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93nov
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posted January 25, 2026 06:55 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for 93nov     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Good morning, everyone.

Transit Pluto is halfway through its square to my Venus (3/5 passes) and I feel like I've been speed dating since 2024.

Mars is also conjunct my NN 7H natal so relationships are naturally a part of my life journey anyway so.. here's another one:

I've known and have been distant friends with this guy since high school. We never dated, slept together or even kissed. We exchanged a few words and a few books through the years, but never actually connected fully or took things further. Definitely a slow burn type thing.

We recently reconnected a few months ago and admitted we both feel like we have unfinished business. But there seems to be another roadblock. Something about the way we're coming off is rubbing each other the wrong way at different times. It's like a strange attraction/ compulsion. Mostly attraction on my end. I can't really read him fully because we haven't met up yet. It's been years since I seen him.

Any thoughts based on the charts?

Here's a few key things I noticed:

My moon is almost completely unaspected and his Sun is almost completely unaspected in our synastry, but the interesting part is, our natals kind of reflect that?

His Sun/Moon is in his 12H. His IC ruler is Uranus. My moon is square uranus/neptune, trine Saturn. No warm, close inner aspects. My 12H ruler is Mars which is right on my 7H cusp.


**Midpoints conjunct.**

His Sun/Moon midpoint conjuncts my Moon less than 1 degree.

My Venus/mars midpoint conjunct his Venus.

His mars trines my mars/NN conjunction.

His ASC-Moon- merc conjunction is conjunct my merc-Venus conjunction.

My 7H ruler and his chart ruler are conjunct (1 degree).
7H rulers loosely conjunct.

Composite sun conjuncts his moon (1 degree)
composite moon conjuncts my Vertex exact.
Composite ASC conjuncts his Saturn/Uranus midpoint and IC (loosely).

🚩🚩🚩🚩🚩

His Uranus squares my Moon (exact)
Poorly aspected Moon.
Poorly aspected Sun.
Poorly aspected Mars.


I FEEL the connection, but I also feel the disconnect too. I just want to know if this relationship would be worth pursuing ASTROLOGY WISE or are we still going to be in our 60s playing this same cat and mouse game at the nursing home.


All birth times are 100% accurate based on birth certificates.

MY NATAL:

HIS NATAL:

SYNASTRY:


COMPOSITE:

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Randall
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posted January 26, 2026 04:53 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Randall     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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girlwiththerainysoul
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posted January 26, 2026 08:32 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for girlwiththerainysoul     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
His Jupiter is square to your Saturn. My advice would be don't waste your time. Jupiter rarely likes being suppressed by Saturn.

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93nov
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posted January 26, 2026 11:21 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for 93nov     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Sheesh, you came to that conclusion just off that one aspect? (:

His Saturn also trines my Jupiter.

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posted January 27, 2026 01:35 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Belage2     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Wow, lots of shared planets and contacts in Scorpio...

With Mars and Pluto the rulers of your 7th house and sitting on the cusp of your 7th house natally, you seek out very intense transformative relationships. So you are thriving on those shared Scorpio contacts, even if they are falling in your 6th house, which is not exactly where romantic relationships happen.

You two have opposite ascendants, which is always an attractive factor and a marker of compatibility as you can be complementary partners.

On the not so good side, neither of you have planets in the other's 7th house or 8th houses of partnership and sex. Your Sun conjunction to his Venus might offset some of that because Venus is the ruler of his 7th.

Still, if you decide to continue with this relationship, the current and upcoming transit of Pluto in Aquarius which is going to square all those Scorpio planets and contacts one by one is going to be a really rough ride for this relationship.

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93nov
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posted January 28, 2026 11:45 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for 93nov     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Thank you so much for your reply, Belage2.

Transit Pluto is definitely making its way through our Composite stellium. I wonder if it matters if we're already both Plutonic natally and going through the same transits.

Pluto just completed its 3rd pass out 5 on my chart ruler (Venus) and the only thing intense are the brief relationships I've been experiencing for one reason or another. But I've known this CURRENT interest for almost two decades now so that description doesn't really apply here.


