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hypatia238
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posted October 22, 2023 01:19 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for hypatia238     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Is there hope?
We met Sunday May 29th 2022
We moved in together this summer officially September 1st.
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Randall
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posted October 24, 2023 10:51 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Randall     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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StoneMoon
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posted October 24, 2023 09:43 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for StoneMoon     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
It feels like it's about transformation and change, but with 8th house activation combined with Chiron square the mars and Venus, an d really a t square formation at that... this is not an easy one. I think you two both offer each other an opportunity to grow in significant ways.

I don't usually rely on the Davison charts, but I find it interesting that Moon is sandwiched between Saturn and Pluto. Moon Pluto is so intense (and you have the opposition in the composite) and it's very hard to ignore. But Moon Saturn is heavy and it often leaves one partner feeling emotionally out in the cold.

The attraction and sexual ties bring you together (7th house Venus mars), and with Sun and Mercury in the 8th you have no choice but to dig deep and face some demons. Aries Moon feels like you are both here to heal and grow in your individual needs. That's not to say that a composite Aries moon can't represent more, this is simply the repeating message I get in this chart. Add to that the opposition from Pluto and I think this is a sexually charged relationship. You need the action to release thoughts and emotions.

Pluto is in the 9th, so I feel like your greatest power is to transform beliefs. I bet by now you can see how this relationship has already changed certain core beliefs. Aries moon in 3rd house would point to a connection of emotions through communication... and with Chiron and NN in the 4th, this is your healing. You needed to come together in a deep way to house these opportunities.

Saturn square the Venus Mars in composite is hard, and it can be binding. But it's a heavy energy and likely you will both feel impacted by this, both feeling held back at times, or immobilized.

I know you asked about hope for the relationship, but this relationship is likely giving you everything you need at this moment. It may not be the ideal you asked for, but I feel like it's the gift you (both) needed. I am sorry if you are having challenging times right now. I have been on the forum for a long time and from your posts, you are a person of growth and evolution and transformation. That's not an easy road sometimes.

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hypatia238
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posted October 27, 2023 08:47 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for hypatia238     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Thank you Stonemoon, truly appreciate the reading.

We have Saturn sextile Venus conjunct Mars, not the square but tr saturn has been featured very strongly from the start of our relationship.

When we met transit Saturn was conjuncting composite AC and activating all our angles while it was squaring his MOON on composite IC and opposing my VENUS and MARS on composite DC.

Now transit Saturn is opposing our Venus conjunct Mars in the 7th and is the release point of that t-square involving chiron and later on next year tr saturn will oppose his dc ruler VENUS and my DC ruler Mercury so SATURN is constantly there since we met...

I do like your interpretation of the moon in ARIES in our composite. I truly hope this relationship ends up helping him get back on track with his finances and beat his issues with addiction. Composite MOON falls right on his Ascendant and his natal Moon falls right on our composite IC.

We currently live together but sleep in separate spaces so fitting of composite MOON in ARIES on his AC I suppose and I have IC in aries natally.

The sexual intimacy has always been great, I do like that dimension of our relationship even though is not necessarily the main focus but every time we are intimate I love it.

Communication is challenging though that is is the hard piece but I think our issues truly stem from his addiction and then that plays into our communication dynamics is what I am realizing more and more.

I hope he recovers, if that is the one thing that comes out of us coming together that would be great even though I wanted so much more than that but at this point I recognize just that would be amazing.

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posted October 27, 2023 02:38 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Librapurr     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Tod wasn’t here for very long time. I add my thoughts.
He has that hard stellium in his 7th and his Sun on the cusp with Scorpio, AC is Aries so he might be leaning toward having not equal relationships despite his DC in Libra, with one person having more control, power. Also, tr. Pluto has been squaring his heavy 7th placement so he might be extra difficult to make a deal with nowadays.

Your personal placements in each other 5th makes it romantic. Similar aspects are helpful.
In composite, Mars cj Venus afflicted by Jupiter Uranus might require too much space for relationship to thrive, but first are being exact and Saturn exact sextile should be helpful. Sun Mercury is a classical aspect to make it official.

