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JosieC4
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posted December 04, 2023 11:31 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for JosieC4     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Can someone look at my synastry and maybe composite chart? He and I have been friends for over a decade but never looked at each other as anything more until one night we just did. Been inseparable since. The intensity is like nothing I've ever experienced but it's led me to turning my entire life upside down. Please, any insight would be appreciated.

https://tinyurl.com/bddvapp5

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sashavittoria
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posted December 05, 2023 01:14 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for sashavittoria     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Wow, yes no wonder it's intense! This is a significant connection, if the times are accurate.

The main reason i say that is due to the DW action on the angles, including:

A’s Jupiter conjunct B’s IC
B’s Jupiter conjunct A’s MC - all the more significant because Jupiter is both A's chart ruler and the ruler of A's 8th house.
A’s Saturn conjunct B’s AC
B’s Saturn conjunct A’s DC

B’s nodal axis is squared by A’s MC/IC, which thereby activating B’s natal Jupiter squaring their nodes. As I've written elsewhere: "As we all know, natal squares to the nodal axis indicate a “skipped step”: something one refuses to face until it is brought to their attention over and over again, until they learn to face it."

With A’s sun squaring not only B’s Cancer moon but their Vertex as well, plus the squares to B's nodes I mentioned above, this is an especially significant relationship for B, who will hopefully transform into greater spiritual consciousness through the association with A.

You’ve got mutual Vertex-Mercury action too, which is unusual: A’s Mercury square B’s vertex axis and B’s Mercury conjunct A’s Vertex. So A's spiritual awareness, too, is triggered by this union.

quote:

"Vertex connections and Nodal connections via synastry play out very differently in the scheme of our developing consciousness... It is the Moon [the nodes] that represents not only our past, but our anchored physicality–our selves as represented in matter. The Moon represents the matter of our physical body and all the planes that influence and affect that body: physical, emotional, mental, spiritual. The Moon carries the egoic egg that retains our energetic aura. The Moon is our collected history, our definition of ourselves by whatever our encounters with life (and past lives) have brought to our identity. It is the result of our gathered experience.... The Vertex represents something very different. It is the ultimate individuality, the unique creative Self without the reference points of the past. Imagine a pure you, a unique spark of the cosmos, that is not defined by interacting with material existence. The Earth represents our perspective, our pure point of view, our idea of ourselves as an individual element in the greater divinity. An identity without the need for ego defenses. An identity whose only purpose is to take part in that greater divinity in whatever way it can... Vertex contacts, no matter what end of the axis they hit, assist the process of that divinity directly…. The point of all Vertex contacts is to reveal ourselves from a perspective that is higher and deeper than ordinary conscious awareness. In a way, the Vertex is beyond the Nodes, which are all about the development of consciousness. The Vertex unveils the “Watcher,” in us. The one who knows. The one who is beyond the conscious Self." Source

Jupiter being the ruler of A’s 8th house, its conjunction to B’s IC is a good sign. However, it’s caught in a grand cross with B’s Chiron and Uranus, opposite B’s Mars/Venus. This is both powerful and triggering.

The main challenge is A’s Aries moon square B’s Cancer moon and opposite Mercuries - especially as Mercury rules A's 5th house and B's 7th house.

Positively, you have a yin-yang opposition with A’s Aries moon opposite B’s Libra sun.

I’m a Taurus with Aries moon too and we can be a little self-centered and self-driven for Libra/Cancer folks, while to us they can be too people-pleasing.

Quick notes on the rulers of the relationship houses:

A5H ruler Mercury square B’s 8H ruler (moon) and Vertex, opposite B’s 7H ruler (Mercury)
A7H ruler Pluto - I don't consider these Pluto/South Node conjunctions significant as they're generational.
A8H ruler Jupiter conjunct B’s IC, square B’s Chiron, opposite B’s Mars/Venus.

B5H ruler Mars square A’s Saturn, trine A’s Sun and Mars, opposite A’s 8H ruler (Jupiter)
B7H ruler Mercury conjunct A’s Vertex, opposite A’s 5H ruler (Mercury)
B8H ruler Moon square A’s Moon, trine A’s 8H ruler Jupiter, opposite A’s Mars


To me the most important thing is always to follow the nodes, for they deal with the evolution of consciousness and the reason we incarnated in this life. Especially considering the squares to B's nodal axis, it's important to read up on them. You both have NN in Taurus, so working on that together can be a wonderful experience. Person A's NN is in the 12th while B's is in the 5th.

I won't get too deep into the composite, but the Sun/Venus conjunction is beautiful. The composite north node falls in Taurus in the 3rd house.

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JosieC4
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posted December 05, 2023 02:45 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for JosieC4     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
The times were verified just yesterday, actually! I cant thank you enough for taking the time to look at it and actually give me a thoughtful response. I freakin knew those vertex aspects were something!!

I can see enough to know that there is something significant, possibly karmic/ past life. I can FEEL enough to know that there is something magnetic and binding.... maybe a little unstable? But the auto generated interpretations and the things I've read into haven't really explained much. Asking in other platforms has yielded dismissive, one word replies.So again, thank you!

I'm going to absolutely look deeper into node and vertex aspects. Are there any other areas I should pay attention to? My intuition keeps pulling my eyes to the repeating numbers. Is that a thing or have I just been staring at this too long? I'm still trying to wrap my mind around POF and House Ruler vs Sign. Every time I feel like I'm getting a little competent it gets deeper and more complicated! I love it but I need a mentor!