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posted January 28, 2026 12:40 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for girlwiththerainysoul     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by 93nov:
Sheesh, you came to that conclusion just off that one aspect? (:

His Saturn also trines my Jupiter.


The trine won't cancel the square. I don't think that's how astrology aspects work.

Yes, the Saturn/Jupiter clash alone can be a deal-breaker, there's plenty of studies online, and that's the very first thing I check for in a potential synastry. I've never seen it in the chart of people who are in love, and I've seen hundreds of relationship charts. Why else would you and him still be playing the cat and mouse game after two decades in your own words? If you ask me that's all for the best. But the Scorpio's obsessive side might have a hard time letting go.

Perhaps the real dilemma here is you asking yourself if you really want to keep ruminating on something high risk with that Jupiter/Saturn clash.

Check out this link (the Magi Society carry out intensive research before making statements):

http://magihelena.com/astrology-lesson-clashes-captivations/

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posted January 29, 2026 11:19 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for 93nov     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I appreciate your input and will definitely take it into consideration for sure.

I just don't think this aspect will kill an entire synastry.

& I know for sure the trine doesn't cancel out the square, BUT it does add more to the picture and IS a double-whammy.

& I'm not ruminating on anything. To be fair, we're kind of meeting each other for the first time again considering how long its been and we didn't maintain contact for the most part.

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posted January 29, 2026 02:10 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Belage2     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by 93nov:
Thank you so much for your reply, Belage2.

Transit Pluto is definitely making its way through our Composite stellium. I wonder if it matters if we're already both Plutonic natally and going through the same transits.

Pluto just completed its 3rd pass out 5 on my chart ruler (Venus) and the only thing intense are the brief relationships I've been experiencing for one reason or another. But I've known this CURRENT interest for almost two decades now so that description doesn't really apply here.


It is a valid question and I have thought about it. I think the two of you already being very plutonic may understand and handle these Pluto transits better than other signs on the conditions that you are both ready to release the dead weight Pluto urges you to release in hard transits.

In your case, you will have transit pluto in the house of career, so that might signify that there will be things in your job or career that create serious issues for the two of you and also affect your health and everyday work, since your Scorpio planets being squared are in your 6th house.

And in the case of your partner, having transit Pluto in the 4th house, that may indicate he has to do lots of work dealing with childhood issues or mother issues, and I would look at his first house, his physical body and appearance, the way he presents himself to the world, as the battlefields where these issues will be felt.

But of course, keep in mind, this is all conjecture.

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posted January 29, 2026 03:33 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for 93nov     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Haha, you hit it right on the head, Belage. I have definitely been stuck in a 'transitional' phase when it comes to my career and life in general (public image/ daily routines im assuming) and me and this guy's conversations HAVE been centered around his mommy issues in a way. He lost his mother at 14 years old. I think he still struggles with her approval (as odd as that sounds), which is actually part of the reason we haven't really defined our connection.. or took it further up until this point.


Men are usually attracted to women who resemble their mothers and I don't fit the description AT ALL although he still finds me very attractive. I can tell he struggles with this a great deal. Even today as an adult. You can tell he wants to broaden his horizons, but his 4H Saturn is forcing him to uphold the status quo when it comes to his roots. We've discussed this deeper recently and actually made some progress this time around. He actually believes there is no issue, but I see it clear as day. I'm assuming his mother and even father struggled with self-esteem issues in certain spots and drilled a certain mentality into their children. He might be frozen in time in terms of emotional and psychological growth due to the trauma. Pretty heavy stuff (thanks Pluto (: ).

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posted January 29, 2026 05:27 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for girlwiththerainysoul     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by 93nov:

& I know for sure the trine doesn't cancel out the square, BUT it does add more to the picture and IS a double-whammy.

& I'm not ruminating on anything. To be fair, we're kind of meeting each other for the first time again considering how long its been and we didn't maintain contact for the most part.


If anything, the double-whammy trine would actually put the Saturn/Jupiter clash more at the center, and felt deeper and more intensely, hence the feeling you describe in your OP: 👇

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Originally posted by 93nov:
But there seems to be another roadblock. Something about the way we're coming off is rubbing each other the wrong way at different times.

