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Hera
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posted January 17, 2013 05:02 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Hera     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
For those who are into horary, this is one example of a YES chart, in my opinion of it, with several indications for it lol (Universe knew I needed that and that I'll probably look too).



The question was Should I stay on this path?. It's a love question. Background info: this Ram was getting impatient, puffing and huffing that it's too hard, too much waiting, too vague etc and chickened out. I know we sort of have a connection, though at present is invisible lol. It gets hard sometimes to hang in there. So I just wanted to ask whether I should really stick with it or cut my losses and move on emotionally.

First of, notice the Asc is *beyond* the first 3 degrees (barely, but still), so it is not invalid. Either way, I still interpret those, it is my personal choice. The question is not radical, the ruler of the hour was the Sun which doesn't agree with Libra. It only means I wasn't very serious about the question lol.


Moving on.. I am Venus in Cap separating from a conjunction to Pluto. While I don't see Pluto as a significator, it does give some clues to what has happened recently in my life - transformation, passion, obsession (teh good Plutonian stuff lol). I am actually peregrine by essential dignity (night chart, I am in Moon's triplicity not my own) but angular so have a lot of accidental dignity and power to act. My cosignificator is the Moon in Aries, also peregrine but with accidental dignity. So while let's say that nature may not have given me the best traits or the best body or I may not be doing awesomely in all fields of life, in this particular question I have ALL the power to act. And of course I do, I have my own free will! Makes sense, no? Yes, but there's more. I also make contact to HIM. hehe

He is Mars in Aqua in my 5th. Also peregrine! But succeedent, so has less power to act than me (not to mention that both my significators are faster - ball is in my court, next move seems to be mine).

The reception between us clearly suggests that I am smitten by him (Venus in his exaltation, Moon ruled by him and in his house), while he is somewhat interested but not to the same degree (Mars in Venus's term). Venus is placed in his turned 10th house (most visible house) which means he respects me, sees me as someone with authority, someone he looks up to. Flattered hehe.

Why did I say this is a 3 YES indicator chart? Well..

1. Venus applies to sextile Mars by antiscia (orb 1 deg). Antiscia is more subtle so as Venus I'll probably go about in an underhanded way, beat around the bush sort of thing. Like post something (secretly) for him on my FB page. Stuff like that. Not direct action, but subtle. It's something I'd probably do, yeah.

2. Moon applies to Mars without any interference. 'Nuff said.

3. Moon collects the light from Venus and passes it on to Mars. This is because Moon is separating from a square to Venus (collected its light) and now applies to Mars. Notice that in between these 2 aspects, Moon makes no other aspect (therefore not passing Venus's light to someone else before reaching Mars). Moon unites Venus and Mars. If Moon wasn't me, it would be a third party bringing us together.


Last but not least, something to reinforce the positivity of the answer was the "End of the matter". This is the 4th house from the house you asked about. In my case, I asked about the 7th, so the End of the matter is the 10th. Moon rules the 10th. Moon has immense power here. Moon does, Moon decides, Moon makes things or breaks things. In this chart, this Moon is very powerful. And look at what's located in the End of the matter's house.. the POF! At 15 deg Cancer it is exactly square Moon (means right now luck is not precisely on my side, power to act is not luck, unfortunately) but also ruled by Moon. Its placement in the 10th in the End of the matter suggests this will have a happy ending and that I (Moon) make my luck (Fortune).

I welcome your thoughts on this chart, if you want to share. Just wanted to post it here and discuss it a bit, I know there are a few Horary enthusiasts around.. soo.. Go ahead!

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AshSkye
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posted January 18, 2013 12:03 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for AshSkye     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
This is a godsend, I cast a horary earlier and it was the exact same chart as the one above (plus three degrees for the asc and mc)

You've answered my question, thankyou <3

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Hera
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posted January 18, 2013 12:22 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Hera     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
hehehe, glad to hear that Ash! Go you!!

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Astro keen
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posted January 18, 2013 12:32 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Astro keen     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Dear Hera, I have the exact same question as the one you posted and a similar situation. Could I please post the chart here (still to be made) and would you please take a look?

EDIT: I've got one. It is actually a similar pattern to yours except for house positions and Asc. Would you be able to say if the results are any different?

Firstly, do I have a Void of Course moon?


