posted December 16, 2023 02:10 PM
I've gone through it with several, both romantic/ intimate and otherwise. I've just summed up as karmics but the past life connections were blatant in my face. No need to to even look to astrology. Yet I've found in times I'm going through with a couple individuals, maybe it's good to look.
.
I'll start with the most potent of pairings.
With person A - his pluto squares my nn, his north node squares my mercury. So in theory he is meant to destroy certain ways (I'll add houses after a bit) I used to adapt in life. As my venus does reside in the Gemini sector.
I'm meant to teach him, his mind should be used differently from his adapted ways to survive. These are definitely strong lessons which we were connected via Saturn, the binder of lessons due to karmic past life, where Pluto has involved himself, they are a tag team in this rs. His/my Saturn&Venus are cnj in synastry and in midpoint our Sun's are cnj my earthly natal Saturn. We have been responsible to one another in this life for the greater part of our adult lives. I am speaking of my husband. Love that is a binding but a loyal love that faced much opposition, those who came between yet, solid we stood after such difficulties.
The love turned to passionless- yet powerful nonetheless. We are both chart ruled by the mutable energy of Jupiter (sages). When we met, we were very aligned. I grew away from him, as I flipped to the other side of Sagittarius. The more hermetic way. His was moreso the same loveable yet gambler mentality of Sagittarius.
So I've been curious if the Divine wanted our breaking free in those opposition tests, as we are meant to play out past life lessons. Agreements we met yet our obstinate ways kept us tethered.
Facing the worst of opponents more recently (post c19), Pluto has fiercely come between us. I've been very private, to hold in respect our connection again those against us. I may decide to delete this. The most high is our protection through this.
Today we have our midpoint sun with Devine cnj in our 5th house. This has tr jupiter on it but this place they are all congregated to is my n. SATURN in natal deg. This is my karmic passage. It's painful, never would I wish any of this on anyone. This is the end of the year - the torment in Saturn's scythe is discomforting.
Adding
- The midpoint Emperor/ Empress in our charts (his mars/my Venus is cnj his asc.)
In our Davidson the degree of our midpoint Divine F/M (Mars/Venus) is @ 3deg ♎ - http://www.astrologyweekly.com/sabian-symbols/libra-symbols.php
In his prog chart, my asteroid name is cnj his sn. Which reflects our past life lessons and they are currently playing out.
H12. Which lovers, spouses exs etc can sometimes be enemies too. As this 12h is ominous , our past lives we may have been adversaries some how.
But 12h is a lot of hidden stuff too. As we are discovering things often. My progress ct My name is in my 12h tr now too, maybe I did self undermining with him "then". Tr sn in libra, 8th house. I do think this restoration the husband of PL playing in lessons now.
Tr saturn on my name, in venus decan, h2. Which our synastry is a cnj my venus/saturn. Love, money and values are being visited by karma himself, Saturn
See above for our today transits to our midpoint.
Our midpoint currently including contract chart:
From: http://www.mindfire.ca/An%20Astrological%20Mandala/An%20Astrological%20M andala%20-%20Pisces%201-15.htm
"PHASE 333 (PISCES 3°): PETRIFIED TREE TRUNKS LIE BROKEN ON DESERT SAND.
KEYNOTE: The power to preserve records of their achievements which is inherent in fully matured cultures.
When a vast group of men succeed in building a culture with strong institutions which express themselves in significant symbols and works of art or literature, such an effort of many generations is rarely lost altogether. In one form or another, records of this culture endure or are mysteriously preserved, simply because they reveal the place and function of this particular culture in the long process of unfoldment of the potentialities inherent in archetypal MAN. It is such a concept that has been mythified and popularized in the religious idea of the resurrection of the dead on the Last Day. The symbol of petrified wood in the Arizona desert, however, tells us that the actual preservation of the records is never perfect or total. Only fragments remain, significant enough to reveal the essential archetypal form.
This third symbol of the sixty-seventh five-fold sequence brings the promise of social immortality — i.e. the preservation of the enduring (because archetypally meaningful) factors in whatever man attempts within his culture. A symbol of INDESTRUCTABILITY".
My truth things will improve are due to the dominant venus of this trifecta study of the current. Adding Saturn is in detrimental standing. His scytis virtually powerless as long as we might be like Mulder and just believe . Though this chart is emphasized with the kaali influence on the DESC. destruction has been @play. I won't go too personally but this is a serious, matter involving the cohesiveness of this union.
From my pov, friendship is this basis, the seed point. Without a strong seed point, failure may be pronounced.
••••••••••••••••••••••••••••
Person B -
I lost a whole bunch re my first love, person b!
My Droid dumped it but now I'm realizing why, the Divine is at work and "Divine timing" is at play. We were somehow torn apart in our younger days. My stupidity and his pride broke our ties. I'm trying to recall what I originally wrote &lost. I need to re look at the chart factors but NOW very pronounced is the nn in transit is coming back to our mp progress north node!