I'd say those Scorpio planets in your chart might be reading too much into what he's communicating to you online. And with his current Jupiter/Venus trine, you may not be the only woman he's talking to. Loyalty is vital to Scorpio, so you may need to make sure you're not being deceived.

The composite shows some promise with Sun trine Saturn, but again there're a Jupiter/Saturn aspect in the composite which could make falling in love hard.

The composite isn't passionate, with a lack of Sun, moon or venus aspects to Pluto. But with his AC conjunct your Venus, he may feel entitled to your affection which has the risk of ending up being taken granted for.


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Originally posted by 93nov:

Men are usually attracted to women who resemble their mothers and I don't fit the description AT ALL although he still finds me very attractive. I can tell he struggles with this a great deal. Even today as an adult. You can tell he wants to broaden his horizons, but his 4H Saturn is forcing him to uphold the status quo when it comes to his roots. We've discussed this deeper recently and actually made some progress this time around. He actually believes there is no issue, but I see it clear as day. I'm assuming his mother and even father struggled with self-esteem issues in certain spots and drilled a certain mentality into their children. He might be frozen in time in terms of emotional and psychological growth due to the trauma. Pretty heavy stuff (thanks Pluto (: ).


To be quite frank reading between the lines on your replies to Belage and myself, the optimism you show regarding this "potential" relationship is a direct manifestation of that composite moon square neptune, which as the female (moon/venus in the composite) in this potential relationship you'd have to watch out for not making up excuses for his lack of effort or interest. If he uses things like the loss of his mother for a lack of confidence or emotional openness and affection, that could be a manifestation of the apathetic composite with Sun trine Saturn and Mars inconjucnt Saturn (both showing the struggle to bring forth the male energy into the relationship).

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posted January 29, 2026 07:42 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for 93nov     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Girlwiththerainysoul,

- Actually it's been me who has been hesitant and giving him the cold shoulder up until this point. We attended a few college parties together and hung out, but that was over a decade ago back in High School/ College. & he made it clear each time he was interested. I have always been skeptical because of the whole mommy issue trope. This is why I previously stated he doesn't seen an issue, but I do.

Transit Pluto completed just another pass over his ASC-moon conjunction too so if anything, I am the catalyst for broadening his horizons I think. Especially with his 9H being rules by his moon.

- How is the Saturn-Jupiter square at the center when the double whammy forms a wide trine in composite?

- The lack of Pluto aspects in composite shouldn't really be an issue, I'm assuming, considering all those planets in Scorpio. There's also a very wide sextile between Pluto-Mars I chopped off configuring the orbs. Composite Venus is in Scorpio conjunct Jupiter and MC.

- The male energy being hard to materialize I can definitely see being an issue between us. His Natal Sun is almost completely unaspected in our synastry except for a wide 8 degree conjunction to my moon and some loose generational aspects. His natal mars is extremely active, but with squares except to a tight trine to my mars-NN conjunction (which is awesome considering the square and conjunction with other guys just made me angry). Composite Chiron semi-sextiles his Sun exact but that's it. Composite Sun, on the other hand, conjuncts his moon 1 degree.

- He is actually very expressive and not evasive at all. I just don't particularly enjoy his courting style? At least that is what I am gathering so far. And he hasn't brung any mommy issues into our connection thus far. We recently aired surface grievances I am ASSUMING are linked to the passing of his mother based on the context.

- Moon square Uranus/Neptune aren't comfortable aspects to have at all, natal or composite. And in this case, I have both. So the uncertainty and fantasizing is there for sure. No argument there.

- His natal Sun/Moon 12H fits his elusive love style I would say. Elusive is a better word to describe his actions. For example, our last conversation might end on a good note.. he'll go missing for a few days.. but within those 1-3 days, he'll make sure to interact with my posts so it's not like he's ignoring me lol.


- He very well could be involved with other women which is not an issue considering we're both single and haven't committed to each other yet. & this might not even go anywhere, but who knows.

We're both past our Saturn returns so there's some support there regarding those Saturn aspects. At least they aren't squares! Haha.

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