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Twirl
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posted July 15, 2014 12:34 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Twirl     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hi,

I'm trying to release someone out of my life (who always keeps popping in and/or I let him of course We do have a close saturn conjunct moon btw.
Anyway, so I thought to ask: will we end up together (relationship)?

Horary I find intriguing, but can't really read it
I'm not sure what rules Saggitarius now? Normally jupiter but what planet is it horary? The Moon? If yes, then it would be 'no' since it's seperating from mercury, actually applying saturn (someone else?) in 8-something.

He is mercury & applying to venus (not my significator I guess?) So that's 6 days, weeks or months, correct?
Also the ASC seems too early to tell, is that correct?

What about the planets in the 7th? Is that of impact at all since the question is about 1 on one relationships?

I can't add much more, but I'll happily pull an oracle card message for you in return if you wish.

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tgem
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posted July 15, 2014 12:41 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for tgem     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hi Twirl,
The first thing I noticed about his chart is the early ASC @ 2 degrees. This is considered a stricture in the chart in that it means it is too early to determine the final outcome. I suggested waiting a bit, meditating on it and then cast another chart. Ultimately you want the ASC to be greater than 4 degrees and less than 26 degrees. Hope this helps

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posted July 15, 2014 12:44 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Twirl     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by tgem:
Hi Twirl,
The first thing I noticed about his chart is the early ASC @ 2 degrees. This is considered a stricture in the chart in that it means it is too early to determine the final outcome. I suggested waiting a bit, meditating on it and then cast another chart. Ultimately you want the ASC to be greater than 4 degrees and less than 26 degrees. Hope this helps

Hi Tgem!

Thank you! This is the guy from chart you helped me with a few months ago btw!
Okay, shall I wait till it comes to me (wanting to pull another one?)
Would you like an oracle card, like the one with the goddesses before? I also have lovely new healing cards if you wish. I'll then post a thread on personal readings.

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posted July 15, 2014 04:23 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for filleaspirant     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I agree with @tgem, but I consider a readable chart when the Asc is over 3º and before 27º. You might want to use Regiomontanus instead of Placidus.

Moon's last aspect before it moves out of sign will be a square to Venus. Not conducive to a positive answer in a relationship chart.

Still, try asking at another time

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posted July 15, 2014 04:42 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Twirl     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by filleaspirant:
I agree with @tgem, but I consider a readable chart when the Asc is over 3º and before 27º. You might want to use Regiomontanus instead of Placidus.

Moon's last aspect before it moves out of sign will be a square to Venus. Not conducive to a positive answer in a relationship chart.

Still, try asking at another time


Hey Fille

Thanks! I tried the other system, still not 3 degrees.
Is anything what I wrote above true or doesn't it make any horary sense?

I also wondered if that Neptune & Chiron conjjnct the moon would say anything about me (working in that atmosphere) or the relationship?

It would be best if the answer of this chart is 'no' actually.

Would you like an oracle reading?
Thanks

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posted July 15, 2014 05:20 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for filleaspirant     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hi

I would say things have to develop a bit further for you to have a clear answer, Twirl. Just a bit more, as the Asc is very close to 3º.

You're Sagittarius, represented by Jupiter, yes. He's Mercury, as Gemini rules the other person. No aspect between significators means no, usually.

I'd say he has already another lady in his life. As Venus rules his 5th house.

Moon is both your co-significator as the story behind the answer. Conjunct Neptune, I'd say things were clouded, idealized between the two of you (as it's a separating aspect). Conjuncting Chiron, would mean that he's come back to your life is to heal any wounds left in the past.

Honestly, all signs point to a no, but you should really ask again at another time. To get a clearer answer out of this.

Sure, I'd love an oracle card reading, thanks! Can you take a look into what's coming up in my love life in the next 3 months?

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posted July 15, 2014 06:11 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Twirl     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Thanks
And, okay, was not sure if Jupiter was used.

I will read in the morning. It's late here. It's healing cards, not really predictive.
Not sure if there's another, I wasn't under the impression. Either way it's broken off anyway, so it looks like that's really it. Only was busy with it a third of my life

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posted July 15, 2014 07:04 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for filleaspirant     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Take your time, no rush

If they're healing cards, can I ask for a healing message from them? Whatever comes up is good for me!

It's an applying conjunction. Don't think they're together together now, but it looks like they will.

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posted July 16, 2014 02:33 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Twirl     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Its in the PR

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posted July 16, 2014 10:05 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for tgem     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Twirl:
Hi Tgem!

Thank you! This is the guy from chart you helped me with a few months ago btw!
Okay, shall I wait till it comes to me (wanting to pull another one?)
Would you like an oracle card, like the one with the goddesses before? I also have lovely new healing cards if you wish. I'll then post a thread on personal readings.


