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Topic: Do you see any abuse in this composite/synastry?
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moonlightavenue Knowflake Posts: 56 From: All over the place Registered: Apr 2020
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posted July 27, 2023 06:03 PM
Hi everyone, I am very grateful that this forum exists. I would really appreciate if anybody could take a look at the synastry and composite charts of my boyfriend and me, because I've seen some structural problems such as feeling that he doesn't listen to me, or that he makes the same cruel comments that my mother would always say to me for no reason, but that they hurt deeply. I feel ashamed of saying all this. Anyway, if anyone could help me identify what's going on in the chart that may be an "explanation" of why we trigger so much in the other, I will be thankful. Composite: http://ibb.co/gJrjj4x Synastry: http://ibb.co/89djRN3 IP: Logged |
mee_chryssa Knowflake Posts: 1112 From: Romania Registered: Jun 2020
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posted July 27, 2023 07:48 PM
Who is who in the synastry?IP: Logged |
moonlightavenue Knowflake Posts: 56 From: All over the place Registered: Apr 2020
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posted July 28, 2023 12:07 AM
quote: Originally posted by mee_chryssa: Who is who in the synastry?
I'm the Pisces Ascendant (inner circle) IP: Logged |
mee_chryssa Knowflake Posts: 1112 From: Romania Registered: Jun 2020
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posted July 28, 2023 04:25 AM
I don't see a specific aspect or overlay in synastry to be the cause for this.In natals, you both have Mars conjunct the DC. So this means that you both like having dynamic relationships, passionate, etc.... the side effect is the abuse that can come with it, jealousy, the control, etc... His Moon is square to your Sun and that's what makes him deeply left out, he might feel that you don't hear him, that you don't get him. Being in Aries and ruler of the ASC, is very unfocused in this sign. And you have your Moon conjunct the North Node. I think you both have some difficulties getting along as single people and because you both have 7th house Mars, being understood and having control in relationships is what makes this hard to settle and have normal peace or normal dissagrements. Or on the contrary, you both attract people that are of a very passionate nature, but they need to control you. IP: Logged |
PlutoWasHere Knowflake Posts: 1022 From: The Nether World Registered: Mar 2021
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posted July 28, 2023 06:10 AM
Your Virgo Mars square his Sagittarius Pluto is a red flag. This doesn’t mean that it will become an abusive relationship but it’s a pretty notorious aspect in synastry. He has an Aries Moon, he’ll probably give a pretty fiery emotional response when he feels stressed. The ruler of his Moon, Capricorn Mars, is conjunct Neptune and Mercury. At his best, he’s compassionate and imaginative. At his worst, there’s verbal abuse and paranoia. And with your Mars square his Pluto, you might bring out his worst. There are lovely synastry aspects as well, like his Aquarius Venus square your Scorpio Moon. A square can be uncomfortable but it’s still his Venus touching your Moon and that’s really nice. However, I wouldn’t base my assessment of any relationship on astrology. In the end, it’s up to you if his behavior is something that crosses your boundaries or that it’s something you can still live with. Only you can decide that. If there were issues with your mother and you still need to deal with them, maybe there’s someone you can talk to? A Scorpio Moon is fixed water, they can have a tendency to hold onto emotions. It will help if you find a way to “purge” and let go. IP: Logged |
kani Knowflake Posts: 1232 From: Registered: Oct 2018
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posted July 28, 2023 09:15 AM
quote: Originally posted by PlutoWasHere: Your Virgo Mars square his Sagittarius Pluto is a red flag. This doesn’t mean that it will become an abusive relationship but it’s a pretty notorious aspect in synastry.
I concur. I ended my 8 year relationship 3 weeks ago because he suddenly got violent with me. I called the police immediately. We have this aspect in the synastry.
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PlutoWasHere Knowflake Posts: 1022 From: The Nether World Registered: Mar 2021
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posted July 29, 2023 03:40 PM
quote: Originally posted by kani: I concur. I ended my 8 year relationship 3 weeks ago because he suddenly got violent with me. I called the police immediately. We have this aspect in the synastry.
kani, I’m so sorry that happened. That must have been a very unsettling experience. I hope you’re doing better now. My father had Scorpio Mars square Leo Pluto in his natal and my mother’s Pluto made it an even tighter square. There were explosive fights and sometimes it even got physical. It’s the one aspect in synastry, I’m extremely cautious of. IP: Logged |
Hikaru29 Knowflake Posts: 3838 From: Asia Registered: Nov 2018
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posted July 30, 2023 12:55 AM
quote: Originally posted by PlutoWasHere: Your Virgo Mars square his Sagittarius Pluto is a red flag. This doesn’t mean that it will become an abusive relationship but it’s a pretty notorious aspect in synastry.
