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LilyIris07
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posted March 23, 2024 05:01 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for LilyIris07     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hey folks! I actually got this persons correct birth time - and I'd like a little interpretation if anyone wouldn't mind?

I don't think the synastry is too bad - but the composite screams short term/won't get off the ground to me. I do like the juno opposite sun/venus - and transit nn is conjunct sun/venus right now so it makes sense that we've become friends.

Composite nn is widely conjunct his natal moon - composite saturn is conjunct both our saturns (widely again); composite moon is conjunct my natal sun. Composite MC is widely conjunct his DC. That uranus on the DC is terrifying haha...
If this is even relevant the composite Sun/moon midpoint is conjunct his nn in taurus (if i even calculated the midpoint correctly). There's also some envelope looking thing - I don't know if that even counts.

There's so much saturn in synastry I'm also blind - if this turns into anything, even just as friendship its a big saturn lesson for me i feel.

Synastry:

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posted March 23, 2024 09:38 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for LilyIris07     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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posted March 24, 2024 09:34 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for LilyIris07     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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posted April 18, 2024 07:20 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for PlutoIsMyTeacher13     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Still learning so I’ve not much to add then what you can already see except the envelope is called a mystic rectangle which is dynamic but also harmonious as you can imagine.

The struggle with it, from what I understand is that the two oppositions can create a see-saw affect. It is possible to work with it but it does take self awareness and a desire to overcome the obstacles that it presents

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posted April 18, 2024 09:16 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for LilyIris07     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by PlutoIsMyTeacher13:
Still learning so I’ve not much to add then what you can already see except the envelope is called a mystic rectangle which is dynamic but also harmonious as you can imagine.

The struggle with it, from what I understand is that the two oppositions can create a see-saw affect. It is possible to work with it but it does take self awareness and a desire to overcome the obstacles that it presents


Thank you I’m actually not sure of the orb allowance because Sun/venus is wide from Neptune and Pluto, if those 6 degrees count then it is a mystic rectangle. There is also a grand trine, if the MC is counted, which in my logic it would be because of the importance of angles, also Chiron, some people don’t believe asteroids count - but Chiron is important to me because in my natal it’s in my 7th house opposite my Saturn. Then if Chiron and mc does count, there would be a kite with Neptune, Chiron, MC, and Pluto. If a larger orb allowance is reasonable then there would be another kite, sun/venus, MC, Chiron and Pluto. So there would essentially be two kites, one mystic rectangle, a grand trine… sounds like a lot, don’t even know what it means. Either way, if something romantic were to happen at some point it would be a very unconventional relationship because of the age gap

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posted April 18, 2024 11:20 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for PlutoIsMyTeacher13     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by LilyIris07:
Thank you I’m actually not sure of the orb allowance because Sun/venus is wide from Neptune and Pluto, if those 6 degrees count then it is a mystic rectangle. There is also a grand trine, if the MC is counted, which in my logic it would be because of the importance of angles, also Chiron, some people don’t believe asteroids count - but Chiron is important to me because in my natal it’s in my 7th house opposite my Saturn. Then if Chiron and mc does count, there would be a kite with Neptune, Chiron, MC, and Pluto. If a larger orb allowance is reasonable then there would be another kite, sun/venus, MC, Chiron and Pluto. So there would essentially be two kites, one mystic rectangle, a grand trine… sounds like a lot, don’t even know what it means. Either way, if something romantic were to happen at some point it would be a very unconventional relationship because of the age gap

How big is the age gap?
I think up to 10 degrees is fine for sun and moon as they are luminaries… But I’m unsure if it’s different for larger configurations of aspects like a kite or a mystic triangle.
I’ve been looking into angles a lot recently because of the tight angle conjunction in my synastry and even emailed an astrologer who’d written about the importance of tight angle conjunctions in synastry. He described it as an energy that sucks in, so is very binding. Also seen other experienced astrologers writing about using an angle as part of a grand trine, etc…
Chiron is also very important to me as it is at the very top of my chart and forms a yod, has had a very big impact on my life.
As you probably know those planets, Chiron and the MC would all be, very much, about growth and with all the Saturn aspects would definitely help you towards your purpose, I should think.
You’ve also got a moon/Venus conjunction which I have with my bf - it’s a lovely thing and can create a very loving/kind connection

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posted April 18, 2024 07:54 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for girlwiththerainysoul     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I don't recommend marriage based on the charts, but for a semi long-term relationship if you decide to have one, things can be beautiful and emotionally satisfying.

