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hannaramaa
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posted October 05, 2014 04:45 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for hannaramaa     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I asked if someone I know (literally, someone I know, that's not an alias) is pregnant? You know how I've been raving like a lunatic about finding something out after the fact, some kind of news that's sort of upsetting but gives me closure or something? Well I wonder if it's news of someone getting pregnant. I drew Scythe and Child during a Lenormand reading, and I've been thinking about pregnancy a lot when I've never specifically been the "GOTTA HAVE A BABY NOW" type. I know the ASC is late so nothing can change, I haven't had a chance to look at the moon yet but I will now and add my thoughts.

Here I'm kind of looking to see if someone is pregnant, but also if any man I knew GOT someone pregnant. Can we tell that?

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posted October 05, 2014 05:35 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for tgem     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
So I totally just did this exact same thing..asked if he was going to get her pregnant or if she is pregnant! Both of my charts came out "YES"....Too funny! What house are you considering for his sig? 7th, 5th, 11th?

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posted October 05, 2014 05:44 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for hannaramaa     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
See I don't know! I actually have THREE guys in mind who I liked and had to let go of. One was long distance, one I actually dated so he is definitely the 7th, right? and one was basically a friend... so two of them are 11th house and one is the 7th, I would say.

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posted October 05, 2014 06:24 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for hannaramaa     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Can I use this chart for multiple yes or no questions I have? Because I never have just one sole question I need answered, like ever.

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posted October 05, 2014 06:37 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for tgem     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Ok let's start with the guy you dated: he's the moon in a fertile sign and in accidental dignity. His 5th house ruler is in essential and accidental dignity in his first. That means he has babies strongly on his mind. There is no aspect between jupiter and the moon but if you make the sun his co-sig you see jupiter makes an applying sextile to the sun. You also see the sun conjunct venus in libra. This shows he's in a relationship with someone and she is in her rulership and a fertile sign. Looking to the 4th house from his 5th as to the end of the matter, you see it is again jupiter which is in his 1st. Also the moon is making an applying quincunx to venus...both on fertile signs. This confirms a pregnancy to me. However, what I don't like is that Jupiter (the baby) is in a barren sign and makes an applying square to Saturn (a malific.) No baby. His 5th house of children is intercepted and moon is conjunct neptune. Also venus is making an applying opposition to Uranus. She is either pregnant and will miscarry or she had a miscarriage. Either way, no baby in the end. The late ASC confirms nothing to come. Last aspect the moon makes before leaving is an applying trine to Saturn (a malific) with Saturn being in his 4th house of endings.

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posted October 05, 2014 06:43 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for tgem     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Can I use this chart for multiple yes or no questions I have? Because I never have just one sole question I need answered, like ever.

I think you can, yes.

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posted October 05, 2014 06:48 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for hannaramaa     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Ok let's start with the guy you dated: he's the moon in a fertile sign and in accidental dignity. His 5th house ruler is in essential and accidental dignity in his first. That means he has babies strongly on his mind. There is no aspect between jupiter and the moon but if you make the sun his co-sig you see jupiter makes an applying sextile to the sun. You also see the sun conjunct venus in libra. This shows he's in a relationship with someone and she is in her rulership and a fertile sign. Looking to the 4th house from his 5th as to the end of the matter, you see it is again jupiter which is in his 1st. Also the moon is making an applying quincunx to venus...both on fertile signs. This confirms a pregnancy to me. However, what I don't like is that Jupiter (the baby) is in a barren sign and makes an applying square to Saturn (a malific.) No baby. His 5th house of children is intercepted and moon is conjunct neptune. Also venus is making an applying opposition to Uranus. She is either pregnant and will miscarry or she had a miscarriage. Either way, no baby in the end. The late ASC confirms nothing to come. Last aspect the moon makes before leaving is an applying trine to Saturn (a malific) with Saturn being in his 4th house of endings.

Ew to all of that. Why do I still care after months and when I didn't really like him in the first place I have a feeling he is still with the girl that he "got back at me" with, but that after I blew up about it his mom made him keep it on the dL or he did, idk. He's only 20, and I can't imagine him keeping the baby but he was always scared of getting me pregnant when we were together so maybe he's just always anxious about that.

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posted October 05, 2014 06:53 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for hannaramaa     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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I think you can, yes.

Okay if the guy I dated is in a relationship I wouldn't know. He's not friends with the girl I mentioned, on Facebook, and she's listed as single - but who can go by social media really. At least it makes me feel better than hasn't been going on all along this time when I thought it was done with. I just like knowing, you know?

OKAY what I've been wondering is about my boss - can we see what his relationship to me is in this chart? I suppose we'd use 10th house. I'll look at it too but I'm writing it here for efficiency.