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posted January 18, 2013 03:02 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Astro keen     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Hera
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posted January 18, 2013 03:41 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Hera     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I don't mean for this thread to be about me giving readings. If that were my intention, I would have posted in Personal Readings. I made this thread to discuss horary technique and interpretation with those who are interested in doing so.


Astro keen, your chart is not similar to mine, just because it's a day difference in between. Chart is very different, significators are different, the whole interpretation is different. You didn't post your question, the formulation of your question is very important and it colors interpretations tremendously. I assume is also a love question but would not interpret without an explicit question.

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posted January 18, 2013 03:46 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Astro keen     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hera, If you wouldn't mind offering an interpretation on this one, it could help distinguish it from yours. However, just ignore it if it's inappropriate in this context. Apologies. I can remove from here and post in readings if you like.

The question was - Should I continue with J?

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Hera
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posted January 18, 2013 04:03 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Hera     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Sneaky lol. The charts are different, it's pretty obvious lol. But anyways, I am still learning myself, am in no way an expert. I give interpretations sometimes but when I feel like it which is not that often lol. I am still unrefined and too selfish to be a true reader.

That being said, in this chart the answer is a No, I'm afraid. You are Sun under his rulership but placed in his 12th house (hidden from his view). Your presence in his life is rather subtle even though I think you are somewhat in his proximity because he receives you by face. However, Sun and Saturn do not aspect. Moon is not VOC, it squares Sun and Mercury before leaving Aries. Moon also doesn't apply to him, but the reception between Moon and Saturn is perhaps the worst out there (mutual fall). All this points to No. Smaller hints: the POF, while being in the End of the matter like in the chart I posted, is intercepted here. Interception is not favorable in horary, makes the energy very difficult to come to pass, it is not that it's not present but it's like standing in a row and being skipped over. It has difficulty of coming into being. Also a minor hint was him (Saturn) squaring Asc/DC axis. It might mean something or not, but it jumped at me and my intuition felt that he is opposing your union somehow. He restricts it himself, resists it.

I am sorry I didn't have better news for you.

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posted January 18, 2013 04:11 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Astro keen     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Thanks a lot. You've been kind and helped to dissipate some of the confusion.

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Hera
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posted January 20, 2013 12:27 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Hera     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
You're welcome, Astro keen.

Update: the orb between Moon and Mars was 2-3 degrees and Moon being angular that meant hours or days until contact. The chart was made on Jan 17th, on Jan 19th I contacted him, he answered on the 20th. I have thought about contacting him but somehow didn't feel like it until then, but over the sudden got the urge to do it, like what the hell do I have to lose??

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Dancing Maenad
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posted October 26, 2014 02:19 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Dancing Maenad     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Bump for the move..

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posted October 26, 2014 08:36 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for lalalinda     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
moving to Horary and Event Astrology

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tgem
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posted October 26, 2014 09:05 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for tgem     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Thanks for posting - a good reference and learning tool

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Dancing Maenad
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posted October 26, 2014 04:59 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Dancing Maenad     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Well, as a little feedback (I'm the OP lol) - I changed course soon after I raised the chart. Completely eliminating myself from the situation and his life. Uranus on DC, eh.. POF was square Moon, it was clear that timing was not on my side, I could have bended over backwards, antiscia is not as strong as a direct aspect; collection of light is dependent on another person/event AND Moon could have been another woman. Which, actually DID happen. He hooked up with someone, I don't remember if I found out about her before or after I made the chart - it could have been before, he wasn't serious about her and I knew that. But their connection still put me off in the end and decided to just walk away. It does seem that he is instrumental for my soul growth though.. so there was some truth to the horary and my interpretation back then. But I decided to use my free will.. which is not in the chart (unless we consider Uranus - sudden change of course regarding this partnership). I think we would have been together, eventually. But I let him go.

Well, until now. lol 2 years later.

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posted October 31, 2014 07:54 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for LeeLoo2014     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Tgem and DM, I'm a little confused about reception. If I am in his exaltation, for example I'm Venus in Cap and he is Mars, I am the one "exalted" about him lol aka smitten or the other way around? It seems logical to me that he's the one exalted about me.

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posted October 31, 2014 04:37 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Dancing Maenad     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Jury is out on that one but that is the logic I personally follow. If I'm Venus in Cap but you're Saturn, who's ruling who? Same for exaltation. I'm in a sign that is exalted by you, then I am exalted by you too. Rules of the game..

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posted November 01, 2014 07:33 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for LeeLoo2014     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Interesting, thanks I have to think about it, you may be right.

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