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ana_bee
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posted February 12, 2024 02:01 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for ana_bee     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I now know what it feels like to be Saturn in this synastry aspect. I have it with the first person in my life where I also experienced a Vertex conj Asc DW (0-1 degree) and a Venus square NN.
It was so intense and immediate, he wanted me so badly and the chemistry was out of this world.. sadly I couldn’t handle the relationship. His Venus is in Aqua, my Saturn is in Scorpio. And while I’m familiar with Aqua energy (his Venus conj my IC in Aqua) I still don’t like the emotionally detached style of loving, it makes me feel insecure, and that’s exactly what happened. I started doubting his feelings for me, the more our relationship progressed. One day he pulled me in with intensity, the next day he’d be super distant toward me.. I couldn’t handle the back and forth, it made me overly critical towards him. I dissected his whole persona and was pretty mean towards him in our last conversation, I pushed him over the edge with my words. He later told me that he believed I blew up the relationship on purpose, to get away from him and that’s exactly what happened. I was shocked after he told me how much he believed I was the real deal and that he truly loved me. It just happened recently, I have the feeling that we’ll try again.. bc I really miss him and the physical part between us.. but yeah, I just wanted to share, bc I couldn’t understand the Saturn/Venus square before. I always thought it was one-sided with Venus being the only one who’s in love. Now since I’m the Saturn, I can genuinely tell you that Saturn is just too afraid, and if Saturn is able to reflect on their own feelings, they would realize how much they actually love Venus. It’s definitely a challenge but maybe a challenge worth taking.

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posted February 13, 2024 06:45 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for sashavittoria     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hey ana_bee, thank you for sharing. I had DW Venus-Saturn aspects with my ex and we are still friends with an enduring bond. I think you might like this blog post on the "solution to Venus square Saturn" - I found it referenced in an older LL thread. Best of luck, keep us updated.

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posted February 13, 2024 07:48 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for SleepyDiary     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
It`s usually the Saturn person that is the one that is interested and wants a serious relationship with the other even in friendships i have seen this so it`s actually better if both people are Saturn. The Saturn person is more committed, dedicated and serious about the relationship so it`s unfortunate when they find themselves drawn to someone that doesn`t feel the same but even when it`s mutual interest this is still the case and this is how the Saturn person acts in the relationship and they can be quite possessive over the personal planet person because of insecurity and they might tend to critisize the planet person because they might be more comfortable having the planet person on the insecure side so they don`t grow apart from the Saturn person or atleast this might be what the Saturn person thinks. The Saturn person can be very insecure and will often seek reassurance through toxic critisizing ways where the planet person needs to "prove" themselves in some way. You either got to accept that Venus in Aquas have a more casual approach to their relationships and that includes their romantic ones too and learn to work with it and not take it personally and give them their space when they need it or drop the whole thing. This is how they are and often times they don`t mean anything bad about it they are just more casual when it comes to their relationships. And be careful about needing too much reassurance they usually can`t stand that. It`s no point in continuing if this is something you can`t handle.

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posted February 13, 2024 09:36 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for vansio     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
dealt recently with my sun conjunct a guy’s descendent and saturn. my saturn trines his sun. sun sextile venus dw too. he self-sabotaged his relationship to “me” too his fear got the better of him and so he ghosted me

my moon falls in his 5H, my Sun in his 7H, and my Venus in his 8H. he said that “he doesn’t want to fall in love” after already admitting more than once that he loves me, and ran

so no, Saturn is not necessarily the more committed one. especially not before 35 years old

live and let live ~ let go and let god

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posted February 13, 2024 10:23 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for SleepyDiary     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
[QUOTE]Originally posted by vansio:


I have been Saturn at my most immature and i was still annoyingly committed to the planet person even when i had my moments of "running" away because i had a hard time moving on unlike when i have not been Saturn. In the relationship both can be serious about it but Saturn is more committed or loyal to it even in friendships i have seen this, when Saturn is done the whole relationship is done. They are usually the ones that keep the relationship going and are the reason why the people involved still are in contact. The personal planet person don`t have the same drive and committment as the Saturn person so when it`s over usually because of the Saturn person the relationship is over. Watch it happen the other way around when it is the personal planet person trying to end the relationship but the Saturn person isn`t done with it yet you better believe the relationship won`t be over until Saturn is ready and this is where Saturn might experience the one-sided attraction, loyality,committment and dedication because they can be so annoyingly committed to a relationship or a person that they are willing to suffer through a lot of bs and are very patient with the personal planet person probably more than what they have ever been with anyone else even when the Saturn person is an immature and flaky person they still have a hard time moving on from the personal planet person unlike when it is the personal planet person being dumped they won`t come running and trying really hard to make it "work" they have an easier time accepting it and moving on even when they still care about the person but their drive just isn`t as strong but they might hang onto the Saturn person IF the Saturn person is holding the door open for that.

