non-monogamous, still I can't deny her part in my life, the healing she does for me in a very compassionate way, and the only reason why I'm in this open relationship is because in a very deep way, I trust her. I can trust her to guide me to learn as much as I can when it comes to reciprocal connections, and I know that I have a friend for a lifetime. I'm in an exciting adventure. I'd love to see other people on this, it has quite a lot of stuff IP: Logged |
LF DX Knowflake Posts: 691 From: Paraguay Registered: Sep 2014
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posted July 04, 2023 11:36 AM
I don't know if having sex on a supermoon was a good idea, but this felt so overwhelming, overpowered, I felt a nakedness that I haven't had in probably ever.And also we had shared a lot in these past few days, Having dinner with her friends and in her place, felt so great to be a part of her life and to know a bit more of her, how she has built her life in an orderly way, to keep her hyperactivity on check with many activities as possible. Probably the only thing that sucks is that she put the hard boundaries as I'm undeniably falling in love, she's still with her partner even if they're on a break, she has sex with other men as well, and she recommended me to have experiences with other women as to not be focused on her only. In many ways she's the kind of woman that I'd built a life with, she has many things that I love in a woman, beauty, intelligence, sensitivity, someone I can learn, to be challenged, to have fun, to make love intensely. She does love me though, and she also doesn't deny that our connection is deep and special, it just isn't made for a monogamous relationship. I'll still have many more good times with her as I'm learning many things with her, and I know we have a friendship that will last, I just need to know how to handle the emotions I'm developing, it's not hard to fall in love with someone that can be a friend, a lover, who has empathy on you, and that can challenge you to be more adventurous in life in general. IP: Logged |
LF DX Knowflake Posts: 691 From: Paraguay Registered: Sep 2014
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posted August 13, 2023 11:37 AM
The relationship is still going, sometimes a bit of distance from her, but yesterday we had almost a complete day together, sex, a date in a art gallery and a night in a cultural center. But for her it's still a fwb situation, there's love, but a hard limit is still thereI can sense she's very much conflicted about many things in her life, but I don't want to intrude in her private world, but our relationship is very much complex but rewarding, mostly to me, but for her there's the conflict with her parner who's out for a few months, I'm kinda wondering what's the deal with being in a monogamous relationship with a person 20 years older but still ******* around with other people, she has a duality that I can't quite figure it out yet, to be free or to be accompanied, there's a lot this woman hides. IP: Logged |
Eternal Energy Knowflake Posts: 1783 From: Registered: May 2020
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posted August 13, 2023 04:22 PM
Just be careful. Your health is the most important thing in life. Don't risk it.IP: Logged |
LF DX Knowflake Posts: 691 From: Paraguay Registered: Sep 2014
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posted August 15, 2023 11:20 AM
My overall health is in fact pretty good, Meditation and Yoga have quite help me a lot, also being very physically active, and slowly making money with music in a third world country is quite a feat. My life is in a very good place.To talk about synastry, our 12th house moon composite really makes it important to have time for each other alone, I feel much more comfortable with her when we're on our own, I'm still kinda awkward in public, though she's a bit more comfortable being affectionate in public, also the venus-sun/mars/pluto conjunction really puts in perspective that the relationship deepens and gets more intimate after we have sex. Almost an entire day with her and not a single boring moment. For the life I have before, She has made a huge impact on me. What was very difficult when it comes with women, she made it very easy, and pleasant, I never felt as good with anyone as I'm now with her, I can say it's very therapeutic for my soul growth, And now seeing her showing me her own personal writings has made me very happy and proud on how I can inspire someone to emotionally express with art, on how I can make someone happy, loved, cared. It's still very nervebreaking that how two people can have this kind of amazing all-around chemistry and not be a couple, but she's till tied and loyal to her partner of 13 years, it sucks, but it is what it is, I won't push it further than what it is, because at the end of the day, she's still sees it as an extension of our friendship, something that trascends the limits of human relationships. IP: Logged |
Randall Webmaster Posts: 176663 From: I hold a Juris Doctorate (J.D.) and a Legum Magister (LL.M.)! Registered: Apr 2009
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posted August 30, 2023 02:48 PM
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LF DX Knowflake Posts: 691 From: Paraguay Registered: Sep 2014
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posted September 02, 2023 11:29 AM
Yup, it kinda ended the story, for now at least. As she stopped to respond to my messages, I simply just fall back and let things go on their way, it hurts as we're getting closer on an intimate level, things just stopped. I try to do as many things as possible to keep me busy, but I miss her dearly. She became a very important person in my life, it's hard to not hang around with her and have a good time, but for now, it's for the best to have no contact for a while. We'll have a conversation soon, and see where this is going.As her partner is coming soon, she also must deal with all she has in her life, all these affairs and adventures, the open relationship thing, she was starting to feel the longing, but also the difficulty to deal with many people. And I don't know if I'm going to have something so good like this, having this level of comfort with a woman as I had with her, I don't want to put myself out there yet, it stinks that she just ghosted me, but alas, she has too much **** going on, and I can't blame her. This was my first relationship, my first true foray into love, and I'm proud of myself of handling something very difficult with such grace, kindness and love. I did my best, It was good, I don't regret it. The bond will remain that's for sure, but for now it's an hiatus. Let's see what happens in the upcoming weeks. IP: Logged | |