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posted April 18, 2024 08:22 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for LilyIris07     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by girlwiththerainysoul:
I don't recommend marriage based on the charts, but for a semi long-term relationship if you decide to have one, things can be beautiful and emotionally satisfying.

Thank you! Why no marriage?

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posted April 19, 2024 02:00 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for LilyIris07     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by PlutoIsMyTeacher13:
How big is the age gap?
I think up to 10 degrees is fine for sun and moon as they are luminaries… But I’m unsure if it’s different for larger configurations of aspects like a kite or a mystic triangle.
I’ve been looking into angles a lot recently because of the tight angle conjunction in my synastry and even emailed an astrologer who’d written about the importance of tight angle conjunctions in synastry. He described it as an energy that sucks in, so is very binding. Also seen other experienced astrologers writing about using an angle as part of a grand trine, etc…
Chiron is also very important to me as it is at the very top of my chart and forms a yod, has had a very big impact on my life.
As you probably know those planets, Chiron and the MC would all be, very much, about growth and with all the Saturn aspects would definitely help you towards your purpose, I should think.
You’ve also got a moon/Venus conjunction which I have with my bf - it’s a lovely thing and can create a very loving/kind connection

Honestly too big to say out loud 😂 - he’s around 20+ years older than me. Honestly the charts look like a lot of growth and transformation that I don’t know I’m ready for 😓…. He’s never been married though, although he’s had long ish term relationships - I wonder if he will be able to whether those signals for growth more than me, or less…. I’ve always been attracted to older men, but I’m suprised that there’s already more grounding to this connection. I think my Gemini planets are taking me all over the place with overthinking :/

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posted April 19, 2024 06:17 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for PlutoIsMyTeacher13     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
That is quite a big gap. Las March i ended a long term relationship that was 14 years difference. He was older. Interesting the composite was fairly good except for a Pluto square Saturn and a Neptune, Moon, Venus t square (which are both pretty big red flags I suppose!). He wanted to be in control and couldn’t accept his part in any relationship issues. Was bad news. But because of the t square involving Neptune and Venus I didn’t see him for who he really was until much later.

I find the Venus NN conjunction and Pluto Chiron conjunction interesting as well. Definitely a potential to grow but sometimes just saying no to a relationship which doesn’t offer you what you want is enough to learn that lesson and not have to repeat it!

Are you dating?

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posted April 19, 2024 06:52 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for LilyIris07     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by PlutoIsMyTeacher13:
That is quite a big gap. Las March i ended a long term relationship that was 14 years difference. He was older. Interesting the composite was fairly good except for a Pluto square Saturn and a Neptune, Moon, Venus t square (which are both pretty big red flags I suppose!). He wanted to be in control and couldn’t accept his part in any relationship issues. Was bad news. But because of the t square involving Neptune and Venus I didn’t see him for who he really was until much later.

I find the Venus NN conjunction and Pluto Chiron conjunction interesting as well. Definitely a potential to grow but sometimes just saying no to a relationship which doesn’t offer you what you want is enough to learn that lesson and not have to repeat it!

Are you dating?


Ah I see doll… I’m sorry to hear about his behavior. This is true, because I suspect that children may be off the table in general because I don’t think he wants that. At some point, not soon I really want kids… I’m not to fussed about marriage though. We are not dating… but I feel that opportunity may show itself down the line. I am just full of fear in general, when it comes to romantic relationships.

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posted April 19, 2024 07:38 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for PlutoIsMyTeacher13     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Can you post your natal? I wasn’t actually sure which one was you in the synastry…

The composite is very dynamic and oppositional isn’t it..? I can imagine that it creates an exciting energy but perhaps doesn’t feel very harmonious or stable. Perhaps that is why it is bringing up some fear. But I’d like to see your natal to see what else is there

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posted April 19, 2024 07:55 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for LilyIris07     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by PlutoIsMyTeacher13:
Can you post your natal? I wasn’t actually sure which one was you in the synastry…

The composite is very dynamic and oppositional isn’t it..? I can imagine that it creates an exciting energy but perhaps doesn’t feel very harmonious or stable. Perhaps that is why it is bringing up some fear. But I’d like to see your natal to see what else is there




Sure keep in mind, I’m sort of currently going through my Saturn return at the moment.


