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LilyIris07
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posted June 08, 2025 08:10 AM
  
So here I am again writing about my dead love life... but recently I am having slightly deeper "feelings" for someone and I am a bit confused - we have a very beautiful and deep friendship, with a lot of warmth and caring. We have been friends for around two years and now as our friendship deepens, I think my feelings are getting confused. I can see by the synastry why there would perhaps be a spark for more - but the composite looks terrifying, keep in mind we are in AA together, and we have a lot of deep conversations and things like that... There is sort of an intimacy and sometimes there's a curiosity of wanting to bridge it - and i do feel like perhaps we are walking together in terms of our healing, although he can be a little bit behind sometimes. but this composite is like eish, perhaps its a bad idea for more. the conjunctions are nice but in the 12th house, gosh... explains the spiritual soul matey type of bond, but not always romantic, but then theres like pluto, mars and nn in the 7th which is very widely conjunct pluto... but saturn is doing some ****** things to jupiter, which sucks because that usually means seperation at some point, and those neptune squares... what do you guys think? mutual? possible? or completely bad idea... i am not ready to pass friendship for now but sometimes im like hmmm.... synastry:
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posted June 09, 2025 05:01 PM
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LilyIris07
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posted June 11, 2025 01:59 AM
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posted June 11, 2025 01:59 AM
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Belage2
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posted June 11, 2025 03:23 PM
I don't do composite, so I will just look at natal, transit and synastry. YOUR CONFUSION: You are confused about developing feelings for him after 2 years of deep friendship. Well, this is actually quite common, and is the reason why many people don't believe people of the opposing sex (if they are hetero), or of the same sex (if they are gay), can have deep friendships for long without someone inevitably catching feelings. That being said... TRANSITS: Today's full moon in Sagg falls in your 7th house and highlights it. So in theory, you should have or you will soon have more clarity about your relationship prospects with this person. SYNASTRY: -I see Saturnian ties, with his Saturn conjunct your Venus in Pisces. That cohabitation can be binding, but it is not exactly something a Piscean Venus would enjoy, though it might certainly help with sobriety, since you mentioned AA. -Of course, you are aware that his Neptune in Cap tightly squares your Moon in Aries, which is a red flag indicating someone is going to be delusional or misled. While his Mars in Leo (he is going through a Mars return right now) makes a nice trine to your Aries Moon, which does indicate some possible sexual attraction. So your moon is caught in a mixed bag here. - His Jupiter falls on the cusp of your 7th, activating it, and making him look like a great potential partner. You already have Neptune in 7th, so if you are not careful you can over romanticise partners and partnership/marriage. But your Neptune in 7th can also indicate that you need to have some kind of spiritual connection with your partner, so 12th house contacts would actually be a welcome element. Jupiter/Neptune conjunction in your 7th. Kind of nice... You 2 also have a lovely Jupiter/Saturn trine, which is always a positive support for relationships. I can see what's in it for you. But I am not really able to see what's in it for him...I am not good at looking at Synastry wheels with superimposed charts. I am just looking at the grid and I don't see his ascendant. Can you clarify what is his ascendant?
