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LostSoulRebecca
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posted November 18, 2014 05:14 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for LostSoulRebecca     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote

I asked whether we will be a couple or not.

Now this is how I was looking into this chart.

With Scorpio rising I would be a Pluto.

He could be Mars (ruler of 5th) or Mercury (ruler of 7th) – am I right?

Pluto is in aspect with bothy; sextile with Mercury and conjunct with Mars.

There is also Venus conjunct Saturn in chart (some said, this could have meaning in a horaray chart when there is question about romance).

I noticed, some LL members are looking for aspects between Venus and Jupiter; Venus is she and Jupiter is he…

I read that if ascendant is 27 to 29 degrees, the question is to late to be asked… the universe has already solved this question… UNLESS there is personal planet exactly conjunct the horary ascendant. Looking at this chart I think that since Sun and Venus conjunct the ascendant, this chart should be valid?

What do you think about this chart?

Is it valid to you?

If so, how would you interpret those aspects? As YES or as NO?

Thank you!

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LostSoulRebecca
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posted November 18, 2014 01:34 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for LostSoulRebecca     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Can someone - especially if with knowledge on separating/applying aspects - pretty please, check the chart?

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LostSoulRebecca
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posted November 19, 2014 06:35 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for LostSoulRebecca     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Friendly bump.

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tgem
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posted November 19, 2014 09:54 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for tgem     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
What is his relationship to you (how do you know him?)
Is he a crush, a friend, a co-worker?

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LoadedPistil
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posted November 19, 2014 01:20 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for LoadedPistil     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by LostSoulRebecca:

I asked whether we will be a couple or not.

Now this is how I was looking into this chart.

With Scorpio rising I would be a Pluto.

He could be Mars (ruler of 5th) or Mercury (ruler of 7th) – am I right?


Wrong as hell. You're Mars. He's Venus 7th ruler. We look to the 5th if we just wanna hit it and quit it.

quote:

There is also Venus conjunct Saturn in chart (some said, this could have meaning in a horaray chart when there is question about romance).



There in separate signs. You and your neighbor share a wall to your bedrooms. Doesn't mean you're sleeping together.
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I read that if ascendant is 27 to 29 degrees, the question is to late to be asked… the universe has already solved this question… UNLESS there is personal planet exactly conjunct the horary ascendant. Looking at this chart I think that since Sun and Venus conjunct the ascendant, this chart should be valid?

What do you think about this chart?

Is it valid to you?

If so, how would you interpret those aspects? As YES or as NO?

Thank you![/B]


First, you need to check the Planetary Hour. Asking with a late asc usually means the answer is already at present or you know the answer. IF the planetary hour matches the Asc by triplicity or humour, the chart can be considered valid enough to debate on a late asc.

You are Mars. He is Venus. There's no applying aspect, but you receive him by ruler as moon, there's mutual reception by triplicity, and he is Jalapeno grill in 1st.

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Tarot Readings | Etsy
Leo ♌️ Sun, (2nd House), Venus (3nd House)
Scorpio ♏ Moon,Mars,Saturn (5th House)
Cancer ♋ Rising
Svātī Nakshatra

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LostSoulRebecca
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posted November 19, 2014 04:43 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for LostSoulRebecca     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by tgem:
What is his relationship to you (how do you know him?)
Is he a crush, a friend, a co-worker?

A friend.

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LostSoulRebecca
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posted November 19, 2014 04:49 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for LostSoulRebecca     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by LoadedPistil:
Wrong as hell. You're Mars. He's Venus 7th ruler. We look to the 5th if we just wanna hit it and quit it.

Obviously I am just not learnin the right way... have to start all over again. Horary obivously is not for everyone... But thank you for your explanation.

quote:
Originally posted by LoadedPistil:
You are Mars. He is Venus. There's no applying aspect, but you receive him by ruler as moon, there's mutual reception by triplicity, and he is Jalapeno grill in 1st.

Sorry, I just have to ask this one question: what does this 'Japalapeno grill' means?

Thanks.


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LoadedPistil
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posted November 19, 2014 05:15 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for LoadedPistil     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
He's in your "personal space"

Sorry. American slang stuff. Translation: All up in your grill.

Forget any planet farther away from the sun than Saturn when choosing significators.
My
Very
Extravagant
Mother
Just
Served

That's it.

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Tarot Readings | Etsy
Leo ♌️ Sun, (2nd House), Venus (3nd House)
Scorpio ♏ Moon,Mars,Saturn (5th House)
Cancer ♋ Rising
Svātī Nakshatra

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LostSoulRebecca
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posted November 19, 2014 05:28 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for LostSoulRebecca     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by LoadedPistil:
He's in your "personal space"

Sorry. American slang stuff. Translation: All up in your grill.

Forget any planet farther away from the sun than Saturn when choosing significators.
My
Very
Extravagant
Mother
Just
Served

That's it.


Thank you!

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elixir
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posted November 20, 2014 11:32 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for elixir     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Venus is conjunct the ascendant so its a matter of special importance, and not invalid.

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LostSoulRebecca
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posted November 20, 2014 01:07 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for LostSoulRebecca     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by elixir:
Venus is conjunct the ascendant so its a matter of special importance, and not invalid.

May I ask you, how do you mean 'special importance'? As that this question has special importance for a person, that asked this question?

Thank you!

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appleberry
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posted November 21, 2014 12:53 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for appleberry     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
It is late but sometimes those charts work out for me... they just mean that it's going to happen soon. Otherwise they say the opportunity just passed.

He's Venus/Mercury, you're Mars/Jupiter. I'm using houses 1 and 7 because your question is about relationship, not sex (which would be house 5).

His main significator is in your house and conjunct the AC. For me that always works out as a yes. Plus there are some other applying connections...

If the chart is valid, I'd say yes. But, the fact that he's in your house doesn't always say that it will happen, just that the other person wants it.

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LostSoulRebecca
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posted November 21, 2014 01:54 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for LostSoulRebecca     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by appleberry:
It is late but sometimes those charts work out for me... they just mean that it's going to happen soon. Otherwise they say the opportunity just passed.

He's Venus/Mercury, you're Mars/Jupiter. I'm using houses 1 and 7 because your question is about relationship, not sex (which would be house 5).

His main significator is in your house and conjunct the AC. For me that always works out as a yes. Plus there are some other applying connections...

If the chart is valid, I'd say yes. But, the fact that he's in your house doesn't always say that it will happen, just that the other person wants it.


Thank you sooo very much for that detailed explanation! It helped me a lot!!

Again, thank you!

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