My name in transit is on his prog asteroid of my name. 8h
Together mp progressed chart: 3/5/7 trine. Gemini, virgo & scorpio.
I'm compelled to believe we will be meeting again, despite how the past was. I see him coming towards me but uncertain if it's to apologize or to revel in memory. Idk, his telepathy with me never ceases. I feel him longing sometimes. This isn't me, I cut his energy away sometime ago. He is strongly connected with me still. His Natal pallas, cnj my n. Venus. His jupiter on my desc. We are each other's desc! He was speaking to me through music today. An old song I'm going to add to the song thread.
My ex *almost husband, person b, has been drunk and reminiscent of days gone by. He's been telepathic with me, I'm feeling his sadness. It's not me he misses, though he believes it is. I am using my intuition here. He is perceiving me as the void he is seeking. It's himself *he is needs*. But the mirror is a terrible reminder to look back, not forward.
His old habits, he hever healed as he is a product of a bartender and family of alcoholism. I miss him and me, the versions of *then. His healing maybe what I was brought into his life for. I'm thinking he feels I'm what he needs - medicinally. Though i cut my thread, my intuition is strongest as time goes by and it could be his pallas with spirits (alcohol) enhancing his potential, oh and his heightened potential to have the later diagnosis of schizophrenia, his mother had it. These bring him radiowave abilities. His mom was super psychic. She shared a lot with me. His being alone if alienated, could bring him stronger capabilities. I just saw tge update to the Shining, Doctor Sleep. He always reminded me a bit of Danny in it. Watching McGregor play the grown role helped me see more clearly his struggles. Of course minus the horror.
I'm realize how in our day he shut me out more easthan I could him, his pluto square my ascending. I think he was hot for me until I ruind his ego. His pride couldn't fathom any more interest and for him I Went from Bell > Beast. Which if he ever got therapy, he might have realized this too.
The pain I brought him to lead to our ending is painted by his karma hitting in cnj with my kaali 4227. I definitely seemed like I was sticking out my tongue and doing my worst to destroy his ego and heart. Though I loved him tremendously, it was my as I say stupidity to bring myself into a situation that I could have let go and never been honest to him over. Instead I called him overseas to ruin us. It was not a better moment in my life, let me admit. I was in self destruction as well.. so this was played out, he was given back karma from the previous lifetime we shared. I did my role as we might had planned from beyond the world stage. Think I was unscathed? Think again. From my 3h sandwich his Saturn is my Devine&Karma so this was a lesson we were both Divinely given. I'm certain as he saved my life. When he did this he would take a song to mind to commemorate the event. Billy Joel's Only a Woman to me. There's a line in there that captured the moment we cemented in that time-line.
Honestly, I now see we were *supposed to rise above this lesson and find our way back into each other's arms again! Let me explain
Our karma in midpoint hit my NN! Yes, we are SN connected but sometimes I have felt others always kept us from being truly together. We never fully had our past life lovestory fulfilled. We were given this harsh test to try us on a trial of the HEART. We failed. I let his ego get hurt, while he was bent on retribution, he definitely gave more than he got. So this was my reason person 2 didn't get to the finish line. But the connection might have meant to last a short time anyways. I'm actually certain we were a story within a bigger novel.
Oddly his karma is opposite my husband's karma. So I'm definitely understanding things differently than the common way.
Our prog mp Karma/speigle are now getting hit by the tr karma! We are both experiencing the karma of how we hurt one another. In pisces, hence his drinking and my feelings related with prison and hospitals. This sequence is playing out like we are locked in each other's minds - though it's 5D weaving between us with 3D. To ensure we receive the results from our karma, long awaited. He might have swallowed his pride for another. I was given the path to remain loyal, despite everything. Where we failed one another, we could not repeat with another. The opposition of karma for us is
Pluto. Dharma is pluto influenced. I feel our pleasure (h5) in self destruction might be the dharma, which is whacked. I wonder if we both blame ourselves in the soul contract where we destructed. I need to mull this one, as yes I seem to have overly enjoyed pluto a bit too much in my years since.
My serious heart break of recent is my husband. I can't be of help to him and we are
experiencing the saturn tests. He's going through it, for that matter we both are.
If I did ever have a twin, my husband would have to be him.
Though I'm starting to believe the fractals are all our twin, soulmates and soul family. We are slivers of ONE. I have been introspective on this most my life. Born an only child - I connected strongly with others and when the disconnect would occur, the hermit side of me would explode into deep thinking, soul wandering and air bending life. My life but the theory of "everything".
••••••••••
Person C - less examples or descriptions here.
This is a karmic, I "believed cared, loved" me. I deluded myself.
His karma/my karma in midpoint Don't hit anything significant. They do fire trine his
N. Uranus. Which this karmic tie was a shock from the beginning to the absolute shocking final curtain. Our MP Davidson has Kaali/Divine cnj (0). This was definitely felt. I knew this was Divinely brought upon us. It was too destructive.