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posted April 19, 2024 09:57 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for LilyIris07     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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posted April 20, 2024 09:17 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for LilyIris07     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
The more I look at this composite the more red flags I see, like Jupiter/mars opposite Saturn… I know that’s supposed to be seperative. Not to mention Neptune opposite Chiron, although that is apart of a larger configuration if the orbs count - so I don’t know that means that energy may find an outlet. I noticed that vertex is conjunct Pluto by 4 degrees, and then conjunct Juno by 4 degrees if that counts. There’s, mars/jupiter conjunct in 5th, Juno/vertex conjunct in 5th (if the orb counts), and then vertex/pluto conjunct in 5th too… the vertex/juno (5th house)conjunction would be opposite the sun/venus conjunction (11th house). Although both Jupiter/mars is trine the moon - the moon is conjunct the ascendent at around 4degrees, opposite the DC too. And the NN has one aspect to Mercury which is a square - but the composite NN is clicking into both our natals in some squares/conjunctions. Pallas is also conjunct the AC… I don’t know, there seems to be some seriously strong energies but I’m not sure what they mean, is it a potential romantic liaison fused with a lot of work/triggers… or is it just friendship that is sometimes confused for romance… 🤔

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posted April 20, 2024 09:58 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for LilyIris07     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
If 2-4degrees count in midpoints and I’m doing it correctly, then the moon/juno midpoint is conjunct the NN in the composite… although it’s in the 3rd house so I don’t know if that’s particularly exciting. Also, moon/jupiter midpoint would be conjunct the NN widely by like 5 degrees.

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posted April 20, 2024 11:39 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for LilyIris07     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
The Davison of this whole thing shows an entirely different story though 🤔 I’m honestly not sure about which is better or more accurate…

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posted April 21, 2024 11:19 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for LilyIris07     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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posted April 23, 2024 10:56 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for PlutoIsMyTeacher13     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Sure keep in mind, I’m sort of currently going through my Saturn return at the moment.

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Forgot to send this last week!

Ohhh, that’s rough. You’ve also got Pluto conjunct (fading) your natal Uranus too. That’s good to be a doosie! Uranus is opposite my natal Uranus atm and Neptune is opposite my Saturn. Also Pluto on my DC. Sometimes I feel like I may implode, inner turmoil is intense!

What I can see so far are a lot of themes of independence vs stability. Needs of excitement and perhaps some push pull between wanting stability but fears around feeing stuck and wanting to move forward. A dislike of stagnation… This makes me wonder if the fear about relationships comes from a fear of being controlled/dominated..?

Ok still learning (and mainly teaching myself!) so would like to hear your thoughts.

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posted April 23, 2024 11:40 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for PlutoIsMyTeacher13     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I made some comments about the composite andDavidson on my post.

I think it’ll be difficult to know how this all plays out until you’ve bed with each other for a few months. If you are together then you can use the experience to make sense of the chart and vice versa.

And if you do decide to give it a go it’s important I think to read the reality of the situation, and who he is, to make the right choices. I had great composites in my last two relationships but there were a lot of problems. But also, you can have some difficult aspects and then not feel them in the relationship itself and be perfectly happy.

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posted April 23, 2024 08:13 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for LilyIris07     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Sure keep in mind, I’m sort of currently going through my Saturn return at the moment.

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Forgot to send this last week!

Ohhh, that’s rough. You’ve also got Pluto conjunct (fading) your natal Uranus too. That’s good to be a doosie! Uranus is opposite my natal Uranus atm and Neptune is opposite my Saturn. Also Pluto on my DC. Sometimes I feel like I may implode, inner turmoil is intense!

What I can see so far are a lot of themes of independence vs stability. Needs of excitement and perhaps some push pull between wanting stability but fears around feeing stuck and wanting to move forward. A dislike of stagnation… This makes me wonder if the fear about relationships comes from a fear of being controlled/dominated..?

Ok still learning (and mainly teaching myself!) so would like to hear your thoughts.[/B][/QUOTE]


You’re dead on about needing stability but also being fearful of stagnation. Very true… although I don’t think Pluto is conjunct Uranus? I think that’s Neptune that’s so close to Uranus.

I think you’re right about my fears but I could add about 5000 things to that.

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