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AquaMoon323
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posted February 13, 2024 06:27 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for AquaMoon323     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Why can’t I shake him? 😩 I’m writing from my phone so don’t know how to upload charts but I’d rly appreciate some insight to our chart.

I’ll write some noteworthy aspects since you can’t see the charts. And ps I have Venus in Aries he has Venus in Gemini so I think both of us aren’t too uncomfortable with our chaos 😩😂

I’ve wrote about him before but quick back story. We’ve own each other 4 years now and we have a very open fwb type of relationship. He’s tried to make it more in the past I denied but we remained in each others lives. Recently we’ve gotta even closer (as far as seeing each other more often due to me i was always the one keeping distance) I’ve rly started to feel the intensity in our relationship. I feel like we tend to be vulnerable to each other at different times. When he’s vulnerable im guarded and vice versa. Even though I think it’s probably for the best because if we were to both be vulnerable to each other at the same time it’s probably be way too intense. The distance and the restraint keeps some balance. And we also have a lot of Saturn influence in our synastry and natal. (He’s cap moon im cap asc) I’ve been trying to cut him off for months and I tend to leave and come back often it hasn’t stuck yet! Haven’t seen him since NYE I’m rly trying to let it go but I find myself craving our intensity and not to mention the sex is rly good (his Mars in my 8th house 😩 so even harder to let it go completely lol I’ve tried so many things to upset him but he rly doesn’t react to anything and he still never refuses me. I know I lack the discipline/desire at this moment to leave him alone forever so I try and get him to cut me off but he won’t do it. Maybe it’s boredom because I’m not currently seeing anyone else or maybe I rly just enjoy to passion or maybe it’s a little of both! 🤷‍♀️ he’s been the most consistent person in my life even with our unconventional dynamic there is a confort and security in feeling like he’s always there and he’s seen the worst of me and haven’t walked away. That’s what made me grow feelings for him is just seeing how accepting and consistent he’s been for me and even if he only does it for his own selfish benefit I do appreciate that he’s still here!

Without his birth time we have in synastry:

Me|Him

Mars opposite Mars (Pisces/Virgo) 4degrees

Asc conjuct moon (cap) exact degree

Sun & asc trine Mars (Taurus/cap-Virgo)

Venus trine sun (Aries/Leo) 4 degrees

Mars sextile moon (Pisces/cap) 3 degrees

Sun trine moon (Taurus/cap) 2 degrees

Sun square Saturn (Taurus/aqua) 3 degrees

Moon opposite sun (aqua/Leo) 3 degrees

Moon trine Jupiter (aqua/libra) 4 degrees

Mars trine pluto (Pisces/Scorpio) 3degrees

Saturn conjunct moon (cap) 2 degrees

Sun opposite Pluto (Taurus/Scorpio) 2 degrees

Pluto square sun (Taurus/Leo) 7 degrees


If the birth time I have for him is correct it would make our asc opposite cap/cancer exact degree

House overlay
His planets my house

Sun in my 7th
Moon in my 1st (which I also my natally)
Mercury & Venus in my 6th
Mars & Jupiter in my 8th
Saturn in my 1st (which I also my natally)
Uranus and Neptune in my 12th
Pluto in my 10th
Node in my 11th
Lilith in my 2nd
Chiron in my 7th (which I also my natally)


If his birth time is correct I would have a lot of planets in his 11th & 6th House and my moon in his 8th

Composite wise we have

Sun in cancer 1 degree
Moon in cap 29 degrees
Mercury in Gemini 29 degrees
Venus in Taurus 21 degrees
Mars in Sag 21 degrees

And a big composite aspect
Venus opposite Pluto 😩 1 degree

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hellosunshine
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posted February 13, 2024 09:59 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for hellosunshine     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I'm still learning but let me take a crack at this...

Well an 8th house overlay is sure to make for some intense addiction. Mars or Venus there is definitely a LOT. I mean the passion is popping but it's not an energy just anybody can handle. That is one aspect of your connection that is felt instantly. With your moon in his 8th there can be imo a sense of emotional trauma bonding and emotional codependency attachment that can be overwhelming and difficult to break. An aspect I think leads to separation anxiety a bit.

You guys seem to have prominent Pluto aspects in synastry too and Pluto is a heightened version of mars and if synastry leans Plutonian that addictive bond will be prominent.

His sun being in your 7th house brings him to the forefront. You may prioritize him above others in your mind. But that Saturn in your 1st you can find him a bit cold a bit distant when you want to be closer, especially since your moon falls in his 8th. His approach to you can become frustrating. You kinda will find it hard to be on the same page about your relationship. When one gets closer the other will pull away. Saturn and moon in your 1st contradict each other so mixed signals.

Then there's the 6th house overlay bogging down Venus and other planets. There can be a lack of romance and love and if you get together you may find him nitpicking you or being overtly critical. Other than sex your love may feel boring.

There's no chart shown but from the info you've given you seem to be in a plutonian, physical heavy relationship that is stifled by Saturns influence which can be difficult to break. Emotion and love seem seem lacking especially on his part. You'll be obsessed but the relationship may never get off the ground or go from hot to cold just making you frustrated.