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posted October 05, 2014 06:55 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for tgem     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Funny you say that. So after me and my ex-husband split and were going through the divorce, he started dating someone else to get back at me and make me jealous. Interestingly, the two horaries I cast were asking if he would get her pregnant and they said yes. Him and I are not even technically divorced yet and he was the same way..always nervous about getting me accidentally pregnant. Another horary showed me she was as well. Funny how you and I are going through similiar things..I'd be interested to see what tarot says about it. Would you mind pulling? Question being: is KC pregnant with J's baby? If so, is J hiding it from me?

I understand about still caring...he's part of your past. If you want I can look at your friend as well (11th house?)

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posted October 05, 2014 06:59 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for hannaramaa     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I'm Saturn in his 10th house, but Saturn and Mars aren't aspecting at all so phooey.

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posted October 05, 2014 07:01 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for hannaramaa     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Funny you say that. So after me and my ex-husband split and were going through the divorce, he started dating someone else to get back at me and make me jealous. Interestingly, the two horaries I cast were asking if he would get her pregnant and they said yes. Him and I are not even technically divorced yet and he was the same way..always nervous about getting me accidentally pregnant. Another horary showed me she was as well. Funny how you and I are going through similiar things..I'd be interested to see what tarot says about it. Would you mind pulling? Question being: is KC pregnant with J's baby? If so, is J hiding it from me?

I understand about still caring...he's part of your past. If you want I can look at your friend as well (11th house?)


Yeah I'd appreciate that, and that IS weird, mainly because I'm also friends with a girl in New York (just recently started bonding) and found me and her are so much alike in relationships! I guess little pieces of my soul family are coming through to say hi!

I have my Lenormand cards, but those are even better because it's more precise. So yes let me pull here.

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posted October 05, 2014 07:20 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for tgem     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Okay if the guy I dated is in a relationship I wouldn't know. He's not friends with the girl I mentioned, on Facebook, and she's listed as single - but who can go by social media really. At least it makes me feel better than hasn't been going on all along this time when I thought it was done with. I just like knowing, you know?

OKAY what I've been wondering is about my boss - can we see what his relationship to me is in this chart? I suppose we'd use 10th house. I'll look at it too but I'm writing it here for efficiency.


Ok remember though the ASC is late. You are Saturn perigrine (I know..the P word again) but in strong accidental dignity in your own 10th. He is mars, peregrine as well in his second. He falls in your 11th house of hopes, wishes and gains while you fall in his 1st. You are on his mind a lot! With him being in your 11th..do I suspect a little crush going on here? What interesting is that he is in your rulership so he is strongly receiving you while your are receiving him as well by term and face. You both think very highly of eachother, that's for sure . Is there a parallel or contra-parallel between mars and Saturn or moon and mars?

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posted October 05, 2014 07:26 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for hannaramaa     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Garden + Dog + Child + Snake + Moon

Surprisingly, no, I don't think KC is pregnant with J's baby. I know that seems oppositional when we drew the Child card, but combined with the Dog it basically means a "puppy", etc. J is a lot of things but according to this spread he wouldn't keep something like that from you if it was happening. Child + Snake equals someone who is difficult to deal with, yes, and The Moon capping it off seems to just denote the mystery around the situation and Snake + Moon I would think is mind games.

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posted October 05, 2014 07:29 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for hannaramaa     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Ok remember though the ASC is late. You are Saturn perigrine (I know..the P word again) but in strong accidental dignity in your own 10th. He is mars, peregrine as well in his second. He falls in your 11th house of hopes, wishes and gains while you fall in his 1st. You are on his mind a lot! With him being in your 11th..do I suspect a little crush going on here? What interesting is that he is in your rulership so he is strongly receiving you while your are receiving him as well by term and face. You both think very highly of eachother, that's for sure . Is there a parallel or contra-parallel between mars and Saturn or moon and mars?

Oh my god, he's on MY mind a lot!!! I'm always thinking of him and just yesterday I was wondering "Man, I wonder if he thinks of me at all?" He's a weird boss.

All these technical terms... do you mind giving me a brief summary of what each means? Like accidental dignity - wha? and parallel and contra-parallel? Give me a couple minutes to google all that lol! I don't know. But yes I love making him laugh! I have a little crush on him but it's nothing like "OMG I WANNA BE WITH YOU." more friendly like "We can have so much fun together!! Best friends!"

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posted October 05, 2014 07:37 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for tgem     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Oh my god, he's on MY mind a lot!!! I'm always thinking of him and just yesterday I was wondering "Man, I wonder if he thinks of me at all?" He's a weird boss.

