posted July 10, 2014 04:10 AM            

Who will win?

Let's discover!

Team Colours:

ASC team - Capricorn (Black, Indigo Dark Shades, Brown, Blue/Violet or Red.) & Scorpio (Black, Murky Red, Brown or Purple.)
DSC team - Cancer (Silver, White, Green, Blue, Grey or Tan.) & Scorpio (Black, Murky Red, Brown or Purple.).

Brazil are the home team, so are likely to play in Yellow top, Blue shorts etc. So Netherlands likely won;t play in Orange, they'll play in dark blue.

ASC team - Holland?
DSC team - Brazil?

Game Duration:

The ASC and DSC are in Cardinal signs.
The MC and IC are in Cardinal signs.
The Moon is in a Cardinal sign.
The ASC ruler is Saturn in a Fixed sign.
The DSC ruler is Moon, but we take the dispositor of the Moon, so Saturn again in a Fixed sign.

Cardinal - 5pts
Fixed - 2pts
Mutable - 0pts

This means:
Either the game will finish in 90 minutes OR go all the way to Penalties!

Early degrees of the ASC, DSC, MC and IC suggest the game is short and very quick (Cardinal), but seeing as the chart moves as the game goes on (ASC moves 1 degree every 4 minutes), so if the game isn't already won by around the 70th minute; there is a chance of Penalties.

Why?

Because the Moon is almost heading into Aquarius (fixed sign) and the Moon will be VOC too. Also the angles will rotate into Fixed signs, Fixed signs are long lasting.

Ultimate Potentials:

Moon in aspect to the POF or APOF - Moon aspects neither!
Moon with 2 degrees of any angle - False!
Ruler of 1st house on cusp of DSC? - False!
Ruler of 7th house on cusp of ASC? - False!
NN strengthens whatever house it is in, so it's in the 10th house - Good for the ASC team which is Holland!

Moon doesn't aspect 1st and 7th house rulers.
Moon squares Mars (Ruler of the 4th house) and is placed in the 10th house, conjunct NN; this means the Moon is aspecting 'Brazil's' SUCCESS in the game. Also with the ruler of the 4th in 10th house, the SUCCESS of the DSC team (Brazil) is in the hands of the ASC team (Holland).

Essential Dignities:

ASC ruler(Saturn): 0 (or -5 depending if Saturn in Scorpio is considered Peregrine)
DSC ruler(Saturn): 3

Accidental Dignities:

ASC ruler(Saturn): -6
DSC ruler(Saturn): -1

posted July 10, 2014 12:28 PM            

In the chart for yesterday's game I thought Netherlands were DSC because of the Sun's presence in the 7th house and I was sure they will wear orange. I didn't get, though, how Cap Asc with Pluto on Asc and Sat Rx in Scorpio could represent Argentina, until I saw they were mourning Alfredo Di Stefano, and it made sense.

Again, I am tempted to look at DSC as Netherlands for the same reasons.

In either way, having POF in the 7th, as well as the big benefic, is a huge factor in favor of the DSC team, whomever they may be. They look like the winners to me.

posted July 10, 2014 12:54 PM            

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Originally posted by Dancing Maenad:
Thanks for sharing and explaining, Sven!

In the chart for yesterday's game I thought Netherlands were DSC because of the Sun's presence in the 7th house and I was sure they will wear orange. I didn't get, though, how Cap Asc with Pluto on Asc and Sat Rx in Scorpio could represent Argentina, until I saw they were mourning Alfredo Di Stefano, and it made sense.

Again, I am tempted to look at DSC as Netherlands for the same reasons.

In either way, having POF in the 7th, as well as the big benefic, is a huge factor in favor of the DSC team, whomever they may be. They look like the winners to me.

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No worries, Dancing!

That's actually quite a good analogy, Sun representing Leo, so the colour Orange! Perfect again with Alfredo Di Stefano, Pluto conjunct ASC indicates Extreme or Intensity! Argentina did have dark shades on the shorts and socks too!

DSC team could be Holland (time to have another look), I wasn't 100% sure of which team to assign to which, So just threw all of the information out there to make a good deduction.

POF is conjunct the DSC by 5'02" But i think the POF moves faster than the ASC/DSC does, so they are going to slowly get away from each other.

DSC team to win? possibly!

posted July 10, 2014 01:13 PM            

(besides I truly think Holland will beat them, no doubt about it, they are waaaay better)

Lol we should make a chart for the final too! We have different angles because it is scheduled earlier (Sag-Gem). Do you want to post it or should I?

posted July 10, 2014 03:39 PM            

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Originally posted by Dancing Maenad:
Ha! Yes! That could be it, Sven, the mourning over their humiliation! ASC is Brazil and DSC is Netherlands!

(besides I truly think Holland will beat them, no doubt about it, they are waaaay better)

Lol we should make a chart for the final too! We have different angles because it is scheduled earlier (Sag-Gem). Do you want to post it or should I?

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Excellent! But remember we could all be wrong haha, just need to make sure we get the team allocations to the ASC/DSC correct when they actually play!

Holland to win!

Did you know you can see the timings of the goals too, Dancing? Or when a goal potential occurs?

let's make a chart for the final! I'll post it!

posted July 13, 2014 03:06 AM            

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Originally posted by Dancing Maenad:
It looks that at least for this chart we were right. This makes me think colors shouldn't always be relied on when assessing ASC/DSC teams. Brazil was surely mourning and it affected their game further. POF was in the 7th widely conj DSC and Netherlands had chance on their hand. There were some decisions that were clearly against Brazil, they should've been given one penalty but they weren't.

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Yes, we got it right!
Both teams had the chance to get penalties (Chiron, i believe). If you notice, Saturn and Chiron trine each other by less than 2 degrees, meaning Saturn (ruler of 1st and 7th) could receive a penalty at anytime! (Both teams could receive a penalty, that is!)