Actually it depends on the natals. I’ve the square n quincunx with my guy in cardinal n mutable signs. We never got anywhere close to being physically abusive with each other. We both have watery Mars square Moon in natal and his Mars is also square Pluto. We tend to get offended easily, especially sensitive to each others’ responses, but we also tend to blow over quite easily. Two of my aunts in long term marriages also have the square with their husbands (in mutable signs). One of them also has the conjunction so it’s a DW. No sign of abuse. I feel that when you see this aspect in Synastry it’s good to study the natal. I think it will be dangerous if it’s in fixed signs because fixed signs tend to be stubborn. IP: Logged |
kani Knowflake Posts: 1232 From: Registered: Oct 2018
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posted July 30, 2023 04:29 AM
quote: Originally posted by PlutoWasHere: kani, I’m so sorry that happened. That must have been a very unsettling experience. I hope you’re doing better now.My father had Scorpio Mars square Leo Pluto in his natal and my mother’s Pluto made it an even tighter square. There were explosive fights and sometimes it even got physical. It’s the one aspect in synastry, I’m extremely cautious of.
Thank you Pluto. Much appreciated. We did have lovely aspects between us like sun con moon, moon con venus etc. but this one aspect really led to repeated heavy fights. I would have never thought that he'd get violent with me though. IP: Logged |
kani Knowflake Posts: 1232 From: Registered: Oct 2018
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posted July 30, 2023 04:32 AM
quote: Originally posted by Hikaru29: Actually it depends on the natals. I’ve the square n quincunx with my guy in cardinal n mutable signs. We never got anywhere close to being physically abusive with each other. We both have watery Mars square Moon in natal and his Mars is also square Pluto. We tend to get offended easily, especially sensitive to each others’ responses, but we also tend to blow over quite easily. Two of my aunts in long term marriages also have the square with their husbands (in mutable signs). One of them also has the conjunction so it’s a DW. No sign of abuse. I feel that when you see this aspect in Synastry it’s good to study the natal. I think it will be dangerous if it’s in fixed signs because fixed signs tend to be stubborn.
We also have the square in cardinal signs. The issue with us was his stubborn personality (Taurus sun and cap ascendant with an Aries mercury) and me generally not taking **** and standing my ground. His anger I guess grew over time in such a way that it unloaded completely inappropriately against me.
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Randall Webmaster Posts: 176817 From: I hold a Juris Doctorate (J.D.) and a Legum Magister (LL.M.)! Registered: Apr 2009
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posted August 24, 2023 07:26 PM
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StoneMoon Knowflake Posts: 1222 From: Registered: Apr 2018
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posted August 25, 2023 07:14 AM
I would add there is a semi square in composite between Saturn and the Moon, so this could be contributing the feeling of not connecting emotionally. Scorpio Moon needs that security and connection, and it's possible between your Moon and your Virgo Mars, you are highly aware and alert regarding hurtful comments. It's a very sensitive placement, both of those actually. Virgo Mars can be perfectionistic, and take things to heart that another may not be as sensitive to. Scorpio Moon doesn't trust and can sometimes be all too aware/suspicious of people's true intentions. And as the above posters' said, he has an Aries Moon. He's given to spouting off, letting off steam, etc... That's some heavy Cap energy between you two, and he has an Aqua Venus... all of this to say that detachment could be felt from time to time. It doesn't mean the feelings aren't there, but that you may perceive these things. And I can attest to the mutability of the Mars square Pluto (virgo/sag) being easier to handle, because I am Virgo Mars and both my daughters square this with their Sag Pluto. It's not abuse, but as you can imagine between mother and daughter it is a back and forth about power or control. Their Plutos fall into my 1st house, so it was about transforming my identity and having to relinquish some of the needs of my 10th house Mars. Now that they are grown, my 10th Mars is back to what it wants to do- career. So maybe this can ease your worries a bit! IP: Logged |
Randall Webmaster Posts: 176817 From: I hold a Juris Doctorate (J.D.) and a Legum Magister (LL.M.)! Registered: Apr 2009
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posted September 06, 2023 01:42 PM
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