posted August 11, 2025 05:03 AM            

Is that still the general thinking around here?

And do natal charts matter?

For example, I have Sun/Moon/Venus/Mars/Mercury (chart ruler) in the 12th natal, with all those planets + Jupiter Trine Neptune. She has Mars (chart ruler) and Uranus in Pisces in the 12th, with Moon Square Neptune, Sun/Venus/Saturn Quincunx Neptune (part of a yod with Neptune as the apex), and Mercury Sesquiquadrate Neptune. So we are both very Neptunian.

Are 12th house composite planets easier to handle / more desirable for 12th House/Neptune people? And in this case, we both have Mars in the 12th, so the energy shouldn’t be totally unfamiliar. My thinking is we need proactively open and honest communication to prevent repressed anger/resentment and passive aggression. I’m hoping that our Love Stellium in the 3rd house will help with that, and that c.Mars Trine c.Moon will soften things.

I’ve seen some people say they run away from 12th house synastry. But in my case, I know I am strongly drawn towards these relationships.

In this case, she also puts her Sun/Venus/Jupiter in my 12th. And I love the way it feels.

Am I headed for disaster?

posted October 07, 2025 03:58 PM            

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Originally posted by SuperVirgo:
There are some old threads from years ago on this placement, where some doomers were pretty adamant that c.Mars in the 12th is absolutely horrible and only bad can come from it.

Is that still the general thinking around here?

And do natal charts matter?

For example, I have Sun/Moon/Venus/Mars/Mercury (chart ruler) in the 12th natal, with all those planets + Jupiter Trine Neptune. She has Mars (chart ruler) and Uranus in Pisces in the 12th, with Moon Square Neptune, Sun/Venus/Saturn Quincunx Neptune (part of a yod with Neptune as the apex), and Mercury Sesquiquadrate Neptune. So we are both very Neptunian.

Are 12th house composite planets easier to handle / more desirable for 12th House/Neptune people? And in this case, we both have Mars in the 12th, so the energy shouldn’t be totally unfamiliar. My thinking is we need proactively open and honest communication to prevent repressed anger/resentment and passive aggression. I’m hoping that our Love Stellium in the 3rd house will help with that, and that c.Mars Trine c.Moon will soften things.

I’ve seen some people say they run away from 12th house synastry. But in my case, I know I am strongly drawn towards these relationships.

In this case, she also puts her Sun/Venus/Jupiter in my 12th. And I love the way it feels.

Am I headed for disaster?

EDIT: Composite Mars is also the only planet that contains the “+ opp. house” notation on Astro.com, ostensibly because we have Mars Opposite Mars in the synastry. So I guess that means it could be read as c.Mars in the 6th house? We’re also Big Virgo/Big Mercury and Big Virgo/6th house people…

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Can you post your natal and the composite please? I need a visual!

This is such an interesting topic. I think it’s kinda fun for people to see the 12th house as scary… Honestly, I think it’s a load of BS ;-) but I can understand where the idea comes from.

Have you watched Galactic Mystic’s videos on YouTube? She does one on the composite sun through the houses and another on the signs. They are pretty spot on.

My partner has his Venus conjunct Saturn in the 12th house and his Mars in Pisces. He has loads of Neptune and so do I though he has softer aspects and I have sun square Neptune as one of my strongest aspects but I have moon and mars in Scorpio in the 4th so am very watery.

Our composite has sun and Venus conjunct in cancer in the 12th and Jupiter there too but no major aspects. Our Mars is in the 6th in Capricorn. Moon is in Virgo in the 3rd sextiling sun and Venus and trining Mars

My experience is that our relationship is incredibly loving and romantic. It feels like an unconditional love. We care deeply about each other and work things out very quickly and easily. Interestingly we also have a very Plutonian composite but with some easy aspects to Pluto which help soften it. There has been oodles of transformation for both of us but we are very committed to the work.

posted October 07, 2025 05:05 PM            

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Originally posted by SuperVirgo:
There are some old threads from years ago on this placement, where some doomers were pretty adamant that c.Mars in the 12th is absolutely horrible and only bad can come from it.

Is that still the general thinking around here?

And do natal charts matter?

For example, I have Sun/Moon/Venus/Mars/Mercury (chart ruler) in the 12th natal, with all those planets + Jupiter Trine Neptune. She has Mars (chart ruler) and Uranus in Pisces in the 12th, with Moon Square Neptune, Sun/Venus/Saturn Quincunx Neptune (part of a yod with Neptune as the apex), and Mercury Sesquiquadrate Neptune. So we are both very Neptunian.

Are 12th house composite planets easier to handle / more desirable for 12th House/Neptune people? And in this case, we both have Mars in the 12th, so the energy shouldn’t be totally unfamiliar. My thinking is we need proactively open and honest communication to prevent repressed anger/resentment and passive aggression. I’m hoping that our Love Stellium in the 3rd house will help with that, and that c.Mars Trine c.Moon will soften things.

I’ve seen some people say they run away from 12th house synastry. But in my case, I know I am strongly drawn towards these relationships.

In this case, she also puts her Sun/Venus/Jupiter in my 12th. And I love the way it feels.

Am I headed for disaster?

EDIT: Composite Mars is also the only planet that contains the “+ opp. house” notation on Astro.com, ostensibly because we have Mars Opposite Mars in the synastry. So I guess that means it could be read as c.Mars in the 6th house? We’re also Big Virgo/Big Mercury and Big Virgo/6th house people…

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Can you post your natal and the composite please? I need a visual!

This is such an interesting topic. I think it’s kinda fun for people to see the 12th house as scary… Honestly, I think it’s a load of BS ;-) but I can understand where the idea comes from.

Have you watched Galactic Mystic’s videos on YouTube? She does one on the composite sun through the houses and another on the signs. They are pretty spot on.

My partner has his Venus conjunct Saturn in the 12th house and his Mars in Pisces. He has loads of Neptune and so do I though he has softer aspects and I have sun square Neptune as one of my strongest aspects but I have moon and mars in Scorpio in the 4th so am very watery.

Our composite has sun and Venus conjunct in cancer in the 12th and Jupiter there too but no major aspects. Our Mars is in the 6th in Capricorn. Moon is in Virgo in the 3rd sextiling sun and Venus and trining Mars

My experience is that our relationship is incredibly loving and romantic. It feels like an unconditional love. We care deeply about each other and work things out very quickly and easily. Interestingly we also have a very Plutonian composite but with some easy aspects to Pluto which help soften it. There has been oodles of transformation for both of us but we are very committed to the work.