posted October 17, 2014 10:48 AM            

She asks: "Does he have another girlfriend/love interest (or does he still love me)?"

* Regiomontanus. Question asked by the querent.

Thank you!

posted October 17, 2014 12:10 PM            

But all kinds of more unpleasant crossroads as well Funny thing is, I too was assisted by someone for a rite of passage or a crossroad, every time

I'll question her about that ex, with diplomacy lol. Thank you, DM

I'm gonna tell all these lovebirds to learn English and request horaries by themselves; the worst part is to explain the "news".

How do you guys hang on with horaries? It looks a bit stressful to cast horaries, for oneself and others Fascinating, though.

posted October 17, 2014 12:17 PM            

I didn't quite get this though. "She" is my acquaintance? and what is the Sun's meaning here? and being combust? I dind't quite get the "rebound" thing. Sorry, Mercury Rx lol

Also, do you get this feeling from the chart that he will be the one contacting the querent (the girl)?

posted October 17, 2014 12:30 PM            

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Originally posted by LeeLoo2014:
"He is also combust.. and will apply to Sun if she rejects him. "

I didn't quite get this though. "She" is my acquaintance? and what is the Sun's meaning here? and being combust? I dind't quite get the "rebound" thing. Sorry, Mercury Rx lol

Also, do you get this feeling from the chart that he will be the one contacting the querent (the girl)?

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Ok, take a look at Venus.. you see Mercury applies to Venus because Mercury is faster and Rx. Mercury is the ex, IMO. I think they are together because they are partile in his house, side by side, like a couple. After they conjunct, Venus applies to sextile your friend (Mars), because Mars is at 23 Sag. After that, Venus will apply to conjunct Sun. Technically, if Mars (your friend) accepts him, it should be a prohibition for the conjunction to the Sun, because that is how horary works.. the aspect that happens first gets the prize. In my experience, it is not always the case, but the aspects we apply to suggest intention - as you can see he is in orb with all 3, he doesn't want to be alone, wants to rebound fast, whether with your friend or someone else. He IS in Libra, so he wants love-love-love! And sadly has where to get it from, because both Mercury and Sun are under his rulership (in love with him or in a very strong "like" if love is too strong of a word.. they're whipped, lol. You get the idea).
That's my take on it.

posted October 17, 2014 12:40 PM            

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Originally posted by HappyLoewe:
May I just ask about the Moon and Saturn and they aspects that they make to the rest of the chart or are they not important in this scenario? Thanks HL

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I look at the Moon as the situation overall, from the querent's point of view. The separating aspects give you a clue about what has happened in the past, the applying ones about what is going to. Moon is only separating from a quincunx to Pluto, and this to me means she was jealous/obsessed/anxious at some point in the past, perhaps after the break-up. The next aspect Moon makes is the trine to Uranus, which indicates something will take her by surprise, something unexpected comes to her, perhaps changes her mind about him - I would go with the last part because Uranus is in her house, coloring her state of mind. Then Moon conjunct Jupiter, which *might* suggest a reunion or a happy time. Then applies to Mercury, Venus and Sun, then squares Saturn. The square to Saturn might turn out to be a rejection on her part, a quarrel or a separation. But just like the first aspect between significators gets the prize, so does the last aspect Moon makes.. which suggests the outcome. That is a sextile to the Sun, as Sun is the furthest in a signs that Moon can apply with a Ptolemaic aspect. It could be that Sun gets Venus, or it could be a new man for LeeLoo's friend. There are too many aspects in application and too many people with too much free will involved to say for sure. Horary gives you an idea about the trend of action.. but you can change it, I have done so in the past in one or two of my horaries, so it is not set in stone.

posted October 17, 2014 12:48 PM            

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Originally posted by Dancing Maenad:
I look at the Moon as the situation overall, from the querent's point of view. The separating aspects give you a clue about what has happened in the past, the applying ones about what is going to. Moon is only separating from a quincunx to Pluto, and this to me means she was jealous/obsessed/anxious at some point in the past, perhaps after the break-up. The next aspect Moon makes is the trine to Uranus, which indicates something will take her by surprise, something unexpected comes to her, perhaps changes her mind about him - I would go with the last part because Uranus is in her house, coloring her state of mind. Then Moon conjunct Jupiter, which *might* suggest a reunion or a happy time. Then applies to Mercury, Venus and Sun, then squares Saturn. The square to Saturn might turn out to be a rejection on her part, a quarrel or a separation. But just like the first aspect between significators gets the prize, so does the last aspect Moon makes.. which suggests the outcome. That is a sextile to the Sun, as Sun is the furthest in a signs that Moon can apply with a Ptolemaic aspect. It could be that Sun gets Venus, or it could be a new man for LeeLoo's friend. There are too many aspects in application and too many people with too much free will involved to say for sure. Horary gives you an idea about the trend of action.. but you can change it, I have done so in the past in one or two of my horaries, so it is not set in stone.

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posted October 17, 2014 01:08 PM            

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Originally posted by Dancing Maenad:
Ok, take a look at Venus.. you see Mercury applies to Venus because Mercury is faster and Rx. Mercury is the ex, IMO. I think they are together because they are partile in his house, side by side, like a couple. After they conjunct, Venus applies to sextile your friend (Mars), because Mars is at 23 Sag. After that, Venus will apply to conjunct Sun. Technically, if Mars (your friend) accepts him, it should be a prohibition for the conjunction to the Sun, because that is how horary works.. the aspect that happens first gets the prize. In my experience, it is not always the case, but the aspects we apply to suggest intention - as you can see he is in orb with all 3, he doesn't want to be alone, wants to rebound fast, whether with your friend or someone else. He IS in Libra, so he wants love-love-love! And sadly has where to get it from, because both Mercury and Sun are under his rulership (in love with him or in a very strong "like" if love is too strong of a word.. they're whipped, lol. You get the idea).
That's my take on it.

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All right, I see what you mean and I like how your mind works

I just wonder about something though: if the question is about a third person, and the quesited is in his 1st house, so to speak, (I understood this means he's more with himself, focused on himself?) do the planets there always have to be "another person" even if unrelated to his love houses? (5th, 7th or whatever). Speaking in general now, not about this case, but this question popped in my mind. Can't they be related to "matters" or "events" or other preoccupations he has by himself, being alone, for example Mercury ruling his 6th, his job/studies etc. How do you determine the planets in the quesited's house are not "him", but someone else? Just trying to understand.

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posted October 17, 2014 01:19 PM            

I don't view horary as fixed as most horarists do. I think of it as fluid and dynamic. So I give myself quite a bit of freedom when reading that some horarists would frown upon.

posted October 17, 2014 01:26 PM            

If anyone else wants to give their input, please do.