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LeeLoo2014
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posted June 24, 2014 10:36 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for LeeLoo2014     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I'd like a reading with explanations, if possible. Maybe I can learn a bit of horary myself, for my friends' growing number of questions

I'm not experienced with horary, I hope we cast the chart right.

My friend asked what are the feelings of Mr. X (I take it he is Mercury??) for her?

Thank you!

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Leoeve
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posted June 24, 2014 01:02 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Leoeve     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hello

I'm sorry but the chart is not readable, Saturn is in the 1st house!

Tell her to meditate on it a bit and that she can ask the question again later!

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LeeLoo2014
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posted June 24, 2014 01:03 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for LeeLoo2014     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
OK, thanks

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LeeLoo2014
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posted June 24, 2014 01:35 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for LeeLoo2014     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
We reposted the chart, thank you!

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Cuteleo85
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posted June 24, 2014 03:03 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Cuteleo85     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I'm a newbie, but I'll try: she's jupiter in 7th, he's mercury and the sun in 7th. She's more into him than he is into her, and he seems a little into himself too (full of himself, etc.). Don't think he thinks much of her. Also, she has pluto in first, which I heard means she can be vulnerable and/or become isolated. Jupiter is exalted in cancer though.

Also, first chart had saturn in 1st, some people don't read those charts, others say it's bad news for whoever is asking the question or can mean delays.

I really hope I'm wrong:-(

I'm sure someone with more experience will jump in;-)

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Kimberly14
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posted June 24, 2014 03:40 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Kimberly14     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I agree with cuteleo85.
The querent is jupiter exalted cancer so she really likes him. But since jupiter is in 7th house, she has to go to him. Mercury is in its own sign,he is happy where he is and likes her so far. They probably dont know each other that well yet since sign is gemini. He wont pursue her, she'll have to do the work.

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LeeLoo2014
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posted June 25, 2014 05:05 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for LeeLoo2014     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Thank you!

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LeeLoo2014
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posted June 25, 2014 05:14 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for LeeLoo2014     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
What about the Sun to Pluto connection, and Venus (5th ruler) conjunct Moon and Juno. Do they mean anything?


You said he doesn't think of her because Mercury is in 7th, although moving towards 6th?

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LeeLoo2014
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posted June 25, 2014 08:08 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for LeeLoo2014     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
EDIT: that's a bit antagonistic, I checked with my friend and he is pursuing her quite ardently. So what else could Mercury on the 7th cusp mean? thanks!


Also, does Mercury and Moon/Venus mutually applying to each other means anything?

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Cuteleo85
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posted June 25, 2014 12:02 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Cuteleo85     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Any chance you can post the grid with all aspects? Sorry I just like to have them in from of me.

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Dancing Maenad
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posted June 25, 2014 12:05 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Dancing Maenad     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Wait, are you asking, or is she? You said "we".. if you asked together and it was your idea to make it a horary, then you are the querent and she is 11H ruler and changes things completely.

Who's idea was to raise a horary?

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LeeLoo2014
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posted June 25, 2014 12:08 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for LeeLoo2014     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hi, DM

No, she's the one who asked, I just cast the charts for her. She's the querent, I guess?


You are right, it was my idea


Completely, really?

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LeeLoo2014
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posted June 25, 2014 12:19 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for LeeLoo2014     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Cuteleo85:
Any chance you can post the grid with all aspects? Sorry I just like to have them in from of me.

Here are the aspects:

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Cuteleo85
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posted June 25, 2014 03:09 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Cuteleo85     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Again, I could be wrong here, but if you chose to do the horary chart and not her, and she's the 11th house (his 5th) then she's mars. Don't see any aspects between mars and mercury or sun and mars. She's mars in libra so detriment; he's mercury in gemini, but retro and conjct the sun ( I know it's diff sign, but to me it's still combust). Don't see any reception, unless I'm missing something. Not even sure we can count her as the moon since you asked and not her, but even if we did there isn't much to go with (they're both in gemini, but that's it) Many people don't use juno in horary, but if they do it's normally a question about marriage. Outer planets are not vital either they're placed in a particular position or you're just using them to get little details.

Honestly, and I could be totally wrong, I don't see it happening or a connection. If she were jupiter there are a couple of challenging aspects, but again if you asked and not her...you're jupiter.

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LeeLoo2014
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posted June 25, 2014 03:19 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for LeeLoo2014     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Well, I know little about horary, but I guess he's definitely Sun and Mercury. Can a 7 degree conjunction still be considered combust?

I also wonder: if Sun's dispositor is the Moon, can't we say the Moon tells more about him?

Also, Pluto and the Pluto connection are totally excluded?

Sorry for all the questions, trying to understand more haha

We were together, she asked the question, I cast the chart.

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Dancing Maenad
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posted June 25, 2014 03:24 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Dancing Maenad     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by LeeLoo2014:
Hi, DM

No, she's the one who asked, I just cast the charts for her. She's the querent, I guess?


You are right, it was my idea


Completely, really?


Okay yeah, if she asked then she is the querent. It makes more sense like that, but I have to say due to the confusion even though the chart is valid, I am having troubles interpreting it. I do agree with Cuteleo that it doesn't seem to get off the ground soon from what I can tell. :/ As for the question in itself, I think he might be jealous of her or resentful about something.

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LeeLoo2014
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posted June 25, 2014 03:29 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for LeeLoo2014     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
OK, thank you everyone! I understand the chart doesn't tell much, maybe the moment was confusing in itself, so if she wants to re-ask, I'll tell her to do it one more time, maybe alone so she can concentrate better.

DM< you might be right about the jealousy thing...he's a bit possessive and seems potentially clingy, from her descriptions. It's a new relationship.

Thanks again.

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Dancing Maenad
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posted June 25, 2014 03:38 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Dancing Maenad     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Np. They are sort of applying for a semisextile but usually minor aspects are not considered, but an aspect is an aspect and means something happens. He's a good guy overall btw, has essential and accidental dignity, even though he's Rxing right now.

She should ask again if she wants to know where this is going because the chart answers what it is asked and I think the lack of detail we can derive from it is due to that. She asked about feelings and the chart answers through reception.

Pluto is disregarded if the question asked is about an action, it doesn't influence matters - however, if the question demands a descriptive answer like in this case, then yeah he can color things pretty - or obsessively, as may be the case.

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LeeLoo2014
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posted June 25, 2014 03:42 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for LeeLoo2014     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Oh, thank you, Maenad Maybe the guy's feelings aren't "crystallized" yet lol...I'm glad to hear he has the potential to be a good guy, at least I can tell her that haha

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