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Topic: 8/12h synastry + moon/pluto and venus/chiron aspects
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nugg617 Newflake Posts: 12 From: NYC, NY, USA Registered: Apr 2024
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posted April 03, 2024 10:30 AM
i dont know much abt synastryIP: Logged |
nugg617 Newflake Posts: 12 From: NYC, NY, USA Registered: Apr 2024
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posted April 04, 2024 12:58 AM
i’ve included our composite and synastry chart (hopefully it works) IP: Logged |
ryan7863 Newflake Posts: 20 From: Registered: Mar 2024
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posted April 04, 2024 02:22 AM
woah i have the sextile with venus/chiron in the geo and helio with her. also the square in the geo also my draconic pluto exactly conjunct her geo venus and my moon in her eighth house and so much more!IP: Logged |
ryan7863 Newflake Posts: 20 From: Registered: Mar 2024
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posted April 04, 2024 02:33 AM
the draconic should tell the story. look for the aphrodite/chiron or aphrodite/juno connection in the draconic synastry. thats going to tell you if this was meant to be. aphrodite is representative of romantic sex and palpable sudden attraction. i think the aphrodite connections are the twin flame markers if you notice a trend between the geo helio and draconic charts with it. her draconic aphrodite is exactly sextile my pluto! my astarte (venus) and aphrodite are conjunct her chiron between our draconic charts!IP: Logged |
nugg617 Newflake Posts: 12 From: NYC, NY, USA Registered: Apr 2024
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posted April 04, 2024 04:08 AM
quote: Originally posted by ryan7863: the draconic should tell the story. look for the aphrodite/chiron or aphrodite/juno connection in the draconic synastry. thats going to tell you if this was meant to be. aphrodite is representative of romantic sex and palpable sudden attraction. i think the aphrodite connections are the twin flame markers if you notice a trend between the geo helio and draconic charts with it. her draconic aphrodite is exactly sextile my pluto! my astarte (venus) and aphrodite are conjunct her chiron between our draconic charts!
i dont know much about dranconic charts and asteroids in general IP: Logged |
nugg617 Newflake Posts: 12 From: NYC, NY, USA Registered: Apr 2024
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posted April 04, 2024 03:23 PM
quote: Originally posted by nugg617: so i just checked our draconic charts - his aphrodite squares my chiron, juno quintiles my venus, and his juno also sextiles my chiron. my juno sextiles his moon, chiron sextiles his juno, and my aphrodite also trines his jupiter. i dont know much about dranconic charts and asteroids in general, what do you think of this?
my persephone also trines his pluto, and my union sextiles his venus, which is interesting.
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ryan7863 Newflake Posts: 20 From: Registered: Mar 2024
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posted April 04, 2024 03:23 PM
this is a very good signature, especially the aphrodite/chiron square. although this aspects brings strong incompatibility there is also lifelong attraction and romance. the sextiles sweeten that heavy square and make it all the more worthwhile to stick around anyway and to compromise. IP: Logged |
nugg617 Newflake Posts: 12 From: NYC, NY, USA Registered: Apr 2024
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posted April 04, 2024 03:24 PM
quote: Originally posted by ryan7863: this is a very good signature, especially the aphrodite/chiron square. although this aspects brings strong incompatibility there is also lifelong attraction and romance. the sextiles sweeten that heavy square and make it all the more worthwhile to stick around anyway and to compromise.
lol we ended up posting at exactly the same time - thank you!!! IP: Logged |
ryan7863 Newflake Posts: 20 From: Registered: Mar 2024
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posted April 04, 2024 03:25 PM
very heavy signals that this is an important relationship for you, may just be lifelong.IP: Logged |
nugg617 Newflake Posts: 12 From: NYC, NY, USA Registered: Apr 2024
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posted April 04, 2024 07:38 PM
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ryan7863 Newflake Posts: 20 From: Registered: Mar 2024
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posted April 05, 2024 12:17 AM
its not going to be easy. venus or aphrodite square chiron is never easy, magi society has a list of famous couples with this square. im going through the exact aspect right now with this girl and im the chiron hahaIP: Logged |
ryan7863 Newflake Posts: 20 From: Registered: Mar 2024
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posted April 05, 2024 12:21 AM
it can be both, especially if there is some easy saturn thrown in, but not too much if you two are not very saturnian to begin with then that could be much more difficult but also possible to get through with all these other wonderful aspects.IP: Logged |
mee_chryssa Knowflake Posts: 1192 From: Romania Registered: Jun 2020
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posted April 05, 2024 05:00 AM
I can't believe you all are missing the point here... his mars in scorpio is opposite her Venus/Moon in Taurus :| and her Moon/Venus are on his ASC :|get real people with your asteroids and draconic and all the BS IP: Logged |
ryan7863 Newflake Posts: 20 From: Registered: Mar 2024
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posted April 05, 2024 12:07 PM
loll what! all that does is instill some sexual passion which is great but thats about it.the aspects mentioned above are of greater significance in relation to high sexual and romantic compatibility. mars or eros/venus or aphrodite or ishtar are so much better for lifelong sexual heat. although pluto-venus suggests more depth and purpose, and mars pluto creates more ecstatic sex. IP: Logged |
ryan7863 Newflake Posts: 20 From: Registered: Mar 2024
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posted April 05, 2024 12:09 PM
draconic is not at all bs by the way, simmer down. https://elstas.com/2024/01/10/draconic-astrology-the-synastry-of-the-soul/IP: Logged |
ryan7863 Newflake Posts: 20 From: Registered: Mar 2024
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posted April 05, 2024 12:42 PM
the moon and venus are far from the ascendant still anyway imoIP: Logged |
nugg617 Newflake Posts: 12 From: NYC, NY, USA Registered: Apr 2024
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posted April 05, 2024 02:58 PM
haha i said i don’t know much about asteroids or synastry! you mentioned those aspects, does that indicate negative to you? IP: Logged |
ryan7863 Newflake Posts: 20 From: Registered: Mar 2024
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posted April 05, 2024 04:53 PM
i believe in the notion that asteroids contain major significance in the natal chart and in synastry analysis because there is just an overwhelming amount of success. for example, magi astrology demonstrates a highly persuasive case for venus or aphrodite/chiron or juno. Also if you read IQhunks position on the karma asteroid i also find that to be very telling. and also personally theyve been very successful.IP: Logged |
mee_chryssa Knowflake Posts: 1192 From: Romania Registered: Jun 2020
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posted April 06, 2024 08:46 AM
quote: Originally posted by nugg617: haha i specifically said i don’t know much about asteroids! or synastry in general! which is why i made this post! you mentioned those aspects but didn’t really elaborate, does that indicate negative to you? all i’ve heard about mars/moon&venus connections is that it causes a lot of sexual tension. asc/venus&moon as well i’ve heard causes strong attraction, but other than that i dont know. i’d love to hear more!