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LilyIris07
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posted June 12, 2025 01:10 AM
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Originally posted by Belage2:
I don't do composite, so I will just look at natal, transit and synastry. YOUR CONFUSION: You are confused about developing feelings for him after 2 years of deep friendship. Well, this is actually quite common, and is the reason why many people don't believe people of the opposing sex (if they are hetero), or of the same sex (if they are gay), can have deep friendships for long without someone inevitably catching feelings. That being said... TRANSITS: Today's full moon in Sagg falls in your 7th house and highlights it. So in theory, you should have or you will soon have more clarity about your relationship prospects with this person. SYNASTRY: -I see Saturnian ties, with his Saturn conjunct your Venus in Pisces. That cohabitation can be binding, but it is not exactly something a Piscean Venus would enjoy, though it might certainly help with sobriety, since you mentioned AA. -Of course, you are aware that his Neptune in Cap tightly squares your Moon in Aries, which is a red flag indicating someone is going to be delusional or misled. While his Mars in Leo (he is going through a Mars return right now) makes a nice trine to your Aries Moon, which does indicate some possible sexual attraction. So your moon is caught in a mixed bag here. - His Jupiter falls on the cusp of your 7th, activating it, and making him look like a great potential partner. You already have Neptune in 7th, so if you are not careful you can over romanticise partners and partnership/marriage. But your Neptune in 7th can also indicate that you need to have some kind of spiritual connection with your partner, so 12th house contacts would actually be a welcome element. Jupiter/Neptune conjunction in your 7th. Kind of nice... You 2 also have a lovely Jupiter/Saturn trine, which is always a positive support for relationships. I can see what's in it for you. But I am not really able to see what's in it for him...I am not good at looking at Synastry wheels with superimposed charts. I am just looking at the grid and I don't see his ascendant. Can you clarify what is his ascendant?
Thank you! It sounds pretty accurate - so actually I’m the Pisces Ascendent/Gemini Sun, and he’s the Gemini Ascendent/Aquarius Sun - so it’s my Saturn on his Pisces Venus, and his Mars in Capricorn Squares his Moon in late Aries. It’s also my Jupiter conjunct his Descendent - I think it inspires commitment within him. This probably doesn’t count but there’s a Moon/Venus DW, in wide orb. I shall add the table here, I hope it helps. 
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Belage2
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posted June 12, 2025 04:44 PM
Wow, so you are Pisces ascendant and he is the one who is Gemini ascendant with recent full moon illuminated 7th house! So funny!Well, whatever I said about you applies to him! He should be the one trying to find out what is going on in the relationship, not you, lol! As for you, the full moon is falling in your house of career. I don't see that he has planets in your 7th house, so I am not sure what's in it for you! He doesn't have planets in your 7th house, other than Chiron. I don't see his planets in your 5th house of love affairs. I really don't know what to tell you. Maybe someone else has better insight! IP: Logged |
LilyIris07
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posted June 12, 2025 10:34 PM
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Originally posted by Belage2:
Wow, so you are Pisces ascendant and he is the one who is Gemini ascendant with recent full moon illuminated 7th house! So funny!Well, whatever I said about you applies to him! He should be the one trying to find out what is going on in the relationship, not you, lol! As for you, the full moon is falling in your house of career. I don't see that he has planets in your 7th house, so I am not sure what's in it for you! He doesn't have planets in your 7th house, other than Chiron. I don't see his planets in your 5th house of love affairs. I really don't know what to tell you. Maybe someone else has better insight!
Well… I have strong feelings for him, so yeah… it’s also possible my birth time isn’t 100%, the placements I think are but the housing perhaps not. But this is also why I think the composite is important, because we are almost two years in, I think it’s probably starting to play out… moon/Venus in composite conjunct, the sun/mercury would be widely conjunct my natal moon. The AC/DC would be on his natal Moon… composite NN/Pluto is on my natal NN… 5th house vertex would be conjunct my natal Chiron…. Although judging that my time of birth may be slightly off it could change the houses you know. But right now I’m feeling very caught up… and like it’s fated.