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posted February 13, 2024 11:18 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for vansio     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote

btw, i dumped him in november. he seemed too insecure (an insecure attachment style) and messy for my tastes. self-sabotaging as i stated (an immature saturn)

last we saw each other, a couple weeks after a few months of no contact after i departed, he also said he “hasn’t been able to be with other women the same way since”



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posted February 13, 2024 11:50 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for SleepyDiary     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote

But you said he ghosted you though because of him being insecure and not the other way around and now you say that you were the one that ended it with him because he was so insecure haha. This just proves my point that you ended up back in contact even when you had ended it. Anyways don`t be surprised if you hear from him again in a month or two or months from now if he is not over you yet 😊 But the Saturn person usually ends it for good when they`ve had enough.

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posted February 13, 2024 11:50 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for vansio     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
i personally have an aquarius sun conjunct saturn and a capricorn moon and capricorn descendant. i am aware of the varying levels and ways of saturn.. we shall see if he returns. though i’m not sure that i want him too.

he ghosted me in the sense of him not reaching out to me first since we saw each other. its been three weeks. i chalk it up to him being overwhelmed, scared of commitment, and i do not take it personally.

if i reached out to him right now, he would reply immediately. and i have reached out to him on a few occasions in the past weeks and he does respond immediately (under an hour). i consider this “ghosting” when he’s not actively pursuing me. so i’m just letting him be.

you are forgetting that i have saturn trine to his sun as well. and as a super saturnian person by birth, my saturn is highly active, doesnt require synastry to be brought to my attention or developed.

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posted February 13, 2024 12:14 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for vansio     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Thanks sleepydiary ❤️ 👍

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posted February 13, 2024 12:18 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for sashavittoria     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I love that Saturn graphic so much! Especially putting it in terms of tamas/rajas/sattva. Thanks for posting it, V.

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posted February 13, 2024 12:20 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for vansio     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
here you go @sasha full video: http://youtu.be/kkMElVBzmBE

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posted February 13, 2024 12:35 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for SleepyDiary     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I went to eat and forgot that you asked my apologies. But something i have noticed with Saturnians/Capricorn influence is that they can have a hard time admitting when they are not in control and when someone has made them weak in the knees, sorry but this is just something i have noticed so many times. It`s always "they" who broke it off or "they" were less into the other or "they" really didn`t care when they left etc even when it`s written all over their face how much they really care they just seem to have a hard time being vulnerable. You just proved what i have been trying to say even when you broke it off you ended up back in contact with him but the same won`t happen when the Saturn person is truly over the personal planet person.

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posted February 13, 2024 12:37 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for sashavittoria     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Thank you vansio!

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posted February 13, 2024 12:37 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for vansio     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
i reached out to him, to check up on him. thats how we got back into contact. i’m also a psychic medium. 8H moon conjunct uranus and neptune and sextile pluto . i could tell he was suffering endlessly over me ending our fling. though its too many details to go into this

just a note: you really shouldn’t make any assumptions or projections onto my personal situation nor my character… please dont put me in the position of having to clarify (just know, despite the difficulties i speak for, there’s no hard feelings between him and i). i broke it off with him because there was an tricky ex girlfriend still involved in his life; that he was hung up on; even unresolved property matters between them. with that said, i dont mean to make this topic personal, about my relationship, so lets keep it general from hereonout

he thanked me for the reconciliation, his words: that this was “brave” of me to reach out. he said to me, his words, “after my [his] behavior, by time i came to my senses, so long had passed that i didnt know how to reach out to you [vansio] again. and i’m very sorry for having pushed you away.” but in a way, he’s just doing it again . taking too long and then scaring himself

anyways, moral of the story, there are different levels to saturn. refer to image above!

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posted February 13, 2024 01:06 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for SleepyDiary     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
And i also said the personal planet person can hold onto the Saturn person if the Saturn holds the door open for it which you admitted the guy wasn`t over you and you could tell he was in pain so you felt comfortable enough to reach out to him and natally you have Saturn influence so you might by nature be serious and committed to your relationships. But someone who`s non Saturnian and ends up being the personal planet person on a person`s Saturn won`t have the same "dedication" to the relationship even when they are into the person from what i have seen.

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posted February 13, 2024 01:07 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for vansio     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
totally 👍 they might not understand what’s happening; take it personally, let alone people who dont have astrology at hand. sattva saturn = detachment, clear judgement, impartiality and selflessness (acts of service)

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posted February 13, 2024 03:45 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for ana_bee     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by sashavittoria:
Hey ana_bee, thank you for sharing. I had DW Venus-Saturn aspects with my ex and we are still friends with an enduring bond. I think you might like this blog post on the "solution to Venus square Saturn" - I found it referenced in an older LL thread. Best of luck, keep us updated.

Will check this out, thank you!❤️

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posted February 13, 2024 03:50 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for ana_bee     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by SleepyDiary:
And i also said the personal planet person can hold onto the Saturn person if the Saturn holds the door open for it which you admitted the guy wasn`t over you and you could tell he was in pain so you felt comfortable enough to reach out to him and natally you have Saturn influence so you might by nature be serious and committed to your relationships. But someone who`s non Saturnian and ends up being the personal planet person on a person`s Saturn won`t have the same "dedication" to the relationship even when they are into the person from what i have seen.