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hypatia238
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posted November 01, 2023 01:20 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for hypatia238     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Librapurr:
Tod wasn’t here for very long time. I add my thoughts.
He has that hard stellium in his 7th and his Sun on the cusp with Scorpio, AC is Aries so he might be leaning toward having not equal relationships despite his DC in Libra, with one person having more control, power. Also, tr. Pluto has been squaring his heavy 7th placement so he might be extra difficult to make a deal with nowadays.

Your personal placements in each other 5th makes it romantic. Similar aspects are helpful.
In composite, Mars cj Venus afflicted by Jupiter Uranus might require too much space for relationship to thrive, but first are being exact and Saturn exact sextile should be helpful. Sun Mercury is a classical aspect to make it official.


Thanks librapurr, I like your input overall and see what you mean.

Weirdly VENUS in the 7th square Jupiter and chiron would be considered a cinderalla aspect but since URANUS is also conjuncting JUPITER it has been quite the ride our relationship so far with ups and downs yet we never leave each other, there is a weird unbreakable bond too and we just don't walk away from each other even if we take breaks (uranus) sometimes so is a cinderalla t-square with a twist you can say, perhaps people may keep thinking that these two are going to break up yet we keep surprising everyone and not breaking up.

Pluto conjunct Moon and Pluto opposite Moon is a more possessive aspect but venus square jupiter conjunct uranus needs the relationship to feel unrestricting to some extent so perhaps a monogomish type of arrangement is what this will evolve into even if is more in theory than in practice how that plays out bc is knowing we can be monogomish if we want that makes it feel not restricting.

In our trip to Mexico he was talking about how he would like to see me more fluid sexually and the example he gave is us being out at a club and briefly swinging with a couple but just making out and not having sex but then coming home together. Like we are committed to each other, neither of us have been with other people since February this year and we are now living together but he has told me that he is not jealous and he would not care if I had fun with another guy or girl as long as is just sex and it does not mean anything, he said it would only bother him if I love them and develop feelings. He has natally VENUS ruling his 7th conjunting Mars and squaring his Jupiter conjunct Uranus and I think this makes him be very open minded and fluid sexually.

I feel the same, I don't want him to fu*k around but I wouldn't break up with him over a casual hook up but I made it clear that if he was to have a person he is having an affair with meaning someone he was seeing regularly that this is my boundary and I would want him to just be with that person and leave me alone and he said he doesn't do that. I don't care about casual hook ups when it comes down to it as in I can be in a relationship with him and be like you have a free pass once a year or something like that and not make a big thing of it. Ultimately he is not the cheating type and he is a serial monogamist so we are on the same page.

I think the jupiter conjunct uranus has led to a bit of a roller coaster at least during the first year of our relationship but our relationship has shifted this month and is solidifying, the trip to mexico really brought us closer together and now the jupiter conjunct uranus is shifting more into wanting to experiment sexually in a way we both agree with and feel comfortable exploring together but this may just stay in theoretical realm, I think is just fun to discuss this possibility etc. Weirdly channeling that energy sexually through shared experiences will probably help the relationship be more stable but he has made it clear that I am his person, he makes me feel confident about that and how I would be the priority always and that is perhaps were the Cinderella aspect kicks in but also how Uranus is giving it a twist so it has a touch of unconventional with some desire to integrate sexual fluidity in the relationship.

We both don't mind being watched when we are having sex like its exciting to have sex in the hot tub in my apartment complex which I feel is fitting of our venus conjunct mars in the 7th square jupiter conjunct uranus in the 10th.

There are a lot of relationship aspects with us so I feel this relationship may surprisingly last...

The composite vertex in the 7th conjuncts his DC ruler and my DC ruler which is interesting, then composite venus conjunct mars in the 7th is also sextile saturn even though is squaring jupiter conjunct uranus adding stability and staying power. Then the moon conjunct pluto and moon opposite pluto is very emotionally binding causing two people to get very attached and feel at home with each other even though it can lead to some possessiveness but in our case since jupiter conjunct uranus squares venus that possessiveness is balanced out with the desire to not want to suffocate our partner and wanting us to feel free together but still be a couple.

My chart ruler is jupiter conjunct uranus but I have venus conjunct mars in the 8th sentagon jupiter conjunct uranus and his chart ruler is mars conjunct venus and this squares his jupiter conjunct uranus but he also has sun and pluto on his DC so there is this theme in our personal charts of being freedom loving but also been drawn to intense all consuming relationships and that in turn reflects in our composite and davison this interesting contrast.

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