You share Sun/Moon/ASC conjunction or oppositions to the closest people in your life. The ones that you live with, you family, your close friends, your partner. You felt u knew him from the second you met him because of your Moon in his ASC sign. That's how close these aspects are. All the married people have these connections. But it doesn't just resume to these. You read the chart from the top to bottom. Sun/Moon/ASC represent the soul, the state in which the conciousness (Sun) is, unconscious (Moon) is, body (ASC). They are the most important parts of us. To check the state in which that part of us is, you check the dignity, aspects, where it's placed and what other houses it rules. The personal planets - from Sun to Mars - are parts of us. Unless the ASC rules Jupiter or Saturn. in small lines... Mars (from a mans chart)in conjunction or opposition to woman's planets Venus/Moon have a very very very strong attraction. It's right on point, they fit physically very well. They understand each other without explaining, and you don't have to think if it's going to be good when you are sleeping together because it's going to be great. The side effect to this, if there are no other long term aspects, it's that is going to be just an affair. On-off relationships, or just one night. Moon/Venus in his ASC sign - because the orb it's a bit high, but it's still in the same sign - and a great thing is that it's your Moon, and not his - is that it's going to be more than just a fling... Your going to feel safe with him, he will lead the relationship and you just get each on the soul level... without connections on Sun/Moon/ASC with the right gender/planet, it's not going to last, and without compatibility on the 7th house which means that what yor 7th house is, should be reflected somehow in his natal chart and what he has on his Venus and 7th house, should be reflected in your natal chart. or you representing in life what it is in his natal chart. Moon/Venus/ASC and ruler are more used in our lives as women... we use Sun/Mars very rarely and it could lead to some problems on long term. Men use more Sun/Mars and if they get into their Venus/Moon, it could lead to disfunctionlities long term. I mentioned these because it matters in synastry more than in natal chart analysis. Although even in natal chart, we project these qualities on our opposite gender. IP: Logged |
ryan7863 Newflake Posts: 20 From: Registered: Mar 2024
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posted April 06, 2024 03:37 PM
i feel like the personal planets give an interesting foundation! that said, i would have to suggest that the asteroids really convey the finer notions of compatibility or incompatibility. Not that incompatibility isn't what you should look for! You should look for aspects like tight squares tight oppositions because these provide the individuals with greater excitement and wonder, obviously more and more ease is not always great! the squares and oppositions act as a sort of yin yang WHEN there are also subtle influences like tight sextiles or trines that provide enough of an influence to weather the occasional storm.IP: Logged |
nugg617 Newflake Posts: 12 From: NYC, NY, USA Registered: Apr 2024
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posted April 07, 2024 12:41 AM
quote: Originally posted by mee_chryssa: You share Sun/Moon/ASC conjunction or oppositions to the closest people in your life. The ones that you live with, you family, your close friends, your partner. You felt u knew him from the second you met him because of your Moon in his ASC sign. That's how close these aspects are. All the married people have these connections. But it doesn't just resume to these.You read the chart from the top to bottom. Sun/Moon/ASC represent the soul, the state in which the conciousness (Sun) is, unconscious (Moon) is, body (ASC). They are the most important parts of us. To check the state in which that part of us is, you check the dignity, aspects, where it's placed and what other houses it rules. The personal planets - from Sun to Mars - are parts of us. Unless the ASC rules Jupiter or Saturn. in small lines... Mars (from a mans chart)in conjunction or opposition to woman's planets Venus/Moon have a very very very strong attraction. It's right on point, they fit physically very well. They understand each other without explaining, and you don't have to think if it's going to be good when you are sleeping together because it's going to be great. The side effect to this, if there are no other long term aspects, it's that is going to be just an affair. On-off relationships, or just one night. Moon/Venus in his ASC sign - because the orb it's a bit high, but it's still in the same sign - and a great thing is that it's your Moon, and not his - is that it's going to be more than just a fling... Your going to feel safe with him, he will lead the relationship and you just get each on the soul level... without connections on Sun/Moon/ASC with the right gender/planet, it's not going to last, and without compatibility on the 7th house which means that what yor 7th house is, should be reflected somehow in his natal chart and what he has on his Venus and 7th house, should be reflected in your natal chart. or you representing in life what it is in his natal chart. Moon/Venus/ASC and ruler are more used in our lives as women... we use Sun/Mars very rarely and it could lead to some problems on long term. Men use more Sun/Mars and if they get into their Venus/Moon, it could lead to disfunctionlities long term. I mentioned these because it matters in synastry more than in natal chart analysis. Although even in natal chart, we project these qualities on our opposite gender.
thank you so much for such a detailed explanation!!! it definitely resonates IP: Logged |