Yep, looks like we're on the same page with this one..give it some time.

I'd love a healing card thank you!
I'll hit you up in PR as well..

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posted July 16, 2014 01:06 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Twirl     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Can you believe I just asked it again and now it's a 1 degree saggi ASC!
Okay, clear sign I will have to wait.

PS: Mars is 1 applying to ASC. So perhaps there's contact awaiting in one something that will give a clear chart

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posted July 20, 2014 04:57 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Twirl     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hi

So I pulled the chart again since things has calmed emotion wise, clearly deciding I certainly don't want it back. Something I already knew & decided ages ago.

I think the "no" may be shown in the chart. Appreciate all you see

I'm now Virgo, perhaps showings practical outlook on it. And Virgo can be quite content on her own & busy with her stuff.
Edited: I confused the rulers. He is Jupiter, is he?

I have an exact trine with Neptune, yet seperating. Illusion seems to clear up.

Oh crap, does the moon in the 29th degree mean anything?
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posted July 20, 2014 09:26 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for tgem     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Ok now this is VERY interesting! Moon in late degrees can give a high probability of being void but you see the moon is at 29'59...this means the situation is going to change. I don't in this case see the moon being void as it makes and applying sextile to venus and an applying square to jupiter (his sig.). However, jupiter is combust which is not a positive sign as the sun prevents jupiter from taking any action....

I almost want to say the universe is telling you to hold off..not giving you a definitive answer yet but I'd really like to get a second opinion on this one!

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posted July 20, 2014 09:31 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Twirl     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by tgem:
Ok now this is VERY interesting! Moon in late degrees can give a high probability of being void but you see the moon is at 29'59...this means the situation is going to change. I don't in this case see the moon being void as it makes and applying sextile to venus and an applying square to jupiter (his sig.). However, jupiter is combust which is not a positive sign as the sun prevents jupiter from taking any action....

I almost want to say the universe is telling you to hold off..not giving you a definitive answer yet but I'd really like to get a second opinion on this one!


Hey TGem, thank you!
If it was void, it was also unreadable, right?
Does this mean it's still no definite answer with that degree?

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posted July 20, 2014 08:13 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for tgem     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Actually I'm going to be completely honest with you and say I don't know. I'd really like a second opinion from one of the mods- definitely someone more experienced in horary than I am as I don't see this as a definite yes or no.

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posted July 21, 2014 01:51 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Twirl     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by tgem:
Actually I'm going to be completely honest with you and say I don't know. I'd really like a second opinion from one of the mods- definitely someone more experienced in horary than I am as I don't see this as a definite yes or no.

Thanks Maybe Fille will have a look later.
Interesting the charts keep showing up like that. I'll keep it at an undefined one

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posted July 21, 2014 04:08 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ceridwen     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
The Moon is as void of course as can be.

Twirl,

you have to work on your timing, girl!


VOC Moon usually means either the chart is unreadable, or there is nothing to be said, as either everything is already in place, or everything is going to change anyway.

Better ask later again.

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Twirl
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posted July 21, 2014 04:20 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Twirl     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Ceridwen:
The Moon is as void of course as can be.

Twirl,

you have to work on your timing, girl!


VOC Moon usually means either the chart is unreadable, or there is nothing to be said, as either everything is already in place, or everything is going to change anyway.

Better ask later again.


Oh :-/ Lol. Well, that's chart nr.3 that can be dismissed then. I'll just assume everything is in place then
Or perhaps it will change
Thanks Ceri!

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posted July 21, 2014 04:38 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for filleaspirant     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
What Ceri said.

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posted July 21, 2014 08:41 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for tgem     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Oh man...thx Ceri and Fille for the help. Sorry Twirl, wish we could have gotten a clearer answer for you.

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posted July 22, 2014 02:57 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for appleberry     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
You should post a Regiomontanus chart instead. (You change the house system to Regiomontanus when you 'add new data' in the extended chart selection.

Right now I would read you as Jupiter and you are at 29*50 which means you are about to undergo significant change... but the AC might change if you change the house system, so who knows if Jupiter is even you...

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posted July 22, 2014 03:57 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Twirl     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by appleberry:
You should post a Regiomontanus chart instead. (You change the house system to Regiomontanus when you 'add new data' in the extended chart selection.

Right now I would read you as Jupiter and you are at 29*50 which means you are about to undergo significant change... but the AC might change if you change the house system, so who knows if Jupiter is even you...


Hi

Thank you. That's very interesting. I did that as Fille suggested it earlier, but it didn't change much. I was still Jupiter & still didn't reach a '3'-ASC.

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posted July 27, 2014 03:18 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Twirl     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Update: He did just contact me again. Think I may just let it pass.

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