All these technical terms... do you mind giving me a brief summary of what each means? Like accidental dignity - wha? and parallel and contra-parallel? Give me a couple minutes to google all that lol! I don't know. But yes I love making him laugh! I have a little crush on him but it's nothing like "OMG I WANNA BE WITH YOU." more friendly like "We can have so much fun together!! Best friends!"


Here is a link that will help you with dignities: http://mithras93.tripod.com/lessons/lesson7/index.html

Parallel aspect is when you look at two planet's declinations: for instance say the sun's declination is 17' 1 N and the moon's declination is 17'48 N. the sun and moon are both parallel within 1 degree. If the moon was 17'48 S then you would say they are contraparallel by 1 degree. Parallel's work like conjunctions and contraparallels work like oppositions.

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posted October 05, 2014 07:39 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for tgem     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Garden + Dog + Child + Snake + Moon

Surprisingly, no, I don't think KC is pregnant with J's baby. I know that seems oppositional when we drew the Child card, but combined with the Dog it basically means a "puppy", etc. J is a lot of things but according to this spread he wouldn't keep something like that from you if it was happening. Child + Snake equals someone who is difficult to deal with, yes, and The Moon capping it off seems to just denote the mystery around the situation and Snake + Moon I would think is mind games.


So basically he's just playing mind games with me??!! Ugh...he sucks. Can you tell if J and KC are still together?

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posted October 05, 2014 07:47 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for hannaramaa     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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So basically he's just playing mind games with me??!! Ugh...he sucks. Can you tell if J and KC are still together?

Sure!

Garden + Cross + Stars

They are, I think, but they are together out of faith more than a solid foundation. Basically "Livin' on a prayer."

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posted October 05, 2014 07:49 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for tgem     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Sure!

Garden + Cross + Stars

They are, I think, but they are together out of faith more than a solid foundation. Basically "Livin' on a prayer."


Ok need some clarification on that one...confused

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posted October 05, 2014 08:34 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for hannaramaa     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
The Garden is a celebratory card, something I would relate to the 4 of Wands (if you're into Tarot at all - that's a kind of party / couple card.) The Cross by itself is symbolic of church, forgiveness, unity (in a sense), sins, etc. Stars relates to the Tarot card The Star, the hoper, wisher, dreamer card. So The Cross + Star to me means they are together but the foundation that they used to have is gone and now they are together because they believe they should be, they believe they belong together. Their beliefs and that faith that it might work is keeping them together but if you think about it that's not very solid because it's intangible.

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posted October 05, 2014 09:04 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for tgem     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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The Garden is a celebratory card, something I would relate to the 4 of Wands (if you're into Tarot at all - that's a kind of party / couple card.) The Cross by itself is symbolic of church, forgiveness, unity (in a sense), sins, etc. Stars relates to the Tarot card The Star, the hoper, wisher, dreamer card. So The Cross + Star to me means they are together but the foundation that they used to have is gone and now they are together because they believe they should be, they believe they belong together. Their beliefs and that faith that it might work is keeping them together but if you think about it that's not very solid because it's intangible.

Ok thanks for the clarification. Ya know it's interesting because when you said they're staying together because they have to..like they belong together..living on the hope that things might work out. To me that would jive with him getting her pregnant by accident..the bloom has fallen off the Rose but because of the pregnancy and morals ( of course morals being relative) they feel they belong together...

BUT the pregnancy card says "no" and I trust your judgement the cards you pulled, however, were very interesting..thx

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posted October 05, 2014 11:22 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for hannaramaa     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Ok thanks for the clarification. Ya know it's interesting because when you said they're staying together because they have to..like they belong together..living on the hope that things might work out. To me that would jive with him getting her pregnant by accident..the bloom has fallen off the Rose but because of the pregnancy and morals ( of course morals being relative) they feel they belong together...

BUT the pregnancy card says "no" and I trust your judgement the cards you pulled, however, were very interesting..thx


You're welcome, anytime. One last inquiry...from the chart, can you tell if my boss knows I have a crush on him or not?

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posted October 06, 2014 07:40 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for tgem     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Well the late ASC would indicate "you kinda already know the answer." So what does your gut tell you? Since there's no aspect between mars and Saturn I'm not sure there's a cut and dry answer to that one.

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posted October 07, 2014 03:03 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for astra7     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
No wonder you got late degree. It means you are not serious about this question.

There is always someone who is pregnant somewhere in the world.

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posted October 07, 2014 09:04 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for hannaramaa     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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No wonder you got late degree. It means you are not serious about this question.

There is always someone who is pregnant somewhere in the world.


Well, I kinda WAS serious. I really thought that was going to be the news I was going to get.

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posted October 08, 2014 07:52 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for astra7     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
You may have been but the question isn't properly formed and comes across as not serious though.

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