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LoadedPistil
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posted April 15, 2014 07:46 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for LoadedPistil     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Yesterday, a friend of mine called me in horrible pain. She asked me if she was pregnant. Instead of running to the tarot like always, I tried my hand at Horary. (Tea takes too long )

My reading is manifesting as we speak.
I'd like to see what you all think before I share my prediction and the outcome.

A bunch of us have been trying our hand at Horary and I thought it would be nice for us to share charts, outcomes and tips as a means of learning and experience.

Thanks in advance!!

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posted April 15, 2014 09:05 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for littlecloud     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I know almost zip to none about horary but all I can say is that no she is not, or no longer is pregnant. If anything it was a miscarriage.

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posted April 15, 2014 09:06 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for LoadedPistil     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by littlecloud:
I know almost zip to none about horary but all I can say is that no she is not, or no longer is pregnant. If anything it was a miscarriage.

Close!! Can you point out the supporting aspects?

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posted April 15, 2014 09:34 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for hannaramaa     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Sun and Saturn are making a weak aspect to each other, for one.

The next thing I saw was Sun opposition Moon.

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posted April 15, 2014 09:37 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for LoadedPistil     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by hannaramaa:
Sun and Saturn are making a weak aspect to each other, for one.

The next thing I saw was Sun opposition Moon.



Why Saturn?

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posted April 15, 2014 11:06 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for littlecloud     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Your friend's significator is Mercury, which is conjunct Uranus and opposite the moon. The position of the moon is always an indicator of children or at least on of the main indicators looked at in a natal. The moon is in her house in poor aspects and I believe a barren sign. 5th house, children, is ruled by Jupiter which is in the 12th house. While the Venus trine is a nice aspect there's too much negative. The 12th indicates a hidden quality. Furthermore mars is a part of this t-square, opposite Uranus. Both are malefic planets.

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posted April 15, 2014 11:20 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for hannaramaa     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Her friends signification would be the Sun because the ASC is in Leo. But I got it wrong, I'm so used to asking about other people its habit to look at the 7th house. So, never mind about Sun and Saturn.

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posted April 15, 2014 11:30 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for littlecloud     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
eh...I don't know too much about Horary, I took friend to mean the 3rd house.

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posted April 15, 2014 11:50 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for hannaramaa     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hmm, I don't know for sure now that you mention it! I looked at it like since LP was asking for her friend that she's looking at it as if the friend was asking herself. But your way makes sense too since she is indeed asking about a friend.

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posted April 16, 2014 12:17 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for EmpressMendez     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Her friend would be her 11th house ruler

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posted April 16, 2014 12:22 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for littlecloud     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Oh **** Empress is right. But both 11 and 3rd H are ruled by Mercury.

Anywho, that's how I arrived at my conclusion.

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posted April 16, 2014 12:25 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for EmpressMendez     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Oh **** Empress is right. But both 11 and 3rd H are ruled by Mercury.

Anywho, that's how I arrived at my conclusion.


Yea I agree with it

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posted April 16, 2014 01:01 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for LoadedPistil     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Interesting. I didn't do any if that. The question is the ascendant Sun. The quested represented by 5th house ruler Jupiter. Co-significator is Moon. Sun and Jupiter are not applying aspect. Look at Moon and Jupiter separating. 7th house ruler Saturn(the father) is also applying aspect to Jupiter. A clear sign that Jupiter is translating energy from Saturn, Mars and Moon. She is pregnant. Mars is conjunct Moon and I suspect male energy. No need to fish for the significator when the conjunction is there screaming the answer. The "end of the matter" is represented by the 4th house down from the 5th House ruler, which is STILL Jupiter. Absolute confirmation she is pregnant. However, Mars is in detriment and in separating conjunction to Moon. "No baby will come" was my exact phrasing. The pregnancy is ectopic. She was given methotrexate and painkillers and sent home. Mars is applying to Jupiter, Saturn is applying to jupiter, but the moon separates from Mars and Jupiter.

Just looking at Sun/Moon and Jupiter would have yielded a "no" -incorrect.
I told her she was pregnant, but no baby would come.

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posted April 16, 2014 02:26 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for littlecloud     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
That makes sense too.

How is the father taking it?

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posted April 16, 2014 03:57 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for LoadedPistil     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I don't think she's gonna tell him. She found everything out all in 1 day. They just had a child 4 mos ago. She had Jupiter in 5th. She'll have another

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posted April 16, 2014 07:48 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for littlecloud     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Oh yea, totally. She's a baby making machine with that placement.

She should try to make sure not to get pregnant for at least a year. Otherwise she runs the risk of malnutrition in both children and herself.

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posted April 16, 2014 07:50 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for LoadedPistil     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
She's taking care of that!

I wonder what's wrong with my Jupiter in 7th. I think it's broken

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posted April 16, 2014 07:53 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for littlecloud     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Not pills! They'll mess up her breast milk!

As for your Jupiter, idk..mine is in a sucky position too, don't worry.

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posted April 16, 2014 10:03 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for LoadedPistil     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
7th house is a great place! I think mine is broken

She's not breast feeding. Any hormone will affect then flow of breast milk, though.

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posted April 16, 2014 10:08 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for littlecloud     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
But breast milk is so healthy! Why not?

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posted April 16, 2014 10:10 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for LoadedPistil     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Doesn't produce enough and the baby is Sagittarius. She takes it personal

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LoadedPistil, I have a very similar chart as far as significators and applications go, and am stumped if this is a yes or no! Would you be able to take a look and give your opinion of it? The question isn't mine, but it is the same (is she pregnant?) and with chart read with Sun ASC to represent her..
I can exchange a card reading if you can help! Thanks.

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posted May 31, 2014 11:12 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for LoadedPistil     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
If you're not asking for yourself, sun Asc cannot represent her. Who is she to you? Unless she asked you.

If you're trying to be nosy, she can't be sun

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posted May 31, 2014 11:58 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for KayEvans     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by LoadedPistil:
If you're not asking for yourself, sun Asc cannot represent her. Who is she to you? Unless she asked you.

If you're trying to be nosy, she can't be sun


Lol! Yes, she did ask me. She's a friend from work.

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posted May 31, 2014 12:25 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for LoadedPistil     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
They want to be pregnant. Can't get no closer than a conjunction. No matter how you read the chart, she wants to be pregnant. I say if she isn't pregnant, she will be very soon.

Take sun as her. No aspect, but moon and 5th house Jupiter apply conj and apply mutually to the 7th house Saturn in retrograde 8°. Aspect perfects within the sign and before Saturn direct.

Take her as Saturn. (You as sun makes her 7th). Her 5th Mercury is in 5th in Cancer. Applying square to the man Mars 9°

8/9 mos sounds like a recipe for biscuits. As moon leaves the sign, it applies square to Venus. That's good. Seems like they're trying to be pregnant. What's the point of this?

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