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LilyIris07
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posted June 14, 2025 06:22 PM
Well we’re together so definitely more haha IP: Logged |
Belage2
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posted June 14, 2025 07:29 PM
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Originally posted by LilyIris07:
Well we’re together so definitely more haha
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LilyIris07
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posted June 14, 2025 07:46 PM
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Originally posted by Belage2:
[QUOTE]Originally posted by LilyIris07:
[b]Well we’re together so definitely more haha
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Belage2
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posted June 14, 2025 09:46 PM
Congratulations! Wishing you both the best!  IP: Logged |
LilyIris07
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posted June 18, 2025 12:52 AM
Thank you! Well, there is still some hesitation, it’s more like we are working towards being a couple, as there’s still some unsureness. Also, the Jupiter/Saturn square is worrying - composite Jupiter is conjunct my natal ascendent, composite Saturn is conjunct my natal sun and IC, and also square my natal Saturn. So there is a lot of push and pull for me, composite Pluto is also conjunct my natal north node. The composite sun is also conjunct my natal moon (some of these depends on the orbs used). For him, the composite AC/DC axis is bc conjunct his natal moon (his natal moon is in a tough position, conjunct Chiron, square both mars and sun). His natal NN would also be widely conjunct the composite AC/DC and north node. Also composite Uranus is conjunct his natal Neptune, can’t imagine how that goes well. So there’s all of that, and I feel like that is all very hard on our individual charts, the Saturn/jupiter square is slightly mitigated by the Saturn/jupiter midpoint being conjunct venus, so that could make it slightly better. Also, the Saturn/venus midpoint is conjunct mars. So, there are some very heavy things but also some things that show it could be very committed and loving… but I’m already feeling stifled, and like I would need to be sacrificing a lot. IP: Logged |
LilyIris07
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posted June 21, 2025 09:09 AM
Welp, nevermind - he’s not fully attracted to me apparently. IP: Logged |
ChildofVenus
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posted June 21, 2025 06:07 PM
All those planets in the 12th house in the composite chart would be a red flag for me.IP: Logged |
LilyIris07
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posted June 22, 2025 12:58 AM
Yes, I do think the 12th house activation is adding a lot of fogginess. We are both confused and trying to figure stuff out, there’s a bit of back and forth. I’ve had a couple composites with 12th house stuff though, I’m not sure why that always happens to me considering I have no planets in the 12th. IP: Logged |
Belage2
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posted June 22, 2025 04:42 PM
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Originally posted by LilyIris07:
Welp, nevermind - he’s not fully attracted to me apparently.
 ... Sorry to hear that. Your Saturn sitting on his dreamy Pisciean Venus is not exactly a sexy aspect. While Saturn may be fascinated by Venus because she represents beauty and love, Venus may not be so enthranced by old man Saturn, especially in an anti Saturn sign like Pisces. That particular conjunction works beautifully in Saturn ruled signs like Aquarius and Capricorn, but in Pisces, it is very challenging. However, you do have Neptune, a ruler of Pisces, sextile his Venus and your Saturn conjunction, so that could favorably mitigates things and bring some dreamy, Neptunian qualities to the conjunction. Unfortunately, same Neptune also squares his moon. yuck!! (I keep editing this post, aarrgh! )
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Belage2
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posted June 22, 2025 04:57 PM
(Continued)I just remembered, you are Pisces rising! So his Venus in your 1st house or on your ascendant should be peachy! It's just your Saturn that makes you feel insecure about your appearance and attractiveness level and he is picking up on that. Saturn in 1st house has a way of doing that...  Regardless of this guy and what he is going to do, you need to start using your Capricorn Neptune sextile Saturn to make yourself look and feel more Piscean. Visualizations and affirmations on beauty should work wonderfully for you. (from a Pisces rising to another! ) IP: Logged |
LilyIris07
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posted July 01, 2025 11:26 PM
Thank you for your response doll! Honestly I’m not really worried about my appearance, I’m obviously more attractive than him - but you know what the issues are? The typical male, him having an ego, him not being fully ready or understanding what a real relationship takes - basically immaturity and that typical thing of wanting validation from others. You know, he’s still in that stage of not being able to fully reciprocate, nor be fully mature in his responses and actions. I think it has very little to do with me and all to do with him. He either grows up or he doesn’t care you know 🤷♀️ IP: Logged |
Belage2
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posted July 02, 2025 12:14 PM
Thanks for updating us. I see what you mean, and I hope things work out for you either way! IP: Logged | |
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