*if need be, I'll add for learning purposes only.
Person D , I'll refer to as my Libra friend. I knew the moment we spoke that there was a lot of past lives attachment between us. He didn't, due to his religious programming. Instead he saw me romantically, intimately. We never *clears throat but I would be lying I said we did want it. person C might have woken up to the spiritual side of us, finally that we been *no contact a long time.
Our karma asteroids in mp are nearly exact my Saturn! How's that for karmic ties? Simply I'll say I met him while married, yes he knew but this was not adult rs, more a friendship 2way crush.
In his comparison chart, my asreroid name in his drac hits his natal karma.
I do feel he felt me super strongly but he pushed and I rebounded. I was leaning then on a divorce. My mil died, this was the tower that came because I was supposed to leave my husband, the Divine had told me to or a tower, the tower was my mil. I stayed. Out of loyalty. Suffice to say, she died, I self sacrificed tbh. It's a long story but life isn't all peaches n cream. So, painting this out with person D -
In progress our mp
has Divine/karma cnj my Divine/karma in natal. Our tr uranus I saw hitting with our karma. Stocking. tr sn cnj our mp uranus.
More editing..
Our prog midpoint Divine Empress/Emperor are now cnj the tr pallas and Destinn. I feel this seeing something thoroughly regarding destiny and pairings. Maybe I failed two Divine pairings. Idk but in my current situation, my
Clairsentience has been increased with the "feeling" sense heightened. Person A had a terrible injury that I get pain in that location due to the distance this time. I feel I was given this lesson to build my abilities, through heart and physical pain. Back to Person D.
••••••••••
Let's not get too thorough, I'm skipping to person Z! Yes - I see him as someone in the know about me from our first meeting! He is involved in a certain group who knew me intirely and planned to marry me, I got away from this union but he remains watchful.
Tr sun hits our mp progress asteroid Telephus. I'm aware, he's present even now. Like person 2. The constant psychic connection.
Our mid point Divine Emperor/Empress are air trine our mp karma.
Synastry his kaali is cnj my venus, he set out to have a possessiveness so this might be a bit like pluto/venus. His kaali in his natal is cnj my name in his chart. Only that experience between Venus/Pluto, I loved the pluto man despite his harshness towards me. This person Z showed up and vowed to erase anyone who was not him.
Our Davidson validates our past lives with cnj (0) pluto/SN.
Weirdest thing, I tap into what's in the chart by asteroid to look for often. I felt the need to look @Speigle. As it's "mirror " and it's transit currently during the end of '23 is cnj (0) with tr SN.
How's this for mirroring? Divine feminine (Libra) and DM (Aries) are both 21'12 in the transits. I find this exceedingly special as we are at the END of '23. So buckle up, Spiritual lessons will expand and knowing is coming.
... so yes, they all are reflecting on the past, as everyone has this happening now as well!
We as a collective are going deep. Z and I have it in Libra (justice).
- Person D was once family, 4th house highlighted with SN/mirror now
- person Z was an obsessed family member, his ic lit by SN&Mirror
- person A, family! As I've said, a brother.
Maybe we had type of sibling rs that isn't considered *right.
- the person C is more complex, either he's truly another pt of myself, as in a twin or we were somehow in a situation where one was a slave, other master. It's definitely karma if this fits h2. It seems cusp atm, I'll look a bit more but it did turn out to be as I stated "self delusion". Despite the house it was toxic maybe the spillover of our past lives.
Plus we have mp in Davidson my name/karma cnj (1). We worked through karma, it didn't get healed but was attempted.
Might be a twin after all but anyone who romanticized or thinks passion etc, yeah it's great but toxicity isn't healthy.
- Person B, I hadn't realized I didn't include him, he's showing up in 8h. Spouse. My guess is it ended quickly in past lives. We knew one another at my coming into "womanhood", he
was inlove with me as if we never didn't *know one another. As I said, his mind is sensitive, his abilities strong.
So sorry this was huge, if you've been reading it. (I'll edit soon). It occurred to me Spirit evoked this out of me to open my heart chakra wide for the year Portal 23/24 doorway.
I have truly felt led to dive into this as well my psy abilities are enhancing as I'm listening, feeling and sensing what I'm mean to - finally.
I picked 3. This is occurring already. I'm wrap-up the restoration to my clairs. http://youtu.be/fuJrjn1HgM8?si=gpDJIVc4ub95L-FO
•••••••••••••••••••••••••••••••••••
I'm sharing this as in part to my studies of how we may be effected by the charts and the reflection within our realities of these relationships. [/i]
-
I have a lot to do offline but I plan to add our mid-point and other connected energies that may bring us into this strong tie.
This thread is open for you too to share your relationships like this if you wish. - Pls don't quote -