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AquaMoon323
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posted February 14, 2024 02:12 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for AquaMoon323     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by hellosunshine:
I'm still learning but let me take a crack at this...

Well an 8th house overlay is sure to make for some intense addiction. Mars or Venus there is definitely a LOT. I mean the passion is popping but it's not an energy just anybody can handle. That is one aspect of your connection that is felt instantly. With your moon in his 8th there can be imo a sense of emotional trauma bonding and emotional codependency attachment that can be overwhelming and difficult to break. An aspect I think leads to separation anxiety a bit.

You guys seem to have prominent Pluto aspects in synastry too and Pluto is a heightened version of mars and if synastry leans Plutonian that addictive bond will be prominent.

His sun being in your 7th house brings him to the forefront. You may prioritize him above others in your mind. But that Saturn in your 1st you can find him a bit cold a bit distant when you want to be closer, especially since your moon falls in his 8th. His approach to you can become frustrating. You kinda will find it hard to be on the same page about your relationship. When one gets closer the other will pull away. Saturn and moon in your 1st contradict each other so mixed signals.

Then there's the 6th house overlay bogging down Venus and other planets. There can be a lack of romance and love and if you get together you may find him nitpicking you or being overtly critical. Other than sex your love may feel boring.

There's no chart shown but from the info you've given you seem to be in a plutonian, physical heavy relationship that is stifled by Saturns influence which can be difficult to break. Emotion and love seem seem lacking especially on his part. You'll be obsessed but the relationship may never get off the ground or go from hot to cold just making you frustrated.


WOOOOOOOW 😮😮😮 to say you hit the nail on the head is an understatement!!! 😩

First I’ll start with your comment about the Mars in 8th house it is ALOT and the connection was felt instantly the minute I saw him it was like omg who is this person I felt an energy around him instantly! And the my moon in his 8th that is very true! I def think we have a trama bond and I definitely have an emotional dependency to him. That’s rly the foundation of our relationship. He has been a constant for he someone that was always in the back ground even has I dated other people and he was always some I could lean on in my time of need when those other relationships failed he was my getaway. I do think I have some separation anxiety with him because he’s been there for so long I don’t rly know what it looks like to not have him as my safety blanket it makes me uneasy thinking about it.

And yes the Saturn and moon in my 1st which I also have natally I feel that 100% and I think in a way that’s why I don’t completely hate him for it lol because I do identify with that energy and can come off very hot and cold myself! I do it with him still all the time I’m just way more expressive about it all. One minute I can be vulnerable the next Im distant and cold. And he definitely reflects similar behavior we just tend to do it at opposite times lol lately he has been in the cold stance and me in the hot and it is very frustrating because it just feels constanly like we just can’t seem to get on the same page at the same time. So it’s extreme frustrating but I rly like there’s just treasure of a bond we could have but we just can’t seem to unlock it but the thought of it keeps me on the hook.

And about the 6th house placements hearing all his I definitely think his birth time is correct because our dynamic sounds very accurate based on that so below I will write out my planet placements for him. But I definitely feel that as well! We have a bit of a routine where we have fun together as I stated he was that outlet and comfort for me so we would often just hang out get drunk play games etc we have a very friendly energy together could be the 11th house stuff. We joke we laugh we have playful banter and it’s like one or the other! It often feels like we swing from being platonic friends by day and intense passionate lovers by night lol just to give an example has to the fact that the energies tend to me compartmentalized. I often feel like just his friend which annoys me because I want to experience a sweeter softer side to him but he doesn’t tend to get like that with me often esp is a serious non joking way.

I am well aware that we lack compatibility to have a real chance an a relationship and I tell him that but I still have some reason has want him around. I do fear that eventually he will find someone that’s suited for him and though I will be happy for him I will miss what we have. Ultimately I know this will eventually end but he will always have a special place in my heart and even with all his shortcoming and coldness towards me at times I do think he cares about me too and that we will always remember each other when I’m time is finally up. And it’s that level of understanding that complicates things because although we want to stay connect to each other we also can’t allow that to stop us from dating other people to find someone that is an actual fit for us. So it’s a weird dance of I know there’s other people but I still hope you don’t like them more yet lol


My planets his house

Sun & mercury in 11th
Moon in 8th
Venus in 11th
Mars in 10th
Jupiter in 12th
Saturn in 7th
Uranus & Neptune in 6th
Pluto in 5th
Node in 9th
Lilith in 5th
Chiron in 12th
ASC in 7th

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AquaMoon323
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posted February 14, 2024 02:33 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for AquaMoon323     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
And I rly do think he has some emotional issues as well. Looking at his chart with this birth time he has Chiron in the 4th house which I read talks about about issues growing up and potential lack of emotional stability. I don’t now much about his home life but I know his dad is in the military and he was born overseas and then moved to America and I can imagine having a military dad that could have some emotional cold issues or effect family dynamics and he also has Venus Square Mars which I’ve heard can create relationship issues and he has Venus in his 12th house which I don’t know much about the placement but sounds problematic lol and he has cap moon opposite his cancer asc natally

