posted August 09, 2014 02:43 PM            

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posted August 11, 2014 01:48 AM            

My impression is that you have not met yet and you know this already. He is applying to you partile but it seems like he would be in a relationship at the time you will meet, which might prevent the union at first.

posted August 11, 2014 02:02 AM            

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Originally posted by Dancing Maenad:
Hi, Hanna!

My impression is that you have not met yet and you know this already. He is applying to you partile but it seems like he would be in a relationship at the time you will meet, which might prevent the union at first.

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I actually thought I met him already even if nothing was happening at the moment, but thanks! Actually I've had tarot readings that sort of suggest this too so you must be onto something there.

posted August 11, 2014 02:06 AM            

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Originally posted by Dancing Maenad:
Hi, Hanna!

My impression is that you have not met yet and you know this already. He is applying to you partile but it seems like he would be in a relationship at the time you will meet, which might prevent the union at first.

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posted August 11, 2014 02:58 PM            

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Originally posted by hannaramaa:
I think it can still be read, its just at the querent's discretion of whether or not to take the answer to heart since, like you said and I mentioned in my original post, the degrees are so late.

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You have to understand horary.

The horary chart is nothing without the ascendant. Without the ascendant, we can't get any answer out. It's a waste of time. Because the ascendant is what matters the most and makes the rest of the chart (houses). When the ascendant itself is not properly placed, it means the whole chart can't be read. It's common sense.

Sorry if it sounded rude.

Anyways. I can't change your mind.

xx

posted August 11, 2014 03:31 PM            

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Originally posted by hannaramaa:
Also I'm glad you saw the thread. Now I have technical questions because I was so sure I was reading it correctly before! You said applying partile...are squares partile? I also didn't see any Sun / Venus aspects, so I wondered where you saw his other relationship. It's probably more than one step I'm guessing but I'm just trying to understand.

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Yes, sorry, I've been a bit preoccupied in the last week or so, so I haven't been reading here as much. Yes, squares can be partile, all it takes is that they are at the same degree. Exact aspects, as we call them in modern astrology. We have two partile aspects of interest: Sun sq Saturn (you and him) and Sun conj Mercury (which I took as him attached to someone else). As you can see Mercury, being faster, will square you first, before Sun gets to you - Mercury frustrates/comes between you. Also, because the aspect is a square it's another indication that it will not go so smooth. There will be some tension/fighting involved. Maybe if the aspects were not partile I would have said that the meeting is not in the cards for now, but I think it is either due to happen very soon or has happened already in the very recent past - if that is what you felt, though I stick (still) to thinking if it's applying it hasn't happened yet.
There is another reason I said he is with someone or will be at the time of the meeting. Moon's last aspect, already in application, is an opposition to Venus. Two women, adversaries - that was my impression.

But if he's who you'll marry, then he will separate from her (their conjunction is already separating anyway). But I think that is further in the future, this horary gives no hints on that.

posted August 11, 2014 03:46 PM            

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Originally posted by MiaPluto:
You have to understand horary.

The horary chart is nothing without the ascendant. Without the ascendant, we can't get any answer out. It's a waste of time. Because the ascendant is what matters the most and makes the rest of the chart (houses). When the ascendant itself is not properly placed, it means the whole chart can't be read. It's common sense.

Sorry if it sounded rude.

Anyways. I can't change your mind.

xx

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Mia, I sometimes choose to read "unreadable" charts. There are a few horarists here and we all read very differently - and that is ok, diversity is a GOOD thing.

In this case, my impression is that the meeting is imminent and cannot be prevented and that is why the Asc is late, or like Hanna is feeling, that it just happened (partile aspects are weird, lol).

posted August 11, 2014 06:35 PM            

I used to deem unreadable such charts in past, now I don't do so anymore.

Not so long ago I lost my car keys and after looking all over the house for them I decided to cast an horary chart. The first thing I noticed was ascendant over 29º degrees and I instantly thought "Oh no, I'm never going to find them".
Then I looked at the house and sign of the keys significator and instinctively I opened a drawer in my closet and there they were. It took me like 10 seconds.
So yes, the late ascendant can definitely mean the matter is resolving itself in a matter of a blink of an eye!

posted August 11, 2014 08:41 PM            

As far as reading horary charts, I won't read them if the Moon is void of course. But late degrees (and depending on the question, we'll use mine for example) means it's already set in motion so what's the harm? At least there's still a definitive answer it just means nothing is left to be discovered, changed, done, etc. If it was an open ended question (like what's he going to think of me), then I personally wouldn't read a late degree chart because to me you, the querent, could change depending on where your ASC is now, etc. I know it sounds the same but in my mind it makes sense.

Re: DM - So I met this Aries guy in April and we had a falling out in June, but while we were "talking" I just kept thinking he was going to get me pregnant. The weird thing is I didn't even realize all my Aries planets fall in his 5th house - children. Plus my two Scorpio friends thought the same thing when none of us discussed it 'til later. My feelings are usually hit or miss so this could be one of them, but I'm throwing it out there. We were never together so he had free reign and so did I, I think I know who he was seeing but never got confirmation.

posted August 13, 2014 01:13 PM            

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Originally posted by Leoeve:
Hey guys, just popping in because I've something to say regarding that late ascendat.

I used to deem unreadable such charts in past, now I don't do so anymore.

Not so long ago I lost my car keys and after looking all over the house for them I decided to cast an horary chart. The first thing I noticed was ascendant over 29º degrees and I instantly thought "Oh no, I'm never going to find them".
Then I looked at the house and sign of the keys significator and instinctively I opened a drawer in my closet and there they were. It took me like 10 seconds.
So yes, the late ascendant can definitely mean the matter is resolving itself in a matter of a blink of an eye!

I'm sorry, I know nobody asked for my opinion but I wanted to share this with you

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Thanks for sharing that, Leoeve! I appreciate it!