@sleepydiary @vansio
Thank you guys for sharing your experiences with this aspect.

Is any of you familiar with Venus square the nodes in synastry. I am Saturn, I’m also the node person. My Saturn is in a wide conjunction to my SN in 1st house Scorpio.
His Venus in Aqua forms a square to my Saturn and also a square to my nodes (2 degrees) it’s pretty close
Can you tell me how this energy plays out?

We also have a composite Moon conj composite NN. It’s a tight conjunction, 1 degree and Uranus+Juno conj composite SN, also 1 degree. CompSun is sadly in 12th house but conj the Asc.

Is Venus square NN in synastry , doomed?

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posted February 14, 2024 03:20 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for vansio     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
http://cafeastrology.com/articles/saturninsynastry.html

the late astrologer Jeff Wolf Green talks about “skipped steps when nodes square a planet”. Perhaps you might find some intel perusing the board for that particular topic.

i’ll also bump an old thread for you on planets aspecting composite nodes based on SkyMates2 book

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posted February 14, 2024 03:41 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for ana_bee     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
@vansio

Do you know if the skipped step happened before or is it something that’s supposed to happen in this lifetime?

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posted February 14, 2024 05:51 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for vansio     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
its supposedly something in regards to the development of the planet. the nodes represent both the past and the future

its not literal

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posted February 14, 2024 06:19 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for SleepyDiary     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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@sleepydiary @vansio
Thank you guys for sharing your experiences with this aspect.

Is any of you familiar with Venus square the nodes in synastry. I am Saturn, I’m also the node person. My Saturn is in a wide conjunction to my SN in 1st house Scorpio.
His Venus in Aqua forms a square to my Saturn and also a square to my nodes (2 degrees) it’s pretty close
Can you tell me how this energy plays out?

We also have a composite Moon conj composite NN. It’s a tight conjunction, 1 degree and Uranus+Juno conj composite SN, also 1 degree. CompSun is sadly in 12th house but conj the Asc.

Is Venus square NN in synastry , doomed?


Your relationship with him might bring some obstacles to your future devolopment or your future but i don`t see it as a doomed aspect. For example you might get a great job offer in a different city but your relationship with him makes you turn it down or you might have difficulty (but not impossible) evolving being in this relationship.

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posted February 15, 2024 09:10 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for ana_bee     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Here’s our synastry and composite chart.
I’m on the inside circle. I know our composite is weak..
can you see the purpose of our relationship?

Interestingly, his NN is in 1st house in his natal chart and mine is in 7th house. For some background info, he was married before (no children). He was married for 7 years to a woman, who was basically the love of his life. Perfect relationship, super romantic story how they met, tragic ending.

I’m his first relationship after this. Before me, he couldn’t commit to anyone after his marriage ended, and while he’s with me, I think he’s still not quite open emotionally, at least that’s how I perceived it, before he told me that he’s in love with me. Seeing his NN in first house, gives me the impression that being in a committed relationship, goes against his life purpose. With me it’s the opposite. I’m a serial monogamist. I cannot commit, even if my life depended on it, but I can‘t stay single for a day, either. Relationships happen to me all the time, I don’t seek them out, it‘s just that I fall in love easily.
I‘m addicted to being in love, the initial stages, but I get super nervous as the relationship progresses. Every single time! I get invested deeply in the beginning, but as soon as things get serious, I want to get out.

The only relationship I actually worked for and put in a lot of effort, was the relationship to my child’s father. We weren’t married, but we stayed together for some time (almost 4 yrs, my longest relationship so far) and we’re still friends as we co-parent our child.

I want a committed relationship but I realized that I’m the problem most of the time. I want things to be perfect and I’m addicted to the chase and to being in love. I can’t handle the routine, although I want to. It’s also hard for me to find a balance between merging with my partner and staying an individual. I found astrology, btw, because of this issue. Before, I didn’t have the words to explain what was wrong with me. After I saw, where my Nodes fell and what it meant to have a NN in 7th house and the Scorpio/Taurus theme, everything made sense to me! This is exactly my story, my biggest challenge.

So this is basically who we are, and we came together and I think, this again will probably just end up to be a 6months to a year -thing, something that I‘ve been attracting ad nauseum, since forever. My relationships are like short term projects. If I had to write down my Curriculum Vitae or my life story, I would use my relationships, the names of the people I dated, as chapters or paragraphs in my resume. It’s ridiculous, but that’s how it is.

Currently transit Jupiter is conjuncting my DSC. It’s been in conjunction when we met last year, then it went retro and now it’s in direct conjunction again. That gives me some hope, that he could be the one, although our composite isn’t promising with the sun/saturn square and the moon/uranus opposition. 😕
It‘s unfortunate bc I really like him.

Here are the charts, would be interesting to know what you see.


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