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posted February 14, 2024 03:20 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for hellosunshine     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by AquaMoon323:
And I rly do think he has some emotional issues as well. Looking at his chart with this birth time he has Chiron in the 4th house which I read talks about about issues growing up and potential lack of emotional stability. I don’t now much about his home life but I know his dad is in the military and he was born overseas and then moved to America and I can imagine having a military dad that could have some emotional cold issues or effect family dynamics and he also has Venus Square Mars which I’ve heard can create relationship issues and he has Venus in his 12th house which I don’t know much about the placement but sounds problematic lol and he has cap moon opposite his cancer asc natally

I was gonna ultimately say my conclusion is that he has friendzoned you in his mind but I didn’t want to be too harsh or cold in my post . It’s the 11th and 6th house combo. A lot of the aspects give very much fwb I like but for the time being. The romance and love is missing. A placeholder until he’s sure of what he wants. But I think he may not even be sure of what it is that he wants.

He does have difficult natal aspects. I had an ex have Venus square mars in natal and it was as like he didn’t have the ability to fully love even with our good aspects in synastry and composite. He was kinda always at 30-50% and just battling himself. I’m a believer that natal charts aspects can outweigh even the best synastry and composite. Relationships start with the person!

12th house Venus native are gods strongest soldiers lol. They simply do not trust in love. They wanna hide that part of themselves to not get hurt. Having both aspects…yeah he needs to heal and evolve himself so he is ready to love others fully and even himself (12th house is also about self worth) There’s gonna be a ton of walls up for security and defense and hidden agendas. Kinda heartbreaking and misfortunate in love. There’s a tendency to hide back in their shells or be aloof to cope. With effort tho anything can be worked on, but it’ll take a lot of self work.

He has to really want this relationship or else it’s gonna end up in heartbreak for you. Just wait and see but if you enjoy your time with him then take the relationship face value for what it truly is and not what it can be! Going with the flow is best here Sex and friendship isn’t too bad

Happy Valentine’s Day!

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posted February 14, 2024 03:58 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for AquaMoon323     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by hellosunshine:
I was gonna ultimately say my conclusion is that he has friendzoned you in his mind but I didn’t want to be too harsh or cold in my post . A lot of the aspects give very much fwb I like but for the time being. The romance and love is missing. A placeholder until he’s sure of what he wants. But I think he may not even be sure of what it is that he wants.

He does have difficult natal aspects. I had an ex have Venus square mars in natal and it was as like he didn’t have the ability to fully love even with our good aspects in synastry and composite. He was kinda always at 30-50% and just battling himself. I’m a believer that natal charts aspects can outweigh even the best synastry and composite. Relationships start with the person!

12th house Venus native are gods strongest soldiers lol. They simply do not trust in love. They wanna hide that part of themselves to not get hurt. Having both aspects…yeah he needs to heal and evolve himself so he is ready to love others fully and even himself (12th house is also about self worth) There’s gonna be a ton of walls up for security and defense and hidden agendas. Kinda heartbreaking and misfortunate in love. There’s a tendency to hide back in their shells or be aloof to cope. With effort tho anything can be worked on, but it’ll take a lot of self work.

He has to really want this relationship or else it’s gonna end up in heartbreak for you. Just wait and see but if you enjoy your time with him then take the relationship face value for what it truly is and not what it can be! Going with the flow is best here Sex and friendship isn’t too bad

Happy Valentine’s Day!



Hello sunshine you rly are my sunshine!! Lol thank you so much for your insight. I am a big believer in astrology even though I have a lot to learn but hearing your prospective definitely validates everything I feel! I’m happy to know that I am not just crazy and that it rly is in the stars the dynamic we have. And I agree friendship and sex isn’t bad I mean it worked all these years but I recently just started to get rly insecure about it I have my own Chiron in cancer issues of feeling unlovable and so I just started to seek more validation from him that he had more feelings then just the sex but as you stated I definitely think he has alot of personal issues so I don’t think it personal to me. I love him and appreciate the dynamic but recently I just think I got paranoid and overly invested and ultimately that doesn’t work for our dynamic.

I am still trying to release him. I spoke to him recently after having him blocked and it was nice to talk to him it’s so easy for us to just slide into joking and banter. I fought the temptation to go see him and I will continue to do that because ultimately a lesson I have to learn for myself is that I am worth more than a good time. I tend to find myself in alot of passion filled relationships but I do what that depth and a real emotional connection and so he does feed that side of me that desires that fun, passionate and free spirited nature(probably my Aqua and Aries influence) but ultimately I crave an emotional and deep love (mars in Pisces influence probably lol) and I just can’t keep entertaining something I know for a fact can’t grow past what it is. So I just have to go back to keeping my distance from him and if I have the occasional slip up on a drunk night then maybe I’ll call him lol but he can’t be someone I talk to and see regularly because I find this dynamic triggering

Also my friend is trying to set me up with a Virgo sun guy (I’m a Taurus sun) I have Venus opposite Mars double whammy and his sun, mercury, Venus & Chiron are in my 8th house his moon in my 12th 😩 I’ve been a little scared to meet him but we’ll see lol

Thank you again for your feedback and Happy Valentines Day to you as well!! 🤗

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