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sashavittoria
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posted December 05, 2023 03:28 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for sashavittoria     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
You will find many great mentors on this forum, as I have. When in doubt, use a search engine to look for your subject and add "site:linda-goodman.com" and you will find a wealth of EXPERIENCED information.

The numbers and such synchronicities are just synchronicities - no more, no less. They're signs that you're on the right path or in alignment, in general, not just in the relationship.

I highly recommend reading the source I quoted if you want to know more about the Vertex and Nodal axes. The nodes deal with the development of consciousness, while the soul/existence/divinity itself is represented by the vertices. Notice that I say consciousness DEVELOPS while the soul-essence can merely be REPRESENTED. In other words, our divine essence is eternal and unchanging; it does not undergo the evolution that consciousness must. The Higher Self is just THERE, ever-watching, ever-present, unchanging and unbothered.

To learn about the karma and past lives, look to the south node and aspects to it, especially conjunctions and squares. I cannot recommend highly enough to learn everything you can about your nodes.

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itisokay
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posted December 05, 2023 03:58 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for itisokay     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by JosieC4:
Can someone look at my synastry and maybe composite chart? He and I have been friends for over a decade but never looked at each other as anything more until one night we just did. Been inseparable since. The intensity is like nothing I've ever experienced but it's led me to turning my entire life upside down. Please, any insight would be appreciated.

https://tinyurl.com/bddvapp5


I looked at composite since I am somehow better at it. There is a love stelium, I guess you already know this. Love stellium in leo may indicate a very affectionate love and understanding kind of energy. Lots of forgiveness and easy going. You have pluto squaring the love stellium which intensifies the emotions I guess, more jealousy more possesiveness and more emotional growth and change I guess.
Also in synastry your venus and mars is in his fifth house which means your drive and personality in relationship is really adorable for him, triggering lots of playfullnes.
This synastry and composite are not ordinary or common I would say. There is so much potential. It is interesting that you managed to be friends for such a long time.

Edit: upside downs may result from pluto squares I guess. Love stellium is such a strong energy, pluto squaring it kind of results in such changes in life/point of views/habits. It would be easy and more positive growth vised if it was trine but with square, the growth would feel a bit harsh? I guess.

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JosieC4
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posted December 05, 2023 04:21 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for JosieC4     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by itisokay:
I looked at composite since I am somehow better at it. There is a love stelium, I guess you already know this. Love stellium in leo may indicate a very affectionate love and understanding kind of energy. Lots of forgiveness and easy going. You have pluto squaring the love stellium which intensifies the emotions I guess, more jealousy more possesiveness and more emotional growth and change I guess.
Also in synastry your venus and mars is in his fifth house which means your drive and personality in relationship is really adorable for him, triggering lots of playfullnes.
This synastry and composite are not ordinary or common I would say. There is so much potential. It is interesting that you managed to be friends for such a long time.

Edit: upside downs may result from pluto squares I guess. Love stellium is such a strong energy, pluto squaring it kind of results in such changes in life/point of views/habits. It would be easy and more positive growth vised if it was trine but with square, the growth would feel a bit harsh? I guess.



First off, Thank you for taking a look. Im very grateful. I'm going to be completely honest with you, I don't understand what a composite chart is meant to show me. I have no idea how to read it. I have no clue what a love stellium is or how to find one. Sounds nice though!!

That actually makes a lot of sense. We both feel the intensity. When it's negative it can be harsh but it's weirdly simple to resolve.

I had a guy say "these two people probably couldn't even get along long enough to have coffee together." Is that what you mean when you say you're surprised we've managed to be friends so long?

ALSO!! I didn't forget about your chart! I'm still chewin' on it.


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itisokay
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posted December 05, 2023 04:30 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for itisokay     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by JosieC4:

First off, Thank you for taking a look. Im very grateful. I'm going to be completely honest with you, I don't understand what a composite chart is meant to show me. I have no idea how to read it. I have no clue what a love stellium is or how to find one. Sounds nice though!!

That actually makes a lot of sense. We both feel the intensity. When it's negative it can be harsh but it's weirdly simple to resolve.

I had a guy say "these two people probably couldn't even get along long enough to have coffee together." Is that what you mean when you say you're surprised we've managed to be friends so long?

ALSO!! I didn't forget about your chart! I'm still chewin' on it.


No I meant your aspects are rather romantic than being friendly. I guess your mercıry oppositions in synastry are triggering some different views and opinions, that might be the reason your friend said that,, but I think those oppositions may result interesting dynamic which you share different povs respectively.

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JosieC4
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posted December 05, 2023 04:35 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for JosieC4     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by sashavittoria:
You will find many great mentors on this forum, as I have. When in doubt, use a search engine to look for your subject and add "site:linda-goodman.com" and you will find a wealth of EXPERIENCED information.

The numbers and such synchronicities are just synchronicities - no more, no less. They're signs that you're on the right path or in alignment, in general, not just in the relationship.

I highly recommend reading the source I quoted if you want to know more about the Vertex and Nodal axes. The nodes deal with the development of consciousness, while the soul/existence/divinity itself is represented by the vertices. Notice that I say consciousness DEVELOPS while the soul-essence can merely be REPRESENTED. In other words, our divine essence is eternal and unchanging; it does not undergo the evolution that consciousness must. The Higher Self is just THERE, ever-watching, ever-present, unchanging and unbothered.

To learn about the karma and past lives, look to the south node and aspects to it, especially conjunctions and squares. I cannot recommend highly enough to learn everything you can about your nodes.


Im so excited to dive in! Thank you again!!!

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